Turbo's Elantra Sport: SOLD!

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My new grille is from the turbo car. :lol:

And that video is an embarrassment to the rest of us that drive a Koup. You should see all the hate going on in the facebook groups. Lots of people trying to get Matt from Smoking Tire to drive one with proper mods on it (and without the auto trans...) That kid made us look bad. :P

I can see why. :scared:
 
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Small update since I haven't posted anything since April.

Really nothing major to post about, car is coming up on it's 3rd oil change at 15,000 miles and I have had zero issues that needed dealership attention. I've been averaging around 34-35 mpg with a low of 33 and a high of 37. For what it is, it's a fairly quiet car though I do have plans to go through the whole car and seal up some things to make it a bit quieter. (this is how you know you are getting old :P) I think a better set of tires will help quite a bit as it's mainly road noise I'd like to get rid of. Wind noise is actually really good.

Haven't been able to do anything to it that I want since living alone doesn't really lend itself to having tons of spare cash to spend on mods. Though when it starts cooling down here I want to take the door panels off and just have a look around to see how I can improve on the quietness. I think my job in NVH is getting to me. :lol:
 
Spent some time today going through some of the interior panels of the car looking for possible areas that would "leak" sound into the car. Holes in the interior bodywork are a good source of unwanted noise.

Kia doesn't put any sound deadening material underneath the door panels, but they are sealed up tight as you can see below. No unnecessary holes anywhere.

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Even then, I was able to acquire some unwanted materials from work and put some in the doors like so:

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I also put some in the little cap behind the rear view mirrors, which were also sealed well from the factory.

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Also put some work into the A-pillars, both on the plastic panels (which already had some material in there) and sealing up the area between the body and the dashboard.

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I pulled off the lower kick panels and the door sills and poked around, but didn't find anything worth sealing up. No unnecessary holes to be found. I love how they went through the extra effort to even put some thin felt material on the back side of the metal clips, and on any areas of the door panel that would contact something and possibly create a rattle. 👍

There is simply no reason to make fun of the Koreans for their cars anymore, they simply are as very good at what they do. This car is just fine the way it is, I'm just experimenting to see just how good I can make it. :)

Edit: Forgot to post my impressions. :lol: To be honest, can't really tell on the short drive I went on afterwords. I'm not even close to being finished with adding materials, so I'll update after my next round of installs.
 
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It's amazing the lengths manufacturers now go to, to make cars refined, quiet etc. It's amazing how intricate those door panels are - take the panel off an older car and you're usually holding (at best) a slab of plastic with a bunch of felt wedged into the gaps.

Was thinking about this the other night - I'm almost disappointed sometimes when I get to drive a modern luxury car, because regular, affordable cars have made such massive progress in terms of build quality, refinement, NVH and so-on that there's no longer such a big gap to the expensive stuff like there used to be - particularly given many luxury cars are negatively affected by the big, wide, noise-producing tyres they now require.

Back in say, the early 90s there was a massive difference between something like a Ford Escort with a noisy CVH engine with a basic air filter, barely any sound damping material, poor panel fit etc and an S-class. Today, there's far, far less difference between something like the 3-cylinder Ecoboost Focus and a modern S-class. Even though the Merc has got better, the cheaper stuff has got better by an order of magnitude.
 
It's amazing the lengths manufacturers now go to, to make cars refined, quiet etc. It's amazing how intricate those door panels are - take the panel off an older car and you're usually holding (at best) a slab of plastic with a bunch of felt wedged into the gaps.

Was thinking about this the other night - I'm almost disappointed sometimes when I get to drive a modern luxury car, because regular, affordable cars have made such massive progress in terms of build quality, refinement, NVH and so-on that there's no longer such a big gap to the expensive stuff like there used to be - particularly given many luxury cars are negatively affected by the big, wide, noise-producing tyres they now require.

Back in say, the early 90s there was a massive difference between something like a Ford Escort with a noisy CVH engine with a basic air filter, barely any sound damping material, poor panel fit etc and an S-class. Today, there's far, far less difference between something like the 3-cylinder Ecoboost Focus and a modern S-class. Even though the Merc has got better, the cheaper stuff has got better by an order of magnitude.
Yeah since I work in that field specifically, that's all it's about right now. Making them better than their competitors with every new generation, so the cars just keep getting quieter and quieter. More insulating materials, thicker and/or laminated glass, no unnecessary holes, etc, etc.
 
Figured I would post an update since I am bored.

Haven't done anything new to the Kia. Just been driving it too much (just passed 21k miles in 14 months of ownership) but it's been super reliable and I've only needed to grace the dealership with my presence for the every 5k mile oil changes. I still get anywhere from 34-37 mpg between fill-ups. Though 75% of my commute has the cruise control set to 60 mph or below, so that's helped.

At the moment I'm in the process of organizing some things to try and acquire a new car: a 2017 Hyundai Elantra Sport. I haven't had the Kia for very long, but if I can make it work then the new car will be a keeper for many years. I just miss having something sporty to drive. I am slightly upside down on the Kia though, so I have had to do some extra work to bring it down a bit so my payments will stay roughly the same, like cancelling the extra service contract. The process for that is taking longer than I'd like. Then the money I will be putting down is actually coming from a family inheritance which is also in process and taking longer to arrive than the family would like it to. We're hoping it comes along this month.

In any case, should the Elantra deal not work out, I'll just use a little bit of the inheritance money to pay cash for something to play around with. So far my list is as follows:
  • 01-03 Toyota Celica GTS
  • 05-06 Toyota Corolla XRS
  • 90-97 Mazda Miata
  • 91-96 Infiniti G20
  • 91-96 Nissan NX2000
  • 91-94 Nissan Sentra SE-R
  • 95-98 Nissan 200SX SE-R
Some of those will be hard to find in good shape, or find at all. Trying to stay under $4k. The Nissan's I would like to find one that already has an SR20VE swap so I can just worry about other things than swapping the engine to what I want. The Miata is actually lowest on my list, and I would prefer turbocharged for that but near impossible to find in good shape with a decent turbo setup for my budget. Then you have the Toyota's which are possible to find in that price range (the Corolla less so since they are hard to find anyway) but something new for me and might be interesting to turn into an occasional track car. (HPDE events, maybe some Autocross) The 2ZZ engine is the selling point there. I would also like an S13 Coupe, but you're lucky if you find one these days that hasn't been modified for drifting or carries a drift tax. Then to do what I want to it requires big $$$ since it would need custom parts.

So, if anyone has any suggestions (no Honda's) for other cheap, fun cars I am all ears.
 
I've only needed to grace the dealership with my presence for the every 5k mile oil changes.

Is that the recommended interval? That seems awfully frequent for such a modern car. My Panda is 13 years old at the end of this year and Fiat recommends oil changes every 12k miles (no time-based interval is listed in the manual but I always go by 12 months).
 
Is that the recommended interval? That seems awfully frequent for such a modern car. My Panda is 13 years old at the end of this year and Fiat recommends oil changes every 12k miles (no time-based interval is listed in the manual but I always go by 12 months).
Some new cars go to 10k. I think the owners manual on the Kia says 7,500, but because I live in the desert I like to do it every 5k.
 
So some of you may have seen this already, but I figured I might as well update this thread. Was finally able to get rid of the Forte and buy a car that I know I will get more enjoyment out of. And I will most certainly be keeping this one for a looooooooooooong time. This here is a Galaxy Gray 2017 Hyundai Elantra Sport 6MT. The dealership was asking $24k and I drove it off the lot for $19k. By far the best bang for the buck on the market right now. This one is the base model, but a premium package is available with a better stereo, sunroof, dual zone HVAC and a bunch of safety stuff like cross traffic alert, etc. The stereo in the base model is still really good, so no complaints there.

I do have plans for mods and will probably start with the shifter bushings (stock shifter is still really good), delete the intercooler resonator (yeah, there is such a thing here) and then start saving for suspension goodies.

Anyway, here's a quick photo I snapped today.

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Looks great - handsome looking thing and a bit more subtle than our closest equivalent, the Kia Ceed GT. Presuming it uses the same gearbox and components I agree with you on the shifter too, it's pretty good in those.

I didn't even realise such thing as an intercooler resonator existed, but most of the top searches for it on google are Hyundai/Kia forums and parts sites, so I'm guessing it's something that not many other manufacturers really bother with.
 
Looks great - handsome looking thing and a bit more subtle than our closest equivalent, the Kia Ceed GT. Presuming it uses the same gearbox and components I agree with you on the shifter too, it's pretty good in those.

I didn't even realise such thing as an intercooler resonator existed, but most of the top searches for it on google are Hyundai/Kia forums and parts sites, so I'm guessing it's something that not many other manufacturers really bother with.
I guess it's use is to reduce turbo noises. But the best part is that you can replace it with a $20 pipe and a few minutes of your time.
 
First mods incoming. Just waiting on a refund check to come in the mail and then I'll place the order. Going to start with an intake, rear motor mount and shifter bushings. I'm also trying to track down some lowering springs but I'm not having much luck with Eibach calling me back. They already make a set for the Avante Sport (Korean version) and I've been calling them to find out if they plan on selling them for the US version of the car, but 3 calls later they have yet to return my phone calls. Going to try again today and attempt to get a definitive answer. Then we start saving for wheels and tires. July is going to be hectic at work (new Altima, QX50 and others arriving) so overtime should be plentiful.
 
Placed the order for the intake, rear motor mount, shifter bushings and intercooler resonator delete pipe. The intake was a custom order (BPV port + custom color) so it might take a couple weeks to arrive. I'll be sure to document the installation of all. :)
 
Quick update on that spoiler. ^^^ It had some dimples in it that were pretty ugly. Turns out I got a bad apple out of the batch so the supplier sent me another one free of charge. Got it Monday but have yet to put it on. This one is nice and smooth though. 👍

Did this tonight:

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Here's the intercooler resonator (right) and the pipe I replaced it with (left).

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As far as the engine mount goes (aka torque rod in Nissan terms - I deal with these a lot at work) I'm not sure I want to keep it in there. Vibration is pretty bad when taking off from a stop, and during a full throttle pull. The manufacture says that it should "wear in" and some of it will go away, so I'll keep it in there at least through the weekend since I plan on going to the drag strip on Saturday to see what the car will run. If it's still pretty bad after that, I'll decide if I want to keep it in. Though I may try something else before completely taking it out. They include some plastic spacers that are there to prevent the mount from sliding side to side on the bolt, but the way they are designed they interlock with the body of the mount and I have a feeling that is preventing the bushing from moving the way it should and making the vibration worse. So I may try something softer that doesn't interlock with the body and see if that helps.

Anyway, intake will be here Friday so I look forward to that!
 
Went to the drag strip last night. Solid rear motor mount didn't do anything to limit the wheel hop, it was still horrible. And based on the extra vibrations that are a little harsher than I'd like, I will be putting the stock mount back in soon. (probably next weekend after it cools a bit from being 120 degrees outside) Anyway, this was the best I could muster at the track. You'll see the 60 foot time sucks, thanks to the wheel hop.

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Yeah it's pretty bad temperature wise right now. I met a guy there that had a BMW 328i and we were really close on the MPH but he was running 14.7 - 14.8 all night. But that's what happens when you have RWD and traction. :lol:
 
Small update. Removed and sold the engine mount. Might try another option in the future, but leaving it stock at the moment. Spent some time after work last night installing the shifter bushings and a weighted shift knob. Didn't get a photo of the bushings but they basically just replace the stock ones (rubber with metal sleeve) on the base of the shifter mechanism with solid aluminum pieces. (see here) I also have an electronic boost control solenoid on the way which should be here Friday. Nothing fancy, just supposed to help the car hold it's programmed boost throughout the rev range.

Here's a photo of the knob installed:

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At the moment I'm taking a break from purchasing more mods for a bit to save for wheels and tires. This is the setup I am aiming for below. Motegi Traklite MR131 17x8 +40 in bronze. Probably going to go with 245/40R17 tires.

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Went for a drive today up north in the mountains of AZ. Great roads full of people that have no common courtesy to let you by if you are clearly stuck behind them. :mad:

Threw this together when I got home for some other owners that were interested. Might as well post it here too.

 
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