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After seeing a few more of your posts, I wonder if I've missed something. Is there a difference between the controller that comes with initial purchase, and a Controller S? I'm just using what came in the box origionally. I like how PS2 has 4 button options (R1/R2, L1/L2) so I don't have to take my thumbs off the steering and gas to do things like look behind me, etc. I enjoy the "triggers" on the XBOX for better control of throttle etc, but long term use of it is uncomfortable for some reason. Perhaps I'm just a pansy.