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Fredde_swe


Compare to this, and the one in GT4 is heavily modified:)
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You digged bad example, this "heavily modified" M5 sounded in GT4 much worse than stock.

GT is not going to make engine sounds significantly better even this time. After all, their car sounds are just badly recorded and badly blended samples. And there are too few of them. Distinctive sound of angry supercar engine can't be done by using idle sample, 2k rpm sample and 4k rpm sample highpitched over the top. It would still sound dead compared to real life no matter how sophisticated they do whole audio engine.
 
Heath_1
GT5 sounds almost spot on with the real thing if you ask me, not quite but close.

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Thats what I was thinking I feel the sound we have seen recently is much better than anything PD has done before and not only is it better it is close to the real thing.
 
drivatar
The sound doesn't change between cockpit and bumper view.
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Are you serious?

'Bumper cam' was originally designed to give the same driving view as cockpit, but without the need to model and design the car's interior.

Now, bumper cam remains for those who dislike their view to be obstructed and cluttered by the dashboard. It is also meant to be the equivalent to 'interior' view in the standard cars, as it was in GT1, 2, 3 and 4.

We also have bonnet cam, which serves the same purpose, but with a higher viewpoint.

Bumper cam has always been an interior view. The only true exterior view we see here is Chase cam. We have also seen roof cam in the past, which is the point of view from above the car.

I don't know why bumper cam is called 'bumper' cam, because the eyeline is well above the bumper.

The fact that chase view is a clearly different sound shows that Polyphony Digital's sound team were aware of the difference in sound from the interior/exterior. The fact that bumper cam has the same sound as cockpit only reinforces the idea that bumper cam is meant as an interior view, and that is how Polyphony Digital have approached it.
 
I thought hood view was actually from the roof.
Do we have a genuine hood cam then?
 
Spagetti69
I thought hood view was actually from the roof.
Do we have a genuine hood cam then?
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Supposedly the one in the Gamescom demo is the hood cam. It certainly looks different to the roofcam we've seen in the past (Such as in the TGS '09 demo), much lower and you can't see the roof 💡. People have asked for bonnet cam for a while now, as an alternative to cockpit and bumper cam.
 
Strittan
Sounds improved, but still not good.
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They're not bad, they're not the worst, they're not the best, but they certainly dont match the level of detail\quality of other aspects of the game, mainly the visual.

I dont get it frankly, PD loves cars, they know we do to, but isnt one of the first things you notice about a car the sound?

Surely Ferrari wouldn't have half the impact it had if it wasn't for that unmistakable V6 scream, or muscle cars their low-rev V8 rumble!?

Id say in every aspect its at the top of the chain, but sonically it seems to be a bit tame.
 
XEPEGTP
Surely Ferrari wouldn't have half the impact it had if it wasn't for that unmistakable V6 scream, or muscle cars their low-rev V8 rumble!?
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The last Ferrari ( road car ) I can think of which had a V6 engine was the Dino 246GT which was badged as a Dino, not Ferrari.
Which would by the way, if I would have a say, be a nice candidate for a Premium addition.
 
Ok it's official: sounds were and still are Polyphony Digital's Achille's heel. 80 million USD and they still can't hire professionals for the audio department...
 
hardvibes
Ok it's official: sounds were and still are Polyphony Digital's Achille's heel. 80 million USD and they still can't hire professionals for the audio department...
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Ah well, when the handeling is fine I'm satisfied. Always playing my iTunes songs while racing so I don't hear much of the GT engine noise.
 
I think those sounds are all ok, they not that raw but hey try to play the real zonda R sound to your girlfiend or wife and you will see what you get :D
 
Don’t they need a license to say PORSCHE?

(watch the Kazanuri participates in Nurburgring 24h, they say " SABINE SCHMITZ IS DRIVING A PORSCHE")
 
Some people need to get out a little bit more. The same argument goes around in circles and it can't possibly be concluded on a forum due to so many variables.

I've said before and i'll happilly demonstrate to anyone in person, GT5P actually sounded ok on a decent sound system, and by decent i mean real speakers and a real amplifier, the engine sounds drive emotion as long as you play them loud enough, ie, at levels you would experience if you were actually racing.
GT5 looks to have improved sounds, first hand experience of demo setups back this up.

Anyone putting all thier faith in:

crappy computer speakers;
playing exceptionally compressed youtube videos;
through a web standard, flash, which isn't exactly known for it's high fidelity;
through cheap soundcards;
recorded at a varying range of quality;
by a massive variation of recording equipment,
at poor positioning to the stereo of the speakers,
in a noisy enviroment;
by a TV that isn't capable of playing a fraction of what the ps3 can output, and is also desgned to be placed in a living room enviroment, close to the walls;

cannot possibly make any factual statement if the game will sound like it should when i take it home and play it on my system.

Based on some of the statements in here, i could use the same logic to say GT5's graphics are crap because of the quality of my camera phone taking video footage from a black and white tv, pointed directly into the sun over a coax lead because if doesn't even have scart.

/rant.
 
hardvibes
Ok it's official: sounds were and still are Polyphony Digital's Achille's heel. 80 million USD and they still can't hire professionals for the audio department...
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Well they are getting better and better. I was never much of a sound freak so I never cared much but it's nice to see it's improving. I agree it's still somewhat of a letdown though.
 
irnbrutwinturbo
Some people need to get out a little bit more. The same argument goes around in circles and it can't possibly be concluded on a forum due to so many variables.

I've said before and i'll happilly demonstrate to anyone in person, GT5P actually sounded ok on a decent sound system, and by decent i mean real speakers and a real amplifier, the engine sounds drive emotion as long as you play them loud enough, ie, at levels you would experience if you were actually racing.
GT5 looks to have improved sounds, first hand experience of demo setups back this up.

Anyone putting all thier faith in:

crappy computer speakers;
playing exceptionally compressed youtube videos;
through a web standard, flash, which isn't exactly known for it's high fidelity;
through cheap soundcards;
recorded at a varying range of quality;
by a massive variation of recording equipment,
at poor positioning to the stereo of the speakers,
in a noisy enviroment;
by a TV that isn't capable of playing a fraction of what the ps3 can output, and is also desgned to be placed in a living room enviroment, close to the walls;

cannot possibly make any factual statement if the game will sound like it should when i take it home and play it on my system.

Based on some of the statements in here, i could use the same logic to say GT5's graphics are crap because of the quality of my camera phone taking video footage from a black and white tv, pointed directly into the sun over a coax lead because if doesn't even have scart.

/rant.
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The whole argument is flawed on the basis that most people don't have a decent audio system, and games like Forza and Shift sound better to me.
 
owen.c93
The whole argument is flawed on the basis that most people don't have a decent audio system, and games like Forza and Shift sound better to me.
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Yes, but "better" is subjective and based entirely on your limited (no insult intended) experience, which is probably dominated by games such as NFS and Forza... ;)
 
hardvibes
Ok it's official: sounds were and still are Polyphony Digital's Achille's heel. 80 million USD and they still can't hire professionals for the audio department...
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Maybe the catering turned out to be more expensive that initially thought.
 
Yes that's all fair and well but look at this. This video is from PGR4, considered by many to have very impressive sound. This video is recorded off-screen, then uploaded to youtube which is then compressed. I played it through my Logitech Z-2300 2.1 channel computer speakers (which are pretty basic but more than good enough for computer use) through a Auzentech Prelude soundcard and the onboard soundcard too. It still sounds great. I then plugged in my cheap set of earphones, again sounded great. Then downloaded the video (and many others from same user) and transferred them onto a usb stick. Played them through my cheap Sony SDTV stereo speakers and it still sounded great. No matter where and what I used to play it, it still sounded great.

I used to own this game when I had a 360 and believe me, when you turn the volume up to ridiculous levels it sounds incredible, but I could still enjoy it at a low volume with crappy $10 headphones. In my opinion GT sound is still very poor, it is improving yes...slowly, but no matter what excuses I hear about it, I remain unconvinced. This is my opinion and please don't take it as a form of arguing or anything of the sort. Just putting in my 2 cents

Anyway, here's the video. The user has A LOT more like this, in cockpit view. (Almost all sound great)

EDIT: And by the way, I'm not really a fan of "Hollywoodized" car sounds like NFS. Some are great yes, but I prefer the original real deal sound that the car is meant to have stock.

 
Oh yes, PGR4 has the most accurate sound I've ever heard in a game, samples-wise anyway. Very good indeed.
Put those samples into GT5:P, though, and you'll appreciate the technicalities somewhat.

EDIT: That GT40 sounds more like a generic Windsor than the proper Weslake / Gurney / Shelby fettled unit, with 180-degree headers as found in a GT40 Mk I / Mk II. Unless it's a Mk III (non-fettled, still 180° headers.) Then again, the silencer on this one brings the sound more in line...
 
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I wish. I would easily trade 500 cars for sounds like that. Quality over quantity. Do we really need 1000 cars. They don't make any PGR games anymore :( I wonder where the sound team is now, or working on now...

PD should hire them!
 
Bekimche
I wish. I would easily trade 500 cars for sounds like that. Quality over quantity. Do we really need 1000 cars. They don't make any PGR games anymore :( I wonder where the sound team is now, or working on now...

PD should hire them!
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Do you mean Bizarre?? You can buy Blur, a really good arcade racer like PGR but even more arcade, made by them and with those wonderfull sounds that you like so much :dopey:.

Oh and that idea of trading 500 cars for better sounds ... Do you really believe that the standards cars suposed a lot of work for PD? If they are in GT5 is because they aren't difficult to put them directly, I'm sure that we would have just the 200 + premiums if they would be any complication, although I suppose that is what many would like :rolleyes: .
 
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Bekimche: hehe that was my idea, therefore I agree!;):D
SSJNeBiRoS: the point is to have a complete package, not only awesome graphics or only awesome sound...but I did keep some of those NFS titles on my PC for quite a long time, just for when I feel the urge to cruise in a mustang or trash a viper etc...pretty sweet sounds hehe...
 
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I definitely think PD need to do some more hiring, gt4 is still selling, gt5p sold very well (approaching 5 million) and gt5 full is almost guaranteed an epic lump sum, so spend some of that money on staff and make sure gt6 is completely whiner proof.
 
speedfreak69: :cheers:

EDIT: Aloha62_2: I agree with you there but I think the Japanese are more loyal to their staff and especially cause it's such a small team, they probably feel like a family. I can't see them firing the sound team for another, I could be wrong though. That's just the feeling I get when I see scenes from P.D. And I'm not sure if your calling me a whiner or not but just to make it clear, even though I'm not so fond of the GT sound, I'm still fine with it. I have become used to it now and it really doesn't bother me, I just wish it had better sound that's all. GT5 can't come soon enough
 
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