Rotaries at Midfield - fun open day

Hey fellas,

As a big Gran Turismo fan and also a big Mazda rotary nut, i thought that i'd combine my two passions for a bit of fun.

I had been running a thread over at the GTF where the guys could pick any rotary engined car from either GT2 or GT3 and run them at midfield for a flying lap. Feel free to run stock standard cars, slightly modified cars, or fully modded beasts.

Its not a race as such, but rather a chance for us 'rotor heads' to have some fun at Midfield with some of Mazdas finest cars.

So, get cracking and jump into one (or more! ) rotary car from either GT2 or GT3 and hit Midfield in either Time Trial mode (GT2) or Run and Settings mode (GT3).

Please share your set ups as this is meant to be a fun learning experience for us all. I'm sure that if you read through this thread you will stumble across some great 'rotary' set ups and i'm sure that your enjoyment and PB's will increase.

If there is enough interest over here i will make this the main site for the results and i'd continue to update here first and foremost. I may post threads directing traffic here at other forums, but the main results will stay putt.

Currently the fully modified 787B's from GT3 seem to be the fastest cars on the track with a few guys managing to get into the elusive '55 second club' and beyond, while some super modified RX7LM's (GT3) and some RX7 GT-C (GT2) are tearing up the track as well. But its not only the race bodied cars that are hitting the track, some very nice looking 'road' cars are spinning the rotas as well.

No time limit here, just have some fun and feel free to share your set ups and opinions of the rotary cars in the Gran Turismo series.

cheers guys.



**TIMECARD**

54.079 - Flinx - 787B - 984hp - GT3 *mind boggling!*
54.225 - Mr P - 787B - 984hp - GT3
54.260 - Rypien - 787B - 984hp - GT3
54.666 - Gasman - 787B - 984hp - GT3
54.804 - lotus350 - 787B - 984hp - GT3
54.809 - GVX - 787B - 984hp - GT3
54.872 - daan - 787B - 984hp - GT3
54.989 - AllavillaMaillaHallanVaara - 787B - 976hp - GT3
55.021 - Bollocks#999 - 787B - 984hp - GT3
55.104 - Earth - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
55.172 - Talentless - 787B - 964hp - GT3
55.195 - Prancing Horse - 787B - 964hp - GT3
55.356 - Wity - 787B - 984hp - GT3
55.470 - FuryX21 - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
55.545 - Jayjitsu - 787B - 964hp - GT3
55.549 - Max E. - 787B - 964hp - GT3
55.692 - smg - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
55.787 - Schumy - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
55.824 - GT40racer - 787B - 984hp - GT3
55.885 - Bobsmo - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
55.989 - NWS 77 - 787B - 984hp - GT3
56.069 - meeekael - 787B - 984hp - GT3
56.150 - vanishingpoint - 787B - 964hp - GT3
56.222 - patsimar - 787B - 964hp - GT3
56.256 - Zade - 787B - 964hp - GT3
56.256 - bramnar - 787B - 937hp - GT3
56.417 - Der Alta - 787B - 984hp - GT3
56.440 - Thrasher187 - 787B - 984hp - GT3
56.786 - STONEWOLF - 787B - 964hp - GT3
56.792 - GT40racer - 787B - 984hp
56.984 - English Pete - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
57.111 - driving101 - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
57.399 - Mr P - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
57.411 - vat_man - 787B - 964hp - GT3
57.524 - Rypien - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
57.602 - troy - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
57.681 - UnRevLimited - 787B - 984hp - GT3
57.722 - Dan - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
57.758 - NoQuarter - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
57.792 - IforceV8 - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
57.800 - barryf1fan - 787B - 954hp - GT3
57.815 - Temmer - 787B - 964hp - GT3
57.821 - sejanus - 787B - 964hp - GT3
57.859 - ZeroCool85 - 787B - 964hp - GT3
57.895 - Dak - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
57.923 - daan - 787B - 724hp - GT3
57.977 - hypersport - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.080 - Bollocks#999 - RX7LM - 979hp - GT3
58.126 - lotus350 - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.180 - Prancing Horse - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.193 - FuryX21 - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.363 - the painterr - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.474 - Temmer - RX7 LM - 932hp - GT3
58.486 - daan - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.747 - F1Rasta - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
58.842 - eddierotary - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.947 - vanishingpoint - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
58.975 - Max E. - RX7 LM - 9??hp - GT3
59.026 - barryf1fan - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
59.144 - bramnar - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
59.194 - GT40 racer - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
59.286 - Thrasher187 - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
59.438 - mr persistance - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
59.659 - STONEWOLF - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
59.737 - Rypien - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
59.776 - GVX - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
59.886 - alf - 787B - ??? - GT3
59.976 - FuryX21 - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
59.985 - NWS77 - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.039 - Jayjitsu - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.089 - lotus350 - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.121 - HR186S - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.176 - Fogelhund - RX7 GTC LM - 558hp - GT2
1'00.367 - Talentless - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.402 - ZeroCool85 - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.601 - paulkleiner - 787B - 984hp - GT3
1'00.810 - GT40racer - RX7 LM - 979hp - GT3
1'01.041 - gentleman - RX7 LM - 551hp - GT2
1'01.154 - rOOt6 Made OF Dough - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'01.537 - MazKid - 787B - 984hp - GT3
1'01.825 - vanishingpoint - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'01.939 - Blackhawk - RX7 LM - 551hp - GT2
1'02.344 - Rypien - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'02.475 - Rypien - RX7 GTC LM - 558hp - GT2
1'02.734 - pupik - RX7 GTC LM - 558hp - GT2
1'02.774 - Fogelhund - RE Amemiya RX7 - 446hp - GT2
1'02.817 - Mr P - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'02.975 - lotus350 - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.104 - Random - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.193 - Rypien - RX7 A-Spec LM - 541hp - GT2
1'03.231 - Gasman - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.322 - vanishingpoint - RX7 LM - 551hp - GT2
1'03.425 - AlavillaMaillaHallanVaara - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.436 - LoudMusic - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'03.460 - paulkleiner - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'03.728 - lotus350 - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.744 - Bollocks#999 - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.756 - vanishingpoint - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.781 - Slowpoke - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'03.925 - CodyR34 - RE Amemiya RX7 - 446hp - GT2
1'03.9XX - peekay - RX7 LM - 600hp - GT3
1'04.296 - Bollocks#999 - RX7 Type RZ - 709hp - GT3
1'04.317 - Bollocks#999 - RX7 Type RS - 709hp - GT3
1'04.341 - barryf1fan - RX7 LM - 551hp - GT2
1'04.353 - Rypien - RX8 LM - ???hp - GTC
1'04.412 - Rypien - RE Amemiya RX7 - 446hp - GT2
1'04.598 - eddierotary - RX7 Type RZ - 709hp - GT3
1'04.649 - Rypien - RX7 Type RS - 709hp - GT3
1'04.746 - vanishingpoint - RE Amemiya RX7 - 446hp - GT2
1'04.939 - GT40racer - RX7 Type RZ - 709hp - GT3
1'04.999 - Fogelhund - RX7 A-Spec '96 - 420hp - GT2
1'05.762 - Fogelhund - RX7 GT-Turbo '83 - 433hp - GT2
1'05.961 - vanishingpoint - RX7 Type RZ - 709hp - GT3
1'05.989 - vanishingpoint - RX7 Type RS - 709hp - GT3
1'06.016 - Thrasher187 - RX7 Type RZ - 678hp - GT3
1'06.144 - Thrasher187 - RX7 Type RS - 682hp - GT3
1'06.285 - ZERO - RE Amemiya RX7 - 446hp - GT2
1'06.488 - Rypien - Mazda Cosmo Type E - 634hp - GT2
1'06.721 - ving - RX7 LM - 572hp - GT3
1'07.103 - Rypien - RX8 - 515hp - GT3
1'07.233 - vanishingpoint - RX7 RS-R - 524hp - GT2
1'07.269 - 353 Hemi - RX7 Type RZ - 675hp - GT3
1'07.326 - Rypien - RX7 GT-Turbo '83 - 433hp - GT2
1'07.329 - Bollocks#999 - RX8 - 515hp - GT3
1'08.144 - GT40racer - RX8 - 515hp - GT3
1'08.206 - Mazkid - RX7 Type RS - 709hp - GT3
1'08.250 - vanishingpoint - RX8 - 515hp - GT3
1'08.572 - MattAlfa - RX7 Type RZ - ???hp - GT3
1'08.717 - MattAlfa - RX8 - ???hp - GT3
1'08.804 - Fogelhund - Cosmo Type S - 4??hp - GT2
1'09.118 - vanishingpoint - RX7 GT-Turbo '83 - 433hp - GT2
1'09.140 - vanishingpoint - RX7 Type RB - 469hp - GT2
1'09.171 - lotus350 - RX8 - 515hp - GT3
1'10.809 - vanishingpoint - RX7 Infinii - 465hp - GT3
1'12.729 - Thrasher187 - RX7 Infinii - 451hp - GT3
1'13.576 - 353 hemi - RX7 Infinii - 442hp - GT3
1'14.892 - Mazkid - RX7 Infinii - 465hp - GT3
1'15.093 - ving - RX7 Type RZ - 329hp - GT3
1'20.413 - Rypien - Mazdaspeed RX7 GT-C - 293hp - GT2
1'20.496 - Blackhawk - RX8 - ???hp - GT3
1'20.656 - vanishingpoint - RX7 Type RS* - 276hp - GT2
1'22.180 - Rypien - RX7 A-Spec - 260hp - GT2
1'22.283 - HR186S - RX7 Type RZ* - 276hp - GT3
1'22.372 - daan - RX7 Typer RZ* - 276hp - GT3
1'22.875 - vat_man - RX7 Type RZ - ???hp - GT3
1'22.927 - Rypien - RX7 Type RZ - 282hp - GT3
1'23.142 - Thrasher187 - RX7 Type RZ - 295hp - GT3
1'23.412 - Thrasher187 - RX7 Type RS - 292hp - GT3
1'23.435 - Rypien - RX8 - 281hp - GT3
1'23.524 - vanishingpoint - RX7 Type RZ* - 276hp - GT3
1'23.651 - daan - RX8* - 246hp - GT3
1'24.442 - HR186S - RX8* - 246hp - GT3
1'25.349 - Rypien - Cosmo Type E - 274hp - GT2
1'25.415 - vanishingpoint - RX8* - 246hp - GT3
1'26.104 - Rypien - RX7 Infinii - 207hp - GT2
1'26.354 - Rypien - RX7 Cabrolet '90 - 202hp - GT2
1'28.738 - Rypien - RX7 GT-Turbo '83 - 161hp - GT2
1'29.821 - Rypien - RX7 Infinii - 203hp - GT3
1'30.344 - Thrasher187 - RX7 Infinii - 212hp - GT3

* denotes an Arcade version of the car

Here are some HYBRID times for rotaries -

43.403 - Rypien - RX7/787B - 7290hp - GT3
52.748 - Zero - F1 94 / 787B - 984hp - GT3
53.239 - daan - MX5 / 787B - 2060hp - GT3
56.526 - Bollocks#999 - F1?/RX7 LM - 1690hp - GT3
58.009 - Zero - F1 94 / RX7 - 600hp - GT3
1'00.497- Craig - RX7 LM/GTC - 682hp - GT2
1'06.533- Zero - F1 94 / RX8 - ???hp - GT3

phew!

BTW - please let me know if you see some super quick 'rotary' times and/or settings at another forum. I'm forever on the hunt for mazda stuff

UNOFFICIAL LIST (this list is for times that i have seen posted at various records sites around the place. The drivers in question did not officially participate in this challenge and thier times are posted here just as a sidenote and interest piece complementing out timesheet) -

54.758 - Japanese Driver - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
55.009 - KENT - 787B - 984hp - GT3
55.173 - Weise - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
55.364 - rice racing - 787B - 964hp - GT3
55.645 - jbschumacher - 787B - 984hp - GT3
56.253 - Nxt - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
57.141 - Pedro - 787B - 9??hp - GT3
58.616 - patismar - RX7 LM - 978hp - GT3
59.313 - Robert - RX7 LM - 9??hp - GT3
59.425 - Arco - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.614 - ****eDaumen - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'00.687 - Taunus - 787B* - 690hp - GT3
1'05.938 - Killer RX-7 - RX7 Type RZ - 709hp - GT3


And remember, run clean with 2 wheels on the track (ripples are track) at ALL times. No wallbanging etc.....

Originally posted by Rypien
Hey fellas,

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Its not a race as such, but rather a chance for us 'rotor heads' to have some fun at Midfield with some of Mazdas finest cars.

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cheers guys.

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Now this is what I'm talking about! I just have to win a freakin` RX-7 LM ... (:

~LoudMusic

LoudMusic - great to see another rotary nut around the place. Nice avatar by the way! I look forward to seeing your set up and times.

Here is a link to the GTF thread. About half way down the first page is a list of the current times for the rotaries at Midfield. There are a few pretty good drivers getting around and somegreat advice on set ups have been posted. Hope you enjoy yourself.

BTW- if there is enough interest over here i'll post the timesheet on this thread. If anyone does not want thier name listed on the GTF thread timesheet then please say so when you post here (but i could not see any reason why).

IF IT AIN'T A ROTOR.........ITS NOT A MOTOR!

cheers fellas.

forgot to post the link *stupid me*

http://forum.granturismo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55120

phew.

yo rypien i've had enough runs for now will try some more tommorow , heres my settings and time for now !

spring rate = 18.6 18.6
ride height = 55 55
damper bound = 10 10
damper rebound = 10 10
camber angle = 1.0 1.0
toe angle = 0 0
stabilizers = 4 4
brake balance = 6 6
lsd initial = - 5
lsd acceleration = - 20
lsd decrease = - 5
auto setting = 37
final gear = 3.500
downforce = 0.95 1.20
asm = 0
tcs = 1

my time = 56.474

i can do better just need to piece it together

good tester man , nice one :thumbsup:

mazda 787b

Great run mate. . Not too shabby for a first session attempt, i'm sure that you will blow me away very soon! By the way, how much hp did your car have?

I'll have to give your set up a bit of a whirl on my next session.

I've just spent an hour playing my dusty GT2 trying to get some of the 'stock' rotaries around the pixelated GT2 Midfield. I don't remember GT2 looking so shabby

Keep those times and set ups comming boys. I've just updated the ladder at the link above.

Here is my 787B set up if anyones interested in trying it out. Its currently able to get around Midfield in 56.392 seconds.

SR - 17.9 / 15.5
RH - 60 / 70
DB - 8 / 8
DR - 8 / 8
C - 2.2 / 1.0
T - 0 / 0
ST - 6 / 6
Brakes - 23 / 16
LSD - 5 / 20 / 10
1 - 2.768
2 - 1.722
3 - 1.191
4 - 0.875
5 - 0.683
F - 4.999
Auto - 37
DF - 0.90 / 1.15
ASM - 0
TCS - 4


cheers.

the bhp for my 787b is 964 bhp , i'm gonna have a go with your settings now , nothing else doing , i will let you know how i do

groovy

new time using your settings 56.359

only done 15 - 20 laps , definetly a possible 55 sec lap
your settings are better than mine , more grip on the bends , oh well back to it

Not if i get a 55.xxx first.

We must have had the same idea,as i have just spent about 13laps taking your set up for a spin. I must admit that it does not feel as 'consistent' as my set up and is a bit 'slippery' but it sure let me improve my PB to 56.234 and then ...................... 56.075

So close yet so far away from the 55.xxx. I'm defianately going to spend some more timedoing laps with your set up!

SCREEN TIME - 56.075
LOGGER TIME - 56.046
1 - 3.016
2 - 6.086
3 - 7.056
4 - 3.712
5 - 4.982
6 - 8.226
7 - 3.167
8 - 2.518
9 - 4.901
10 - 7.064
11 - 5.318

great ride mate.

yo that time is flying man , i've not improved on my 56.3 yet but have been ahead many times to lose it in the last tunnel , oh well i'll keep trying man with both of these set-ups , again great time man !!

nah

you da man

I can taste a 55.xxx ......... but my taste buds have been wrong before.

Originally posted by Rypien
nah

you da man

I can taste a 55.xxx ......... but my taste buds have been wrong before.

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i dont think they're wrong this time man , your a cigarettes lenth away from a 55 man just rest from it and go back with fresh thumbs man and you'll nail it

Well, I got a 1'03.436 in the 787B in Arcade mode. Looks like I need a little more practice.

I'm going to go run some of the RX-7s now.

~LoudMusic

i'm gonna have a go with the rx7 tommorow my thumbs are still throbbing from that 787b

LoudMusic - what sort of set up and hp was your 787B running? And enjoy the RX7's!

yo rypien ! just out of curiosity am i allowed to use the r390 coz i just had a look at the time chart on your link and can see no entries in the r390 ??

Originally posted by Rypien
LoudMusic - what sort of set up and hp was your 787B running? And enjoy the RX7's!

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I was running the Arcade 787B. I guess that makes it "stock".

Originally posted by mr persistance
yo rypien ! just out of curiosity am i allowed to use the r390 coz i just had a look at the time chart on your link and can see no entries in the r390 ??

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Is the R390 rotary powered?

~LoudMusic

I don't think that the R390 has a rotary engine in it. Basically you can only drive the following cars -

Cosmo Type E (GT2)
Cosmo Type S (GT2)
Any RX7 (GT2and GT3)
RX8 (GT3)
787B (GT3)

LoudMusic- the 787 that we are using is one that you get in 'sim' mode. You can turbocharge it so that it produces 900+ hp. The arcade version would be drastically underpowered.

Originally posted by Rypien
I don't think that the R390 has a rotary engine in it. Basically you can only drive the following cars -

Cosmo Type E (GT2)
Cosmo Type S (GT2)
Any RX7 (GT2and GT3)
RX8 (GT3)
787B (GT3)

LoudMusic- the 787 that we are using is one that you get in 'sim' mode. You can turbocharge it so that it produces 900+ hp. The arcade version would be drastically underpowered.

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Well then, I guess I'll drag out one of my personal 787Bs and go to work on Midfield again ... (:

~LoudMusic

Originally posted by mr persistance
yo rypien ! just out of curiosity am i allowed to use the r390 coz i just had a look at the time chart on your link and can see no entries in the r390 ??

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The R390 runs a 3.5 litre twin turbo V8. It ain't no rotor, boys.

cheers man , shame though that car is awesome

Originally posted by vat_man


The R390 runs a 3.5 litre twin turbo V8. It ain't no rotor, boys.

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I would have been very surprised to see a rotor in a non-Mazda modern production car. But I also thought the R390 had a much larger engine than that. It can hang with an 8L Viper!

~LoudMusic

cool bannanas

I've tried a set up with a bit of mr persistance's set up and a bit of mine and have been suprised to be able to run very consistent mid to high 56.xxx's. Still have not cracked my PB as yet, but time will tell.

cheers

Decided to have a quick run with the arcade 'S' class 787B. Not a bad car with its 690hp.

I'll be trying to crack a sub 1'00.xxx run hopefully soon.

Managed a 1'00.549 (ASM off / TCS on)

cheers

Originally posted by Rypien
Decided to have a quick run with the arcade 'S' class 787B. Not a bad car with its 690hp.

I'll be trying to crack a sub 1'00.xxx run hopefully soon.

Managed a 1'00.549 (ASM off / TCS on)

cheers

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yo rypien , had a go with the s- class 787B at 690 bhp, after 15 laps my best time so far is 1.00.167 definatley going under a minute with this man i'll post it when i get under the minute but this will do for now

right mate , another 17 laps and managed a 59.952 i reckon i can squeeze another couple of 10ths at the most , i'll be back !!

Originally posted by mr persistance
right mate , another 17 laps and managed a 59.952 i reckon i can squeeze another couple of 10ths at the most , i'll be back !!

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That's insane ...

~LoudMusic

Originally posted by LoudMusic


That's insane ...

~LoudMusic

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thanx mate !

rypien and gvx will beat it for sure

Originally posted by mr persistance


thanx mate !

rypien and gvx will beat it for sure

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Oohhh you just love putting down a challenge don't you

You know you've got a bad a$$ time look at Smokey mountain! that time was really crazy! If I get some time tonight I'll have a stab at 787B on Midfield S-Class Garage.