White/Green Dodge Viper GTS-R

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 1' started by Thomas M, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. Thomas M

    Thomas M

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    Hello, and welcome to my first post on GTPlanet! :cheers:

    I’ve been competing in the US - Japan Sports Car Championship and I’ve been unable to acquire the White/Green Dodge Viper GTS-R. By now, I’ve competed in this event probably close to 100 times over the past year and I’ve had no luck. I’m just getting started on this quest again. I’m on Day 1408 in Game Days. Now, I will be keeping track of my prize cars each time I compete and I will be updating this thread daily. Yes, I have a lot of time on my hands - Coronavirus prevention/social distancing :lol:

    What’s the deal here?

    I have the NTSC U/C version of the game.

    I will provide any other details necessary.

    Thanks, wish me luck!

    Awarded Cars

    1st attempt: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    2nd attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    3rd attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    4th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    5th attempt: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    6th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    7th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    8th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    9th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    10th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    11th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    12th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    13th attempt: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    14th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    15th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    16th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    17th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    18th attempt: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    19th attempt: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R
    20th attempt: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    21st attempt: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition

    Entries

    1st Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1408
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Viper RT/10
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Camaro Z28
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition

    2nd Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1414
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Viper RT/10
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) Lancer EvoIV GSR
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    3rd Attempt:
    Day of Entry: 1420
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Viper RT/10
    (R) Camaro Z28
    (R) Lancer EvoIV GSR
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    4th Attempt:
    Day of Entry: 1426
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) Camaro Z28
    (R) Lancer EvoIV GSR
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    5th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1432
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Viper RT/10
    (R) Corvette ‘96
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    6th Attempt:
    Day of Entry: 1438
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Corvette ‘96
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) Lancer EvoIV GSR
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    7th Attempt:
    Day of Entry: 1444
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Viper RT/10
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    8th Attempt:
    Day of Entry: 1450
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Camaro Z28
    (R) Lancer EvoIV GSR
    (R) Nismo 400R
    Concept Car

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    9th Attempt:
    Day of Entry: 1456
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) R32 GT-R '91
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) Lancer EvoIV GSR

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    10th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1473
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Viper RT/10
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    11th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1479
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Camaro Z28
    (R) Nismo 400R
    Concept Car

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    12th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1491
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Camaro Z28
    (R) Nismo 400R
    Concept Car

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    13th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1497
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Camaro Z28
    (R) Nismo 400R
    Concept Car

    Car awarded: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition

    14th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1503
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) R32 GT-R ‘91
    (R) Viper RT/10
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) GTO twinturbo

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    15th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1509
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) R32 GT-R ‘91
    (R) Corvette ‘96
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) GTO twinturbo

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    16th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1515
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) R32 GT-R ‘91
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Camaro Z28

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    17th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1521
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) R32 GT-R ‘91
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Camaro Z28
    Concept Car

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    18th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1576
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition

    19th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1585
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: White/Blue Dodge Viper GTS-R

    20th Attempt:

    Day of Entry: 1623
    Car used: (R) White/Blue 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTi-R
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Nismo 400R

    Car awarded: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition

    21st Attempt:
    Day of Entry: 1633
    Car used: Green Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
    Entry List:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) R32 GT-R ‘91
    (R) Corvette ‘96
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) Lancer EvoIV GSR

    Car awarded: Black Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2020 at 6:26 PM
  2. submaniac93

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    Oooh jeebus. Good luck! xD
    Despite it being as far as we're aware 100% RNG (the prizes are simply car IDs, there's no parameters for them known) lots of people have trouble getting some colors. For me on PAL it's always been the red CRX LM and the Green FTO LM. Those 2 i've had so much trouble getting.
     
  3. Thomas M

    Thomas M

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    Yes, the Green FTO took a while for me to acquire as well... But now that I have it, it’s definitely my most used car in my garage.

    I want the White/Green colorway in particular because that’s the color most similar to the car that competed in the 1996 Le Mans event. And it’s not a proper GT game without a Team Oreca Viper :tup:

    I plan on completing this event another 100 times but that’s it...

    It makes me wonder if this car is only awarded during a certain time period of Game Days... But that would defeat the principle of randomly generated prize cars.

    Best,
     
  4. Mouc

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    Hi,

    Little something to add to the mysterious prize cars attribution system: try with a "weird" car, a Cosmo 20b for example, or Subaru SVX, or even a N.A. 2WD Skyline... Sometimes it helps (at least it's my superstition!) to obtain the "other" color.

    I've been struggling to grab the red Cr-X Del Sol to a point that I was more or less testing all cars available in the game, until the day I ran the series with a used Supra SZ-R (atmospheric one, who in the world cares about that car?). Guess what? I got the Red Cr-X. Applied the same technique for the Yellow Copperhead and the Purple RX-7, and maybe it's still superstition, but it seemed it worked...
     
  5. Paragraph64

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    I had the same problem when I tried to win a yellow dodge concept, but always won only purple.
    I had another memorycard where I already had a yellow one, and after booting from it, I made several attempts.
    And what do you think? I could not win purple even with 10 attempts!

    I think, You just CANT get all colors in ONE game. Only if you buy it from another memorycard.

    It's kind of feature because of bug. If you buy yellow dodge concept from another game save (if you had purple) and apply saved vehicle settings on it from another car color - the car will change color. Magic. Or bug.

    I think the same thing here with this Vipers

    UPD:
    Video how it looks

    I just save yellow settings and load them on purple so i have 2 yellow cars ;)
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2020
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  6. Thomas M

    Thomas M

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    Hey, whatever works :lol:

    I will try an oddball car after another 2 runs with my FTO LM.
    I was looking at the full car list for the game, and after deciding the Toyota *CORONA* Exiv 200GT will bring me more bad luck than good (you wanna talk about superstitions...) I figured I’ll tune up a Nissan Pulsar GTi-R and see what she can do for me!

    Open and willing to try all ideas, guys! Keep them coming.

    Take care of yourselves,
     
  7. Mouc

    Mouc

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    Faaaack... Well I guess it was only superstition... Sorry! :)
     
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  8. Overload_35

    Overload_35

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    I have only attempted for each event of the nations and I have won the FTO LM in green, CRX-Del-Sol LM in red & CopperHead LM in yellow.

    In the second attempt I managed to have the FTO LM in black because I wanted it in that color!
     
  9. Thomas M

    Thomas M

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    I keep note of the Entry Lists as they appear before you start the first race. I’m trying to see if there is a connection between that initial Entry List and the prize car that is awarded as a result.

    So far, the Entry Lists have repeated twice, on the 7th and 10th attempt, and on the 11th, 12th, and 13th attempt. However, on the three-peat, they awarded different cars. The 11th and 12th attempt awarded a white/blue Viper, and the 13th attempt rewarded a black FTO.

    Does the three-peat defeat this connection? Or each initial Entry List can award both cars, but only in one of the colorways... I will need to test more to figure this out.

    I will be making my next attempts on an Entry List that awarded a white/green Viper in a video I saw on YouTube.

    The Entry List was:
    (R) Impreza RLY Edition
    (R) Corvette ‘96 GS
    (R) Viper GTS
    (R) GTO twinturbo
    (R) Nismo 400R

    He used a Camaro Z28 30th edition, but I don’t suspect a connection in the car you race with... yet :lol:

    Really grasping at straws at this point... On 17 attempts, I’ve won the white/blue Viper 14 times... Are prize cars REALLY generated randomly in my case?

    At some point, I may need to get another memory card/game save into the mix and start trying on that save... Because we can’t really rule out the fact that the white/green Viper may not be awarded after a certain Game Day.

    I’ll keep everyone posted. Wish me luck!

    Edit: My 17th and 18th attempts were with the Entry List above and yielded a black FTO and a white/blue Viper... Another theory squashed.
     
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2020
  10. submaniac93

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    What the ... that's a weird bug o.O
    But no, all colors are available at all times, but the RNG is pretty weird. I wouldn't put it past PD to have glitched it up a bit.
     
  11. submaniac93

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    By the way, the Viper in green is a Team Canaska-inpired livery, from 1996. The Blue one was indeed Team Oreca however, same year ^^
    https://www.racingsportscars.com/type/photo/Chrysler/Viper.html

    Additional stuff: the Blue Viper GTS RM is a 97 car from the team Chamberlain Engineering and the red... well i have no proof of a red car older than Team Oreca's livery from 2000 onwards. It might be a huge coincidence of sorts.
     
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  12. Thomas M

    Thomas M

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    I appreciate that research! Here I am saying the White/Green colorway is Team Oreca, meanwhile it’s Team Canaska... And like you said, White/Blue is in fact Team Oreca.

    So perhaps the Blue/White colorway is the one I should have settled on this whole time :lol:

    For the sake of trying to figure out the prize generation in this game, I will continue to complete this event (definitely not as frequently as I have been, because it has gotten VERY boring), but I am curious as to if it’s even possible to win this White/Green colorway on my current game save... I’m starting to suspect that there is a glitch here preventing me from winning the White/Green colorway since it’s after a certain game day... Whatever that day is. I also wonder if this applies to any of the other prize cars in the other events.

    Eventually I will get another memory card/game save into the mix and see if that solves anything.
     
  13. submaniac93

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    I wouldn't be surprised by a glitch, but i'm not aware of any currently. All i know really is that car prizes are just a car ID, nothing can be predetermined like colors or else. Personally, i've always gotten more White/Blue than White/Green ones
     
  14. MMRivit

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    This might very well be placebo or some kind of psychological trick, but back when I last played through this game I got the "alternate" colors of the prize race cars by watching the end credits FMV once during the session. It sounded silly at first but I was pleasantly surprised in the end.
     
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