The general WHAT IN THE WORLD is going on in Canada?

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ITCC_Andrew

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Right. To explain: I have no idea.



  1. Anti-Canadian separatists just came to power in the province of Québec
  2. A man from Québec went to the "after party" of the political party that won and shot two people, killing one
  3. Upon being arrested, the man shouted, (in French) "Les anglais se sont levés!" meaning "The English are awakened!"


:dunce: The things going on in this country... :ouch: As a person who prefers German... I feel trapped in the middle of quite a fiasco.



What's your opinion on this? All of what happened? What's your take?



And, if you're not in the mood for talk of the formation of a new country (Québec wants its sovereignty,) what about the job situation? Are you Canadian? Are you employed? Are you unemployed? Can you find work?



Finally, and this is only important to me, would I need to contact the government to "legally" own and operate a business, if I were to charge money to clean cars for a living? (I'm looking for an informed answer on this, if I can find one.)
 
I'm Canadian. The PQ won a minority election, so they won't be able to just open up another referendum whenever they want. That being said, it's a little disheartening to see that 1 in 3 Quebecers actually agree with the PQ.
 
Noob616
I'm Canadian. The PQ won a minority election, so they won't be able to just open up another referendum whenever they want. That being said, it's a little disheartening to see that 1 in 3 Quebecers actually agree with the PQ.
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I agree, but, what could possibly have motivated this recent murder? That, especially, is hard to understand.


If Québec became a sovereign country, I could finally say that I've been to a French country, without so many bloody technicalities. Then, after a week, they'd realize what Canada offers them, and would come crying back, like a puppy who runs away from home comes back when the night falls.
 
I can't really see the usefulness of Quebec going and becoming its own country.
 
Blitz24
I can't really see the usefulness of Quebec going and becoming its own country.
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They believe that the English are bad for the "survival" of their culture and their language.


I've heard stories that the youth are saying things like "ça c'est aussi malade, bro!" (means "That's so sick, bro.") and other things, when the original French way to say it would be "ça m'interesse beaucoup!" ("That interests me a lot!")



So, effectively, the adults are being chased off by the colloquialisms of the 18-20 somethings. :indiff:



Well, I've not heard any other reasons. They talk about whether or not they would benefit, and what they'd do differently, but never discuss the problems with being Canadian, nor even tell us what we could do better.
 
MrMelancholy15
They believe that the English are bad for the "survival" of their culture and their language.


I've heard stories that the youth are saying things like "ça c'est aussi malade, bro!" (means "That's so sick, bro.") and other things, when the original French way to say it would be "ça m'interesse beaucoup!" ("That interests me a lot!")



So, effectively, the adults are being chased off by the colloquialisms of the 18-20 somethings. :indiff:



Well, I've not heard any other reasons. They talk about whether or not they would benefit, and what they'd do differently, but never discuss the problems with being Canadian, nor even tell us what we could do better.
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Sounds like they just hate being Canadian, no real other reason.
 
If there's something I learned from Socials 11, it is that all throughout Canada's history all Quebec did was moan and complain.

I don't get it, if you hate Canada so much, go back to France.

Also, I am not employed.:indiff:
 
Antonisbob
If there's something I learned from Socials 11, it is that all throughout Canada's history all Quebec did was moan and complain.

I don't get it, if you hate Canada so much, go back to France.
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Bah, France and Québec are entirely different.

Also, I am not employed.:indiff:
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Damn, everyone's got no job around here. :( Good luck!
 
Hi,

If you think this recent situation is bad, you should do some research on the FLQ (Front de Liberation du Quebec).

I'm a mid 60's kid, and this separatist thing has been going on for my lifetime and way beyond that. In my opinion, it's just another excuse for yet another cash grab from our government.

As for the ill-timed murder, I believe it will proven to be just another crack-pot gone off his rocker.

Have a good one
 
Millions of dollars was a bit redundant. The loss of maple syrup is a tragedy.

Seriously now; Who would buy maple syrup, if not Canadians?
 
Not Canadian, not really aware of the separatist sentiment in Quebec. But I read this article (a few months old) the other day about students and it really hit home. Especially this part,

The students' courage and creativity in the face of such brutality has lit a fire under Quebec. Their achievement has been to begin to clarify for a broad swath of society that a tuition hike is not a matter of isolated accounting, but the goal of a neoliberal austerity agenda the world over. Forcing students to pay more for education is part of a transfer of wealth from the poor and middle-class to the rich – as with privatization and the state's withdrawal from service-provision, tax breaks for corporations and deep cuts to social programs.

The fault-lines of the struggle over education – dividing those who preach it must be a commodity purchased by "consumers" for self-advancement, and those who would protect it as a right funded by the state for the collective good – has thus sparked a fundamental debate about the entire society's future.
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I think it applies to Universities everywhere, especially where tuition rates keep going up, while income stagnates and there is no guarantee of a career after getting a degree. In this economy, the Universities are the biggest winners as out-of-work or looking-for-work professionals keep coming in for higher education.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/02/quebec-student-protest-canada
 
JediRage
*Mention of protests against extremely low tuition*
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Québec has the lowest tuition rates in Canada. :scared: They complain too much. :indiff: Their provincial government (the one that they want to lead them as a country) is unwilling to lower the tuition. It has nothing to do with the English or the separatism. It's purely Québecois.
 
MrMelancholy15
Québec has the lowest tuition rates in Canada. :scared: They complain too much. :indiff: Their provincial government (the one that they want to lead them as a country) is unwilling to lower the tuition. It has nothing to do with the English or the separatism. It's purely Québecois.
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I know its got nothing to do with the separatism (or maybe it does, I really don't know). But I found the symbolism interesting for people who spend so much on education just to find a job.

And it's not often you see hundreds of thousands of students protesting and the crackdown on the protests says it all really.
 
Do Quebec separatists really think that being independent will go along fine and dandy?

Because for one, I really doubt Canada and Uncle Sam will recognize them.

And two, I also really doubt the UK will either.
 
sumbrownkid
Do Quebec separatists really think that being independent will go along fine and dandy?

Because for one, I really doubt Canada and Uncle Sam will recognize them.

And two, I also really doubt the UK will either.
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Well, Canada's an accepting country, generally.


As for the U.S., you guys were the first to accept the existence of Israel.


As for the U.K., they won't be that important to Québec.
 
MrMelancholy15
Well, Canada's an accepting country, generally.


As for the U.S., you guys were the first to accept the existence of Israel.


As for the U.K., they won't be that important to Québec.
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The US Israel connection is a lot deeper than the Quebec US one will ever be.

Come on let's get real here bro.:)
 
sumbrownkid
The US Israel connection is a lot deeper than the Quebec US one will ever be.

Come on let's get real here bro.:)
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Exactly. I doubt Québec can do it. Especially right now, when support for separatism is dwindling.


At one point, the vote came down to 0.01% difference, between Québec being sovereign/not being sovereign. They've lost most of the interest.
 
In America we've learned that you can only shrug it off so many times before you shoot up a school, eh. Maybe these people were just tired of playing nice Canadian.
 
Never seen Quebec first hand, but I don't see what the big deal is. Maybe 200 years ago they were seriously oppressed by Anglophone Canadians, but certainly doesn't seem to be the case now. Seriously, look around. The majority of us are so mixed with British, French, German, Russian and other ethnicities it doesn't even matter. Not to mention the newer generations with Asian and Middle Eastern backgrounds, and of course the Natives. The British could have driven the French population (or wiped them out) from Canada in the 18th Century if they had really wanted.

Even if the majority of Quebec was separatist, I don't think Canada would let them separate. A separation would completely screw up trade with the Eastern Provinces, and it wouldn't do Quebec much good either, to be frank.

I think it's great we have such a multicultural nation, and to expect the English culture to stay away from and disappear in Quebec, is a bit silly in my opinion. :lol:
 
Grand Prix
I think it's great we have such a multicultural nation, and to expect the English culture to stay away from and disappear in Quebec, is a bit silly in my opinion. :lol:
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Sums up my viewpoints on the matter. Therefore, I shall continue to learn Russian and German, and only speak French with attractive French girls. I've decided, you see.
 
Noob616
I'm Canadian. The PQ won a minority election, so they won't be able to just open up another referendum whenever they want. That being said, it's a little disheartening to see that 1 in 3 Quebecers actually agree with the PQ.
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Don't forget that back in 1995, there was nearly a 50:50 split between those who wanted to separate and those who didn't.

I remember reading somewhere that if Quebec were to separate, we would be in a situation like that in the UK, with England, Scotland, Wales, and N. Ireland. Opinions on this?
 
MrMelancholy15
Sums up my viewpoints on the matter. Therefore, I shall continue to learn Russian and German, and only speak French with attractive French girls. I've decided, you see.
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I can't stand French so I've decided to learn German as well. I don't care much about Canadian politics - and frankly I don't care about the Quebec. They can do as they wish but it doesn't benefit them in anyway as far as trading goes...
 
Also, wollen Sie mit mir Deutsch in persönlichen Nachrichten sprechen, Herr Kücher?

Therefore, do you want to speak German with me in PMs, Sir Chef?


As for everything else, I agree... One question; if you don't follow politics in your own country, in whose country DO you follow politics?
 
MrMelancholy15
Right. To explain: I have no idea.



  1. Anti-Canadian separatists just came to power in the province of Québec
  2. A man from Québec went to the "after party" of the political party that won and shot two people, killing one
  3. Upon being arrested, the man shouted, (in French) "Les anglais se sont levés!" meaning "The English are awakened!"
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Quebecers were royally screwed regardless of who they chose.

A) A Liberal government under investigation over corruption who also caused the riots that threatened the Canadian GP a few months ago.
B) The old separatist party
C) A right-wing separatist party
D) A Socialist separatist party

Holding whoever won to a Minority was the best option. Quebec needs Canada more than what Canada needs Quebec, especially right now.


As far as Canada as a whole, we'll be back to normal in 2015 once Harper and the Cons loose in a landslide to the NDP.
 
As a British Columbian I have witnessed what the NDP can do to really screw up an economy. They bought useless crap that no one really wanted or needed (i.e., "fast ferries" to Vancouver Island that were only a bit faster and were in constant need of repair, before eventually being sold off again). Our economy was pretty much destroyed, and took a long time to recover from that. So you can see why they have struggled to get seats in BC provincial elections in the following years.

Not that the Liberals are much better, but they do at least understand how to use money instead of simply handing it out to whining school teachers (seriously, they work from 9am to 3pm, have a two months summer break and additional holdidays, and are already pretty well payed to begin with, they don't need better pay), and the homeless in Vancouver who pretty much just use it to buy drugs anyways. Sorry to be blunt, I'm just telling it like it is.

Trust me on this, you do not want the NDP to win a Federal Majority Government, :lol: just, no. :lol: Our Liberals and Conservatives are already pretty left in comparison to American parties to begin with, the last thing we need in this recession is some near-communists to 🤬 everything up. :D

Honestly, I would be surprised if they did win a majority. But I think they would need the Liberal and Conservative party leaders to be complete clowns in order for that to happen (Ok, that could be possible I admit, :lol:). Even then, I doubt the NDP would be re-elected after everyone sees what those crazy BC lumberjacks are talking about. :D


[/stupid rant] :D
 

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