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United StatesCalifornia
Apr 25 2012, 11:52 AM #4221
JLBowler Bronze Member
I'm not saying the RM cars wouldn't be ok on the sports tires. If we're going after realism, who in their right mind would spend the money to upgrade a car to a race car and then slap some street tires on it to go to the track? Only PD would do this and I really think it has to do with the Japanese bias that exists in the game. I won't get into the specifics, but there are a lot of things in the game that is slanted toward the Japanese.

I will run whatever tires we are given as everybody has to run the same. I will say that the further it gets from realistic, the less interested I will be.
   
 
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United StatesDurham, NC, USA
Apr 25 2012, 12:01 PM #4222
Vol Jbolaz Hermits United
I don't think the tires in the game equate to real tires. I think they are just, as others put it, grip multipliers. Sports soft tires in the game probably have the same grip as real world, hard compound, slicks.

I will say that I voted for cars to run on stock tires, or on one grade softer. But that was because I thought the stock suspension was designed around a particular set of tires, and changing the tires too much might undermine the suspension.
   
United StatesCalifornia
Apr 25 2012, 12:13 PM #4223
JLBowler Bronze Member
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I don't think the tires in the game equate to real tires. I think they are just, as others put it, grip multipliers. Sports soft tires in the game probably have the same grip as real world, hard compound, slicks.

I will say that I voted for cars to run on stock tires, or on one grade softer. But that was because I thought the stock suspension was designed around a particular set of tires, and changing the tires too much might undermine the suspension.
Unfortunatly the stock suspension on most of the cars in the game is an absolute joke. Without allowing tuning, the only way to replicate real life performance is with tires. Some cars are going to be fairly close and others are going to be way off. Some cars we won't even know becasue none of us have ever driven them.

On a seperate but related issue. Why are the tires assigned based on the PP in the dealership and not based on the actual PP we run the cars at?
   
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United StatesTexas
Apr 25 2012, 12:30 PM #4224
zer05ive S.N.A.I.L. Spec Racing
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Correction: Comfort Softs should be 301-350 rather that 300-350
Then what tires would we use on a 300 PP car? Comfort Mediums are for cars with below 300 PP.
   
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AustraliaVancouver, BC
Apr 25 2012, 12:42 PM #4225
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Madrid would be 6 laps for the race length, zer0
   
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United StatesTexas
Apr 25 2012, 12:48 PM #4226
zer05ive S.N.A.I.L. Spec Racing
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Madrid would be 6 laps for the race length, zer0
Thanks tez, I've updated the line-up with that info. Btw, welcome back!
   
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AustraliaVancouver, BC
Apr 25 2012, 12:52 PM #4227
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And 5 for Suzuka in the 8C...cheers. I am hoping to be here tonight but we'll see. The Heat can wrap up their AHL series here at home (silly Canucks, grrr....at least Chicago are knocked out I guess, here's hoping Washington do the same with Boston) so I'm debating whether or not to go to the game :/
   
United StatesCalifornia
Apr 25 2012, 12:59 PM #4228
JLBowler Bronze Member
I am going to need to change my color combo for the Sunday races. Something happened to my backup that had my DLC color saved on it and it is now gone. I don't have a choice yet so I will be running something different than everyone else til I find one I like.
   
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Apr 25 2012, 1:02 PM #4229
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I am going to need to change my color combo for the Sunday races. Something happened to my backup that had my DLC color saved on it and it is now gone. I don't have a choice yet so I will be running something different than everyone else til I find one I like.
Do you recall the exact name of what you were using, bowler? I might be able to send it to you since you've been sending me the yellow one
   
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CanadaAlberta
Apr 25 2012, 1:04 PM #4230
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Do you recall the exact name of what you were using, bowler? I might be able to send it to you since you've been sending me the yellow one
I don't think you can send DLC colors tez.
   
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AustraliaVancouver, BC
Apr 25 2012, 1:15 PM #4231
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I don't think you can send DLC colors tez.
   
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United StatesNC/NoVA
Apr 25 2012, 1:17 PM #4232
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No, but you can send cars painted in them AFAIK.
   
United StatesCalifornia
Apr 25 2012, 1:38 PM #4233
JLBowler Bronze Member
Thanks for the offers of help guys, but you can't send the DLC chips. You can send the cars already painted that color but that is too much of a pain to worry about. It also turns into a time crunch for me to try and get the cars painted and sent and broken in. I'm basically away from home from Friday afternoon to Sunday morning/afternoon and not getting the combos until late Tuesday or early Wednesday is a little tight for me.
   
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United StatesSanta Monica CA
Apr 25 2012, 2:30 PM #4234
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irmopars

I have to agree, its a "Race" modified car, give it the race tires imo.
The other cars non-race are fine with me.
I ditto these two comments.
   
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United StatesSaint Louis
Apr 25 2012, 2:41 PM #4235
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I think we've stumbled upon a new gambling arena for vegas to explore; that being the over/under on *posts it takes to enact a new S.N.A.I.L policy.
Last edited by diabolicwyvern; Apr 25 2012 at 3:17 PM.
   
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United StatesCharlottesville
Apr 25 2012, 3:09 PM #4236
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Well, when your signature is a long as the message you sent, it adds up.
   
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United StatesSaint Louis
Apr 25 2012, 3:18 PM #4237
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Yea, some members have signatures that are way to long. I don't get it.
   
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United StatesCharlottesville
Apr 25 2012, 3:25 PM #4238
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Wow, even after I removed my signature, the message block is huge.
   
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United StatesBaytown, Texas
Apr 25 2012, 3:29 PM #4239
sharkie Racing Goddess
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So we're going to take a race modified car and run it on sports tires?????
I was also concerned about this, but then decided to check it out for myself, and here's what I found.


The Silvia has SH tires on it when you buy it. I went to the garage and went to the tuning page to see what the car was on. Then, I went directly to GT AUTO and have the Race Modification performed to the car. Afterwards, I went back to my garage and checked to see what tires the car has on now. It was STILL the SH tires. There was & is no tire upgrade given to the Silvia with the Race Mode package. Thus, this means that we are upgrading the tires outside what GT5 had intended for this car. The tire/pp scale now will now only allow for a tire upgrade of 2 levels, instead of 3 like we did last week.

Feel free to try the steps listed above on your own if you doubt my findings, I will not be offended.

At this point, I'm not concerned about the tire selection. The new tire/pp index scale simply means that All cars will now require the driver to pay a little more attention to what the car is doing and why.

I think it was you (I could be wrong, if so, I'm sorry) that said the S2000, doesn't handle in the game like it does in real life. I have to disagree. 2 of the 3 S2000's I have driven while doing High Performance Driving Instructing, handled just like in the game - a hand full. Both the 2 cars, and the car in game, were/are convertibles. All 3 lack the hard top cabin to aid in the chassis's rigidity, which is needed to allow for better handling in turns. This is why the S2000 in game has the tendency to oversteer, A Lot - just as it does in RL.

Now I will admit the 3rd S2000 I had the pleasure of driving while do HPDI was a standard hard top roof & this S2000 handled SO Much Better than the previous 2 had. The standard hard top S2000 was a pleasure to drive, it felt like the car was on rails when compared to the convertibles. The convertible S2000's seem to require the driver to be 'on-guard' at all times.

I hope this has helped.
   
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United StatesBaytown, Texas
Apr 25 2012, 3:34 PM #4240
sharkie Racing Goddess
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Is it awkward that I read this three times?
I still read it every time I see it. LOL

You said that those kind of posts are your favorite, so I thought you might like - only you know for sure. I do know that I had fun coming up with it. LOL
   

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