Ford Focus ST Seasonal Challenge Rigged???

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Ford Focus ST race is rigged and never can be beaten. I'm hoping they'll look into it again because it's impossible to win it. The Ford RS is using sports hard which is cheating. I can only get as close as 15 secs to him after 5 laps. That Civic Type R alone took me all the way to the last lap to pass him and he was only the 2nd place car. I had to drive 1:47 lap times.
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I managed to win.. but I think it's the hardest one even with the SRF on.
 
Now if only the RS could crash and get confused like most of the A.I. do!
 
I was lapping around 1'42 - 1'43 with rigidity improvement, fully custom suspension,twin clutch plates, semi-racing flywheel and a shorter gear ratio, (top speed: 190 km/h)
 
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What you mean there's a race in GT that you can't bash your way to the front, cut corners and overpower all cars.

What going on? I never signed up to be challenged.
 
Spagetti69
What you mean there's a race in GT that you can't bash your way to the front, cut corners and overpower all cars.

What going on? I never signed up to be challenged.
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Haha, its about time the kids learnt how to race without using the fastest cars in the game!

Im enjoying the challenge, infact I wish they disabled the skid recovery for these events :)
 
Well, I used J.D.'s setup:

J.D.
I found that having all aids off except skid recovery force and abs at 1 helped more than tuning my car.

Just incase this is what I used (i don't know if they actually helped, tuned from apex book pg 165), I believe I took 1st place somewhere on the 4th lap....

ride height adjustment: front(-10), Rear(25)
spring rate: front (12.5), rear (6.7)
dampers(extension): front (7), rear (3)
dampers(compression) front (3), rear (4)
anti-roll bars: front (4), rear(4)

camber angle: both 0
toe angle: front(0), rear(0.50)
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I'm guessing that amidst all the topics involving people beating this very challenge and helping others do the same... this one is gonna be locked sharpish.
 
Spagetti69
What you mean there's a race in GT that you can't bash your way to the front, cut corners and overpower all cars.

What going on? I never signed up to be challenged.
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Problem is this is exactly what you have to do to win these exact races?

The User car is clearly faster in some places than the AI usually beause you're cutting a corner or bouncing off the inside of anothr car to keep you in check.

Its not side by side wheel to wheel racing. Its a time trial to see if u can use the obstacles in your way to help you mooch to the head of the pack:/

In the Cooper challenge who didnt cut the corner at least one time or use another car to help them make it around a corner?!
 
Of course its rigged, it must be the game, it can't be the player.
 
I agree the game encourages cheating, on lots of levels.
Overpowering Bob to have him endlessly re running events.
Nice big inviting cuts in tracks with "come get me big boy" written all over it.
Enter your bugatti Veyron in the Zimer frame cup.

The real cheating simulator.

The hardest part is to resist, gotta stay strong.
Mind you put a pint in front of an alcoholic and.........
 
rayster
Ford Focus ST race is rigged and never can be beaten. I'm hoping they'll look into it again because it's impossible to win it. The Ford RS is using sports hard which is cheating. I can only get as close as 15 secs to him after 5 laps.....
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I too felt this way after my first run was a 15 second losing effort!:yuck:

However, I don't know the track so I imagined there was time to be gained, and I had not thown all the upgrades at my Ford Focus.

I went back to the GT Tune, and picked up everything that's allowed, and re-tuned my car. The two important items are the custom transmission and an upgraded suspension. I then turned on the skid recovery and gave this mission another couple of goes. I lost by 5 seconds on the first go, so all the tuning upgrades had made a whale of a difference. After 3 more aborted attempts, I was able to win with a 3 second margin. I imagine that once we learn the track more time can be had.

I am enjoying these seasonal events, I just wish that repeating them would earn additional XP points and credits, or at least a second dose of credits.

Respectfully,
GTsail
 
Yea but u could have still won with half the mods just by turning skid force recovery on.

You can actually drive like a maniac to win with this. It works when your tyres start to go red, so i purposely make my tyres go red in all corners then they super hook up with traction and drag me out of the corner much faster than the opposition.

It sucks that we need these kind of cheats to win, but when the only way PD can make a good race is to give us 5 laps and a 30 second handicap then all is fair imo,
 
nickg07
Yea but u could have still won with half the mods just by turning skid force recovery on.

You can actually drive like a maniac to win with this. It works when your tyres start to go red, so i purposely make my tyres go red in all corners then they super hook up with traction and drag me out of the corner much faster than the opposition.

It sucks that we need these kind of cheats to win, but when the only way PD can make a good race is to give us 5 laps and a 30 second handicap then all is fair imo,
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You dont need the cheats to win, your just too lazy to put in the practice. Its not suppose to be finished after half a day
 
Firstly its you're so dont get lazy with me. And secondly show me a video of how you won without Skid Recovery and then tell me how many man hours you wasted on it, plus credits.

If i feel i can achieve it in an afternoon, i'll spend all afetrnoon on it. If after a couple of hours im so far off, then i will cut to win.
 
I guarantee ill do it without skid recovery, im not even that good a driver, its just a matter of practice. I dont see it as time wasted, im playing the game, thats the idea right? I dont want to cheat myself.

Furthermore, you should never start a sentence with 'And'.
 
You can when talking colloquially! We arent writing an essay now, are we esse?

So you havent actually done it yet? How far off first are you, and how many hours in the hole now?
 
I havent even tried it yet, it wouldnt be there if it was impossible, just man up strap on a pair and learn to race.
 
Indeed this is not fair. I can get 2nd al the time, but with a gap of 10-15sec to the Ford Focus RS, on Sport Hard tires. This is frustrating...
 
Fair play if you do manage it, dont get me wrong.

I predict only a small percentage will ever have the satisfaction of completing with no skid recovery however.
 
Rodpunisher
Well, I used J.D.'s setup:
J.D.
I found that having all aids off except skid recovery force and abs at 1 helped more than tuning my car.

Just incase this is what I used (i don't know if they actually helped, tuned from apex book pg 165), I believe I took 1st place somewhere on the 4th lap....

ride height adjustment: front(-10), Rear(25)
spring rate: front (12.5), rear (6.7)
dampers(extension): front (7), rear (3)
dampers(compression) front (3), rear (4)
anti-roll bars: front (4), rear(4)

camber angle: both 0
toe angle: front(0), rear(0.50)
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I think this is a very challenging race, but definitely do-able. It appears to be a real test of not only your driving skills and track familiarity, but also your ability to set the car up to your advantage.

I haven't tried JD's setup yet, but it appears that he has the rear quite soft. Won't that induce more understeer? Just curious. I'll have to try it out tomorrow.
 
In FF cars ive always set the rear up quite stiff, I dont think theres much need for it to be soft as its not doing a whole lot of work, its not driving the wheels or turning the car. you want the back end to be as lively as possible and turn as quick as possible. Most people seem to need about 1-1.5 seconds a lap, which with practice isnt a lot really.
 
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Just did it for my first time and finished 3 seconds behind it, I reckon if i improve my laps a little and not hit the walls a few times I'll catch that little focusy bastard :D
 
I was struggling to catch first place for a few tries, then turned on skid recovery force thingy and beat it first crack. :/ Kinda wish we didn't need to use assists to make the game easier.
 
RobGT81
In FR cars ive always set the rear up quite stiff, I dont think theres much need for it to be soft as its not doing a whole lot of work, its not driving the wheels or turning the car. you want the back end to be as lively as possible and turn as quick as possible. Most people seem to need about 1-1.5 seconds a lap, which with practice isnt a lot really.
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Actually, I thought it was the opposite. I was under the impression that for an FF car, you want the front to be "softer" to have better grip/traction and the back to be "stiffer" to induce oversteer.

An FR car with a stiff back-end... wouldn't that be very oversteery?
But, hey whatever works for you...

Looks like I'll need to do some more Apex reading! :lol:
 
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