What does it mean to be Artistic?

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There are many of time where I thought I was creative but I don't think I can call myself artistic even if I can draw cars but I go to some museums and there's stuff that could be considered "artistic" but I don't. I know this is a highly subjective question but what does it mean to you to be Artistic?

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Interesting question. I reckon that Art in general is a process of self-expression and that creativity is but one element of a range of 'artistic' abilities. However, there are several other aspects that define you're artistic ability. In your chosen field, be it painting, music, film, drawing etc., you need to have a certain level of skill. Skills can be learned, and often your level of skill in any given area limits what you are able to do. You also need a level of talent. Talent is a much less tangible quality - I'd describe talent as your inate ability, or your 'natural skill'. But talent is often difficult to spot, since the only way to discover if you have a talent for something is to try it out.

What sets creativity apart from raw technical ability, however, is how you combine the two aspects of skill and talent, with an additional element of originality. This aspect - originality - requires several attributes as well: knowledge of your subject, experience and the ability to think differently. The first two you can learn to a large extent by simply practicing, and learning about your chosen field. The latter, however, is harder to do, and I feel that this comes under the category of 'inate ability'.

Often you'll find that you're creativity is limited by one or more aspects, but usually the more technically skilled you are, the fewer limits you have on your creativity. For example, if you 'create' a song in your head, like a complex guitar solo, your technical skill at playing the guitar is the limiting factor as to how well you are able to translate that idea into reality. I think this goes for most things. However, with experience and a bit of lateral thinking, a creative but mediocre guitar player can still fashion something that sounds good, despite their lack of technical skill. For me, that's the essence of creativity, and the basis of art itself.
 
I'd personally say that being "artistic" and being "creative" are two interdependent things. You can be very "creative" or "original" without being very technically skilled or "artistic", or contrawise, you can have all the skill in the world (meaning you can play most any lead riff note-for-note, or paint the Mona Lisa with an airbrush) yet not have anything new to add to the world.

But of course, the more skill you have, and the more you know, the more inputs you have to fuel your outputs. Our brains are giant associative filters, really... and the more ideas and oddments you have floating in your head, the better chance you have of finding a way of fitting two and two together and getting something truly original out of it.

It's strange to consider how few truly original artists of great influence there have been... and how many master technicians clutter the field, only to be forgotten once their time has passed.
 
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There are many of time where I thought I was creative but I don't think I can call myself artistic even if I can draw cars but I go to some museums and there's stuff that could be considered "artistic" but I don't. I know this is a highly subjective question but what does it mean to you to be Artistic?

Such is aesthetics.
 
Can only those who make art be called artistic?

The artists who create new unique forms of art; are they really any different from a child who brings home a brightly coloured stick man picture? An extreme example, but with so many varying views and ideas of 'art,' what is 'creative' and people's appreciation of such items, who can really take the artistic title?
 
According to some random personality test I took today artistic is:

drawn to artistic and cutting edge industries, drawn to careers where creativity is a solitary pursuit, more abstract than concrete, original, appreciates beauty, ideal love seeking, intense, imaginative, introspective, likes indie rock music, prone to an interest in acting, likes art house movies, self expressive, likes to look wierd, pulled to the symbolic and mysterious, likes to perform, prone to keeping a journal, attracted to the counter culture, interested in journalism, odd, trend setter, different, lives an experimental life, prefers shopping at organic markets, attracted to wierdness, more likely to be vegetarian, dislikes the ordinary and non dramatic, feels both special and defective

I feel otherwise. I would say that you are artistic if you find it easier to express and like to express yourself in different ways. These might be painting/drawing, poetry/writing, music/dance, or acting/screenwriting just to name a few. You don't need to be skilled in these areas (that is what actual artists are for), but being creative is very helpful. After all, the artsyest part is coming up with what you are going to make and how to make it. Monet was artistic and an artist. He knew what to paint and how to paint it. Someone may be artistic but not an artist. Look in your English class. Someone could come up with a poem that is on a great topic but totally blows. These may also be your school's doodlers. Or take me, neither artistic nor artist. I could never think of anything to draw. I know I can't draw anything because I can't draw something already in existence.

If you have a pull toward the arts, I would say that you are artistic too. People who go to museums and enjoy looking at and pondering over the art would be artistic. Diehard music fans would be considered artistic. Big readers could often be called artistic. Again, I am not artistic. I am drawn to the pictures where I could say "wow. Cool building." or the Egyptian section of the Louvre, where I see a casket and say "Cool. There was an importand dead guy in there!" I could also just be insensitive.

But remember, Just because people don't understand you doesn't mean you are an artist.
 
Can only those who make art be called artistic?
Good question; as an engineer I definitely view some things I've made as "art" (and some things that others made, but would not immediately be classified as art)...although it probably would take a trained eye to see any beauty in it...
 
If you look at it differently, then I guess any could be artistic in their own way. Artists would think a painting is absolutely beautiful. Musicians could have music that they couldn't live without. Egineers could see an engine as the lovliest thing to grace the surface of the earth. For a CEO, it may be a business plan. Lawyers may be creative in how they argue. A sports player may think his style is unrivaled in terms of beauty. Can anybody be artistic? Maybe...
 
If you really want to stretch it (to me) you could go extreme and say Stripping or Porn is art. (actually being serious because I've heard it said)

I guess this is why it will always be on the Subjective side.
 
Interesting question. I reckon that Art in general is a process of self-expression and that creativity is but one element of a range of 'artistic' abilities. However, there are several other aspects that define you're artistic ability. In your chosen field, be it painting, music, film, drawing etc., you need to have a certain level of skill. Skills can be learned, and often your level of skill in any given area limits what you are able to do. You also need a level of talent. Talent is a much less tangible quality - I'd describe talent as your inate ability, or your 'natural skill'. But talent is often difficult to spot, since the only way to discover if you have a talent for something is to try it out.

What sets creativity apart from raw technical ability, however, is how you combine the two aspects of skill and talent, with an additional element of originality. This aspect - originality - requires several attributes as well: knowledge of your subject, experience and the ability to think differently. The first two you can learn to a large extent by simply practicing, and learning about your chosen field. The latter, however, is harder to do, and I feel that this comes under the category of 'inate ability'.

Often you'll find that you're creativity is limited by one or more aspects, but usually the more technically skilled you are, the fewer limits you have on your creativity. For example, if you 'create' a song in your head, like a complex guitar solo, your technical skill at playing the guitar is the limiting factor as to how well you are able to translate that idea into reality. I think this goes for most things. However, with experience and a bit of lateral thinking, a creative but mediocre guitar player can still fashion something that sounds good, despite their lack of technical skill. For me, that's the essence of creativity, and the basis of art itself.

You present three domains that, when combined, form art. I feel that when you take your latter two abilities (skill and talent) and present them with the third, creativity, you complete art. I believe that without creativity, art is not achievable. Skill and Talent cannot create art. Using your example, I can rip it up on the guitar, perfectly replicate some melodic Eric Clapton masterpiece or mirror some Zeppelin song, but I can't consider that creating art. Using those skills though, and adding your own creative input to create something beautiful is.

Ultimately, creativity is the key in art, without it, you cannot be considered artistic. For instance, I can pour a killer foundation with my skill and talent, but with my creativity, instead of digging the foundation, I'll blast it out, use the larger rock face as the wall of my finished basement. That is art.
 
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