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Jenson Button Nico Rosberg RBR: Sebastien Vettel Jarno Trulli Toyota: Robert Kubica Timo Glock Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen Felipe Massa Williams: Kazuki Nakajima Formula Two Champion McLaren: Lewis Hamilton Heikki Kovalainen Renault: Fernando Alonso Romain Grosjean BMW Sauber: Mark Webber Sebastien Buemi STR: Sebastian Bourdais Jaime Alguersuari Force India: Adrian Sutil Giancarlo Fisichella USF1: Jacques Villeneuve Danica Patrick Campos: Nick Heidfeld Nelson Piquet Manor: Bruno Senna Rubens Barrichello |
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Brawn: Jenson Button, Nico Rosberg/Robert Kubica/Vitaly Petrov/Bruno Senna
Red Bull: Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber Toyota: Timo Glock, Jarno Trulli/Kamui Kobayashi/Kazuki Nakajima Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen, Felipe Massa Williams: Nico Rosberg/Nico Hulkenberg, Kamui Kobayashi/Kazuki Nakajima McLaren: Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg Renault: Fernando Alonso, Romain Grosjean BMW-Sauber: Nick Heidfeld, Robert Kubica/Adrian Sutil Toro Rosso: Sebastien Buemi, Jaime Alguersuari Force India: Adrian Sutil, Karun Chandhok US-F1: Robert Wickens, Rubens Barrichello Campos: Pedro de la Rosa/Marc Gene, Vitaly Petrov/Pastor Maldonado Manor: Heikki Kovalainen, Lucas di Grassi/Bruno Senna |
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Jenson Button Rubens Barrichello RBR: Sebastien Vettel Mark Webber Toyota: Jarno Trulli Timo Glock Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen Felipe Massa Williams: Nico Rosberg Nick Heidfeld McLaren: Lewis Hamilton Heikki Kovalainen Renault: Fernando Alonso Romain Grosjean BMW Sauber: Robert Kubica Jaques Villeneuve STR: Sebastien Buemi Daniel Ricciardo Force India: Adrian Sutil Giancarlo Fisichella USF1: Sebastien Bourdais Pedro de la Rosa Campos: Christijan Albers Lucas di Grassi Manor: Anthony Davidson Takuma Sato
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Ricciardo might be a part of the Red Bull Young Driver Program, but he's only in F3. And while I belive winning an F3 title is enough to qualify for a Superlicence (by default, no less), I'd say Brendon Hartley or Jamie Alguersuari will get the call-up first, while Robert Wickens and Mikhail Aleshin in Formula Two will take over their roles as test-drivers. Ricciardo might get bumped up to a Red Bull-backed Formula Two seat. After all, the FIA intends that Formula Two becomes the new proving ground for up-and-coming drivers, a halfway point between national F3/the Euroseries and Formula One.
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Fair point. I know that I am being hopeful for a local, but word in the Ricciardo camp that I have loose relations with is that he is being earmarked. Plus, his pace is considerable, and he is exhibiting speed and reliability on par with other, more 'experienced' drivers in the program.
Still, wishes being horses and all that! Bruno Senna is a definite yes, Sato might be able to squeeze back in, and Piquet can kiss his seat goodbye, unless he gets some better results.
Not if Senna geta paired up with someone who has experience in a Fisichella-like mentor role. Someone who can teach him how the game is played at this level and can challenge him on the circuit. I think Rubens Barrichello would be the perfect man for the job; Jenson Button has commented that Barrichello was so good at setting the car up that he re-invigorated the Honda team when he arrived in 2006 and that he taught Button a lot more than Button expected. The Brazilian press would love it.A Senna/Barrichello lineup would be excellent because Senna has the name, the fame and the youth (and hopefully the speed to go with it), whilst Barrichello has the experience and the knowledge that a new team can really anchor itself around. I could seem them at the Playboy Mansion (my name for Virgin-Manor, though I am under no illusions), because Barrichello no doubt knows Richard Branson and Branson would probably be happiest with one of the two Brawn drivers working for him. |
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Except Rubens is at Brawn and If I were him I wouldn't leave that team for any other team.
If I was the team boss of a new team to F1 it would be Sato and Davidson that would get the drives. There is no way at all that I would put an inexperienced driver in the car. |
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Except Rubens is at Brawn and If I were him I wouldn't leave that team for any other team.
I don't understand the love for Sato. Aside from one pass on Alonso at Canada, he was nothing to write home about, unless you were describing someone who was consistently being beaten by his team-mate and usually a dangerous man to be near on the circuit. One of them might get a seat, but there's plenty of talent in GP2 to compliment them. |
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On the BBC coverage of Practice 1 this morning it was said that the new teams were all saying they want one experienced driver and one young charger as an ideal line up. How many experienced drivers are actually available at the moment?
Then there's the ranks of test drivers who may be looking to step up to a full-time race drive for next season. I'm thinking Pedro de la Rosa, Marc Gene, Christian Klien, David Coulthard, Vitantonio Liuzzi, Anthony Davidson and Alexander Wurz. Coulthard and Wurz might be happy with retirement and not want to come back; plus, Wurz was to be principal for Team Superfund, and if a manufacturer leaves or FOTA as a whole depart, Superfund might be in. Campos have said they want an experienced Spanish driver, so I'm better on de la Rosa or Gene. Probably de la Rosa, because he has the most recent experience with a race seat. Then there's the third group, former drivers who are now off in another series. Pantano is the only one I can think of; he's been in GP2 since leaving Jordan, and he's looking to make a Timo Glock-esque return for 2010 with Campos. And, of course, Jacques Villeneuve is waving madly from the back row. |
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Yes I'm serious, Kubica is a competitive animal and he won't stand for BMW's current pace much longer.
He's still pretty young - and therefore fairly cheap - so I think he could be a propect for Brawn. |
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Not if Senna geta paired up with someone who has experience in a Fisichella-like mentor role. Someone who can teach him how the game is played at this level and can challenge him on the circuit. I think Rubens Barrichello would be the perfect man for the job; Jenson Button has commented that Barrichello was so good at setting the car up that he re-invigorated the Honda team when he arrived in 2006 and that he taught Button a lot more than Button expected. The Brazilian press would love it.A Senna/Barrichello lineup would be excellent because Senna has the name, the fame and the youth (and hopefully the speed to go with it), whilst Barrichello has the experience and the knowledge that a new team can really anchor itself around. I could seem them at the Playboy Mansion (my name for Virgin-Manor, though I am under no illusions), because Barrichello no doubt knows Richard Branson and Branson would probably be happiest with one of the two Brawn drivers working for him.
I think Bruno has a chance, he seemed to impress the Honda/Brawn guys when he tested last year - Ross even said he may have gotten the seat had there not been such a large rule change, as they stuck with Barrichello because they needed experienced drivers to bring the car home (plus they knew they had a winner on their hands and a rookie is not a safe-bet). I doubt Brawn will drop Rubens next year though, quite clearly he is very important in the development and setting up of the car and he still has the motivation to drive without requiring large pay. I doubt they will get into the situation of having to choose one to drop in favour of a pay-driver. As for Kubica - I agree but where can he go? Renault? None of the current teams have weak drivers that they desperately need to replace, and how can he know whichever other team will be better than BMW next year? I can imagine him going to Williams or Renault perhaps but unlikely, another fairly large rule change next year means it would be risky, he knows his current team can get to the top when needs be, he just needs to lead them. The only reason I can think for him leaving BMW is because he seems to be at odds with the management quite a bit, at least after 2008. The current drivers are all pretty good and are doing well at their respective teams and largely getting on with them well with the obvious exceptions. So I don't see many moving, in my opinion, McLaren, Toyota, Brawn, Williams, Ferrari, Force India and Red Bull all are pretty happy with their drivers and all the drivers are happy with their teams. Only Renault, BMW Sauber and STR have driver(s) that are fairly likely of being changed, but they are all safer keeping their current ones in my opinion except Piquet. Heidfeld must be hot property for the new teams with that impressive finish-streak. Edit: In light of what was said on the BBC coverage today, I've swapped Grosjean for Liuzzi at Renault, as Liuzzi revealed he is likely to have a race seat at a current team next year.
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BrawnGP:
Jenson Button Rubens Baricello RBR: Sebastien Vettel Mark Webber Toyota: Jarno Trulli Timo Glock Ferrari: Fernando Alonso Felipe Massa Williams: Nico Rosberg Nico Hulkenburg McLaren: Lewis Hamilton Heikki Kovalainen Renault: Kimi Raikkonen Vitantonio Liuzzi BMW Sauber: Robert Kubica Nick Heidfeld STR: Sebastien Buemi Bruno Senna Force India: Adrian Sutil Giancarlo Fisichella USF1: Sebastien Bourdais Scott Speed Campos: Pedro de la Rosa Lucas di Grassi Manor: Anthony Davidson Adrian Vallés
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