The real reason why Iran is a threat to the U.S

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WOULD IRAN'S OIL PLAN TO KILL THE U.S. DOLLAR START ANOTHER WAR IN THE REGION?

On the 20th of this month, Iran will commit a far greater "offense" than what the toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein did in the fall of 2002 when he announced shifting Iraq’s oil exports to the euro.

Numerous analyst and U.S. officials have repeatedly stated that the Pentagon has prepared plans for a military strike against Iran, partially to force Iran scrap its nuclear activities and partially due to Iran’s decision to shift to the Euro which will have a devastating impact on the U.S. currency’s hegemony and the once strong economy.

Iran’s plan is to begin competing with New York's NYMEX and London's IPE with respect to international oil trades - using a euro-denominated international oil-trading mechanism. Which will, if the U.S. failed to scruple this plan, allow the euro establish a firm foothold in the international oil trade. And bearing in minds the U.S. debt levels, Iran's upcoming euro-based oil Bourse will be an obvious encroachment on U.S. dollar supremacy in global oil market

So in less than three weeks, we’ll see many countries buying and selling oil and gas not only for dollars but also for euros.

The new oil bourse, which will establish a new oil “marker” (oil pricing standard) based on Iranian crude, in open rivalry to the existing West Texas Intermediate, Norway Brent and UAE Dubai markers, all calculated in U.S. dollars, will provide a golden opportunity to countries and companies concerned about having to hold huge amounts of U.S. dollars to finance their oil transactions, stated an editorial on Arab News.

Worried about the huge deficits its economy already suffers, the U.S. knows, and is deeply alarmed by the danger Iran’s new oil bourse means, as it might result in the dollar losing its status as the world’s only reserve currency.

So to prevent the Euro from emerging as an alternative reserve currency, the U.S. government is determined to stop the Iranian experiment.

But some of the U.S. scenario-mongers would resort to a preemptive strike against Iran before it even opens the bourse, the Arab News editorial further states, adding that an alternative scenario could be pushing Israel do the dirty work of for Washington, launching a devastating air strike targeting the Islamic republic’s nuclear sites, recalling what happened with the former Iraqi leader.

A similar initiative taken by Saddam Hussein in 2002 resulted in the quagmire still going in Iraq up till this day, the March 2003 war, although, as analysts stated, no solid evidence had ever linked Hussein’s demand to be paid in euros for Iraq’s oil with the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

However, some analysts suggest that the Bush administration might not be planning to attack Iran to stop it from establishing its euro-based oil bourse which stands as a real challenge to the dollar, arguing that the current U.S. government doesn’t worry much about such things.

But in case Washington attacks Iran, whether directly or by having Israel doing it, Iran is definitely ready for a heavy retaliation.

Iran has promised a “crushing response” to any U.S. or Israeli attack. Ironically, Iran doesn’t have the nuclear weapons to scare off attackers, but it does have other options, with ground forces estimated at 800,000 personnel, as well as long-range missiles capable of hitting Israel and Europe.

Also much of the world’s oil supply is transported through the Strait of Hormuz, a narrow stretch of ocean which Iran borders to the north.

Moreover, attacking Iran will plant the seeds of tension in the already troubled Middle East nation, especially provoking the Shia Community in Iraq.

Source AlJazeera

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In simple words:

The reason the U.S. dollar is threatened is because high demand for the U.S. dollar and Treasury Bills exist because foreigners need dollars to purchase resources in the primary markets for commodities, specifically oil. Because the U.S. and England, its subsidiary/sponsor, have controlled the major markets and denominated them in dollars, large numbers of dollars have been required to purchase oil and other commodities.

If Iran establishes a successful foreign exchange system in euros, dollars will no longer be needed for international oil and presumably later commodities purchases, because these purchases could now be made in euros. These dollars would be repatriated into the U.S. economy causing massive inflation.

The Chinese and Japanese who have kept high dollar reserves and intervened in the free market for their own currencies in order to support the dollar system would likely watch their exports market dry up or face unimaginable levels of currency intervention to save the trade system they have erected. In any case, they would be unable to create enough yuan and yen to do so without going bankrupt themselves. At some point they will have to give up their heroic efforts to save their American trade empire. World could be facing a disastrous total global economic failure.

Americans will face massive hyperinflation, total economic collapse lead by housing and the stock market, which have been largely supported by inflows of these foreign dollars back into our banking system, allowing for the creation of the massive number of loans because of increased dollar reserves. Unemployment will skyrocket, and poverty will become endemic within a few years of the collapse due to foreclosures and layoffs.

To save their political futures, the Republican leadership and Neocons will possibly try to start a war with Iran if they can and seize their oil assets and destroy the idea of this market. If they don't, their political futures are nill. If they do, their political future is very likely also nil. In any case, the oil wars are about to begin in earnest it seems or perhaps some last minute negotiations can stave off disaster.

It is clear that we are in a very precarious situation at best, and the best diplomacy would be to negotiate with Iran, though they appear to be non negotiable about WMD or oil bourses. If no negotiations can succeed, it would appear that the given the current administration and the current political situation in Washington, combined with Wall Street and the vast oil industrial government machine complex, that war is unavoidable unless the people decide to change their way of life.

Source: Blogcritics


PS:
Venezuela is supporting Iran's plans
Now Iran and Venezuela have joined together to gain independence from the U.S. Dollar. Venezuela's president Chavez supports the opening of the Iran Oil Bourse on March 20, 2006. The Iran Oil Bourse will challenge U.S. dollar supremacy in global oil market transactions executed on the New York Mercantile Exchange and London's International Petroleum Exchange by creating the opportunity for countries to shift foreign-exchange holdings out of dollars and into euros or other currencies.
Iran And Venezuela are world's 4th and 5th biggest net oil exporting countries.

Lifted off another site. Discuss!
 
Are we seriously getting worked up about currency? Does anyone actually believe that the US economy is so weak that Iran could destroy (or even significantly harm) it by selling it's oil via a different currency??

Yawn.
 
Carl.
This should have been posted in the Iran thread... if it wasn't already there, that is. :)

Sorry looked for a thread about iran (didnt search though) and I didnt see it. I would have though the thread would be a hot topic at the moment.

I apologise.
 
danoff
...Does anyone actually believe that the US economy is so weak that Iran could destroy (or even significantly harm) it by selling it's oil via a different currency??

Yes, since its a phony house of cards, ready to be blown over at any time:

The numbers behind the lies

Economy In Crisis

Dispossessing America

SafeHaven Economic Newsletter

danoff

Might as well go back to sleep, since we can't do doodley squat about all this. The only question is how long the scam can continue to be run. God help us if those overworked currency printing presses break down...
 
I know nothing of economy, so I'll base my opinion on a very simple idea. United States currency definitely is the classiest looking money in the world. The intricate design, the history of it, the way it closely follows the original formula, all sorts of stuff. What other currency has so many names? What other currency has inspired so much greed and good, all at the same time? What other currency is the cause of so many important security advances? What other currency stands out in the world more? The Euro is very immature in comparison. It's the rookie, doesn't have any history, isn't fancy or famous, it just doesn't seem to have any emotional significance. I know I love my money because I'm American, but I bet if you went to the desert in Australia and waved a hundred in front of the Aboriginal people, they'd know what it is.
Even if the Euro is worth more or is more simple or is cheaper to produce or is more durable or is whatever, the U.S Dollar is just plain cool. Everyone knows it. It smells absolutely delicious, too. Mmmmmmm.....money.
 
danoff
You do like your doomsday prophecies don't you?...WTF? Do you believe any of this crap?...Pandering BS that assumes the reader is a complete idiot and will find all of this somehow new and novel.

Once again, I hope you're right. (I seem to say that a lot, don't I?)

Nonetheless, considering the budget deficits, trade deficits, foreign ownership, job exporting, BS unemployment figures, ever-increasing energy costs, and possible coming real estate bust, I just can't work up a warm and fuzzy feeling about the economic outlook.
 
Zardoz
Nonetheless, considering the budget deficits, trade deficits, foreign ownership, job exporting, BS unemployment figures, ever-increasing energy costs, and possible coming real estate bust, I just can't work up a warm and fuzzy feeling about the economic outlook.

Budget Deficits are constant. Sure they're bigger than usual, and that needs to stop - but I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over it. I don't think we've ever not run a deficit in the federal budget in the last 50 years (no there was no surplus during the Clinton years, it was projected based on some pretty rosey economic numbers). Trade deficits actually work in our favor, so I'm not going to bother with that one. Foreign ownership only implys that the US is a good investment - which is also fine with me. Job exporting can be both good and bad. It's good in the sense that Americans are abandoning jobs that don't give us the lifestyle we want and expect. It's bad because it's a sign that the government is putting too much of a burden on our employers. I'd call it a wash. Increasing energy costs is something to keep an eye on, but there are a lot of alternatives already so I'm not going to lose sleep over that either. The possibility of a real estate bust could be a big deal short term, but long term real estate prices have always gone up and I can't fathom why that would change (though I can fathom why it would continue).

I'd say the biggest long term and immediate threat is the one you didn't list - inflation. Inflation makes a lot of wealth suddenly dissapear and there's almost nothing we can do to stop it. It's a very dangerous thing and something that I think is starting to get out of hand (again). But we've suffered through greater periods of inflation and it won't be long before our leaders remember the economic reasons why inflation doesn't work.
 
keef
I know nothing of economy, so I'll base my opinion on a very simple idea. United States currency definitely is the classiest looking money in the world. The intricate design, the history of it, the way it closely follows the original formula, all sorts of stuff. What other currency has so many names? What other currency has inspired so much greed and good, all at the same time? What other currency is the cause of so many important security advances? What other currency stands out in the world more? The Euro is very immature in comparison. It's the rookie, doesn't have any history, isn't fancy or famous, it just doesn't seem to have any emotional significance. I know I love my money because I'm American, but I bet if you went to the desert in Australia and waved a hundred in front of the Aboriginal people, they'd know what it is.
Even if the Euro is worth more or is more simple or is cheaper to produce or is more durable or is whatever, the U.S Dollar is just plain cool. Everyone knows it. It smells absolutely delicious, too. Mmmmmmm.....money.

"What other" person could post such tripe. :rolleyes:
 
It wouldn't suprize me if this is the real reason. This way it also makes sense to me why Putin is supporting their cause for trying to build a nuclear plant when it is just to use for creating a source of energy.
 

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