BBC & Sky Will Split F1 Coverage 2012-2018

Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by DwightSchrute12, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. DwightSchrute12

    United States Oklahoma
    PSN:DwightSchrute12

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9550930.stm

    Curious to see what people across the pond think, but I think the general reaction will be pretty negative. Seems quite unfortunate.
  2. C-ZETA

    England London
    PSN:V16T91

    Wait a minute...does this mean...

    ADVERTS?! :mad:
  3. F1 fan

    Premium
    Scotland Yokohama
    PSN:F1fan1

    :censored:...

    This is terrible news.
  4. Grand Prix

    Premium
    Canada Vancouver, BC
    PSN:GTP_Grand_Prix

    What does this mean for my TSN broadcast which uses the BBC feed? Go back to Speed/Fox?

    [Darth Vader]

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

    [/Darth Vader]
  5. F1 fan

    Premium
    Scotland Yokohama
    PSN:F1fan1

    I imagine it won't be too good. :(
  6. Tesla

    Premium
    Australia Sydney
    PSN:GTP_slamjams

    So what does this mean for races shown in Australia? Do we only get BBC commentating half the races? Because I don't think I could live with the ONE team commentating for anything more than half an hour.
  7. aarror

    Canada Canada, Eh
    PSN:I_powerslide

    Hopefully it's not like Spain, where it showed the speed coverage for the first half, which was aweful, commercials every 5 minutes.:yuck: This is bad news indeed.

    My reaction to Speed's coverage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEk_ZNmH-6E
  8. Grand Prix

    Premium
    Canada Vancouver, BC
    PSN:GTP_Grand_Prix

    That was :censored: awful. Fortunately it was only Barcelona.
  9. F1 fan

    Premium
    Scotland Yokohama
    PSN:F1fan1

    Linked. It pretty much sums up how I feel right now.

  10. DwightSchrute12

    United States Oklahoma
    PSN:DwightSchrute12

    As awful as Speed is (I'll be the first to admit that), at least now Speed has 75% of the races live (maybe more, I hear they want to re-negotiate with FOX). That will be more than the BBC! :sly:
  11. F1 fan

    Premium
    Scotland Yokohama
    PSN:F1fan1

    I remember that now... Why did that happen again? I also seem to remember one of the speed commentators referring to Renault in the most annoying way possible... Rey-Know.
  12. That90sGuy

    Australia Wollongong

    That was my reaction when I saw the thread title. I can just see it now in the One HD programming room:

    (Top 3 fighting for lead)
    Programmer 1: So who's doing the broadcast?
    Programmer 2: I don't know it keeps changing.
    Programmer 1: We haven't had an ad break for the whole race.
    Programmer 2: What do you want me to do?
    Programmer 1: Stick an ad break now.
    Programmer 2: What with this great battle on.
    Programmer 1: Do you want the advertisers to get angry and do you want to get paid?
    Programmer 2: Yes (Sticks an ad break)
    (3 minuets later)
    Programmer 2: Oh no! (discovers that all of the 3 battlers have crashed and now a guy in a middle pack team is leading)

    P.S. Why have I never watched The Office?
  13. Grand Prix

    Premium
    Canada Vancouver, BC
    PSN:GTP_Grand_Prix

    I imagine TSN must be pretty pissed now as well. Will either have to hire a commentary team of their own or broadcast the Speed coverage, which people can just get by going to Speed TV anyway. Unless they black it out. Which would be a nightmare for me with the Euro rounds as I would have no :censored: clue which channel to record, or who is gonna black out who. I would have to be up at 4AM for those races in that case.
  14. Seismica

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    United Kingdom Guisborough
    PSN:GTP_Seismica

    Bernie you numpty. Quoted as saying F1 will not be on Sky...

    Agreed :(

    The only hope we have is that the pay per view service will mean no adverts, it's that way with football and with Sky movies (Both ad-free, at least during action anyway), so let's hope they don't cut the race in bits.

    The main problem is that unless the current team works with both the BBC and Sky, we'll get god-awful commentary and analysis for the Sky part of the races. I bet Jonathan Legard is sending his CV in to sky now...
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2011
  15. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus

    I don't know what people are expecting. The BBC obviously feel that sustaining the full broadcast is unsustainable, and Sky are the people who feel they can make it work. Or do you expect the Beeb to keep wasting money on something they believe is bad for them?

    There's no word on how it will be divvied up, but I imagine the broadcast on Sky and the BBC will be identical. I'm guessing Sky are the ones who have purchased the rights, with the BBC fronting up some of the cost in order to be able to keep broadcasting, effectively making them a syndicated station, which would be cheaper. I very much doubt the split broadcast will affect the Australian coverage.
  16. Grand Prix

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    Canada Vancouver, BC
    PSN:GTP_Grand_Prix

  17. Seismica

    Premium
    United Kingdom Guisborough
    PSN:GTP_Seismica

    When the coverage is this good and audiences higher than ever, I don't want to see their side of the argument.

    The thing with TV licenses is, their ratings could be zero and they would still get the same amount of money, it makes them not care about the viewer...

    It's backwards, Bernie should be paying the TV station to give F1 the exposure it needs.
  18. Touring Mars

    Moderator
    Scotland Glasgow
    PSN:GTP_Mars

  19. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus

    So the BBC should keep sinking money into a black hole simply because the sport is getting record viewing figures? Sorry, but you need to compare the figures for Formula 1 to the figures for other sports.
  20. rockdude101

    Warwickshire

    I already have Sky Sports, mostly for the football season and I know they don't interupt the matches. Same for the darts & rugby.

    I'm more concerned/annoyed about the presentation package, BBC's package right now, is the best it's been since the early days of the ITV coverage. Sky Sports have a lot of little nuances that they have to great right - such as Fleetwood Mac as title track, Brundle's grid-walks, restrained clutter on screen for the race, etc...

    I don't get how this sharing will work, either. apparently they'll split coverage when it's duel broadcast but when it's Sky Sports exclusive, BBC will only get highlights. Who & When decide which GP will be exclusive to SS? Will the prestige races be equally split, will there be a block of SS exclusives or alternate coverage?

    This also potentially sounds disasterous for SS - The 'Super Sunday' football/soccer matches are usually touted as 'must see' and often feature top 6 or derby matches and are given top priority; if the two companies agree that Sky would show the Brazillian GP, this would directly collide with the 'feature' football match of the weekend.

    Sky Sports also show Saturday Midday matches - usually played earlier than the normal 15:00 start for all traditional matches throughout the association as due to broadcasting or police reasons. GP Qualifying will again be bumped off to Sky Sports 2.

    Here's another bad omen for Sky Sports aswell, there last opportunity within the Motorsports coverage was with the fated A1GP...
  21. Seismica

    Premium
    United Kingdom Guisborough
    PSN:GTP_Seismica

  22. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus

    Sky Sports haven't said they're going to change a thing about the broadcast. However, if there are less grid-walks in future, it will be because Brundle has already said that he will be doing less of them.

    That will likely be agreed-upon in advance.

    A1GP didn't fail because Sky was the broadcaster. A1GP failed because it was compeltely mismanaged.
  23. DwightSchrute12

    United States Oklahoma
    PSN:DwightSchrute12

    I imagine most won't willingly pay, what £600? a year for something they get free this year. I sense a decrease in viewers and increase in illegal streaming, at least in the UK. Whether it will be minimal or substantial remains to be seen if these people carry out their current anger or change their minds next year and dump the money anyway.

    Curious to see what FOTA say about this, maybe today. Remember Mr. Whitmarsh?

  24. MatskiMonk

    United Kingdom UK
    PSN:Matski

    Yup, my interest in F1 was only hanging in barely by a thread anyway, given that by the time next season starts I'm going to have cancelled my full-on Sky subscription, I can't see me making the effort with F1 at all in 2012.

    I think the BBC were doing a pretty good job with F1 coverage, far better then ITV we...

    <AD BREAK>


    ..re, but I guess it's difficult for the BBC to compete with SKY's £$£$£$£$
  25. Seismica

    Premium
    United Kingdom Guisborough
    PSN:GTP_Seismica

    A comment on the Guardian's news story hit the nail on the head;

    There is no way i'm paying a full TV license to see half the races a year when it's the only thing I watch on TV (Being a student, I don't have a TV, I watch online - it's still required though).

    With loopholes in the iPlayer terms and conditions, I can still watch the BBC races, just not live, BBC has just lost my license fee for 2012 and 2013.
  26. dudedo

    United States Santa Barbara
    PSN:dudedo

    Who do you think will commentate, or will it be the same guys?
  27. Touring Mars

    Moderator
    Scotland Glasgow
    PSN:GTP_Mars

    Richard Keys and Andy Gray.
  28. skylinefx

    London

    It won't be the same guys on Sky that will be commentating because BBC will be broadcasting extended highlights so I would imagine that the current commentators will stay with BBC.

    Simple solution: Don't watch F1 on Sky. Ratings will suffer and they will have to drop it. Who's with me?!
  29. homeforsummer

    Premium

    Apparently Sky have double the ad time that ITV did as well - 15 minutes per hour rather than 7.5 minutes per hour.

    Would have preferred BBC to save money by dropping Eddie Jordan than by dropping half the races...

    And yes, I could probably watch all the races using the online BBC feed, but this is F1, not porn. I prefer watching F1 on my HD TV rather than a 10.1 inch netbook screen.
  30. F1 fan

    Premium
    Scotland Yokohama
    PSN:F1fan1

    I'm hoping that sky will do some special F1 only deal. Dunno if I can afford *the works*.

    As it happens, a few sky sports channels can be accessed via subscription on a freeview box. Providing F1 is available on these channels, it may be the best (cheapest) option for those in the uk who want to watch it legally.
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