RX-7 Drift Setup for DFGT?

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Ive researched and found out that the rx7 is a good car to start drifting with a wheel. I have the DFGT. Is there a setup out there? anyone have one?
 
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🤬 like you ruin GTP. I know what I'm talking about. I ran a GTP wheel drift school and successfully taught 10+ people to drift on the wheel (Not including people outside of the school). You're nothing more than one of the little roaches that runs on GTP infesting it with nonsense.



I told him to do these simple step-by-step instructions because it is the easiest/simplest way to get a car sideways. There was no need for any extra detail in order for him to get out their and learn the basics. I know what I'm talking about and I'm an excellent teacher so I don't appreciate some random 🤬 coming along and putting a 🤬 stupid comment like:

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GOOD DAY SIR :grumpy:
 
🤬 like you ruin GTP. I know what I'm talking about. I ran a GTP wheel drift school and successfully taught 10+ people to drift on the wheel (Not including people outside of the school). You're nothing more than one of the little roaches that runs on GTP infesting it with nonsense.



I told him to do these simple step-by-step instructions because it is the easiest/simplest way to get a car sideways. There was no need for any extra detail in order for him to get out their and learn the basics. I know what I'm talking about and I'm an excellent teacher so I don't appreciate some random 🤬 coming along and putting a 🤬 stupid comment like:



GOOD DAY SIR :grumpy:


LOL.. Classic :P
 
🤬 like you ruin GTP. I know what I'm talking about. I ran a GTP wheel drift school and successfully taught 10+ people to drift on the wheel (Not including people outside of the school). You're nothing more than one of the little roaches that runs on GTP infesting it with nonsense.



I told him to do these simple step-by-step instructions because it is the easiest/simplest way to get a car sideways. There was no need for any extra detail in order for him to get out their and learn the basics. I know what I'm talking about and I'm an excellent teacher so I don't appreciate some random 🤬 coming along and putting a 🤬 stupid comment

"I'm not racist, I have tons of black friends."

In all seriousness, having drifted all sorts of vehicles and vehicle types on DS3, then DFGT, and now a T500RS, the only part of the initial reply I would agree with is to start with comfort hard tires, as they're the easiest to initiate and are still controllable. I most definitely would have given tips such as opening the diff before anything else, and possibly throwing on the fully customizable suspension to allow for spring rate (stiffer in the rear), camber (more in the front, less in the rear), and toe (start off with slight decreases if a quicker initiation is desired) adjustments. Upgrading the performance should only be done once a driver has gotten a feel for what [setting] gets the car to slide and how controlled it is once sideways. Power can be added judiciously to make up for broad gear splits instead of opting for the fully customizable 'box, but that's only after all other options have been exhausted.
 
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"I'm not racist, I have tons of black friends."

In all seriousness, having drifted all sorts of vehicles and vehicle types on DS3, then DFGT, and now a T500RS, the only part of the initial reply I would agree with is to start with comfort hard tires, as they're the easiest to initiate and are still controllable. I most definitely would have given tips such as opening the diff before anything else, and possibly throwing on the fully customizable suspension to allow for spring rate (stiffer in the rear), camber (more in the front, less in the rear), and toe (start off with slight decreases if a quicker initiation is desired) adjustments. Upgrading the performance should only be done once a driver has gotten a feel for what [setting] gets the car to slide and how controlled it is once sideways. Power can be added judiciously to make up for broad gear splits instead of opting for the fully customizable 'box, but that's only after all other options have been exhausted.

From your comment sir I can tell that you are not only a random 🤬 but you're also an inexperienced tuner.

EDIT: Furthermore you didn't even copy the whole reply. I said "learn that way". There are tons of ways to learn but that way that I posted was the quickest and easiest way to post a general idea of what he needed to do in order to learn how to drift with a DFGT.
 
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Try the premium FC Rx7 or the premium 3.0 Supra. Buy all the parts, drift on comfort hards, and drop the ride height. Learn that way.

are you retarded... you dont put all mods on a car and drift it.. it takes harder to setup..

Try just lowering the suspension and put in Comfort Hards and get the feel before the car before doing any modifications on it.
 
Riiight..... where that came from, I have no idea.

It was the end result of a thought process that mocked his claim that his experience meant that his words should be taken as though they came straight from God's (or Allah's, Mohammed's, Buddha's, L. Ron Hubbard's) mouth, and [clearly] that wasn't as obvious as I thought. My mistake. I apologize.

From your comment sir I can tell that you are not only a random 🤬 but you're also an inexperienced tuner.

EDIT: Furthermore you didn't even copy the whole reply. I said "learn that way". There are tons of ways to learn but that way that I posted was the quickest and easiest way to post a general idea of what he needed to do in order to learn how to drift with a DFGT.

Inexperienced tuner? Is it my willingness to see what the car is capable of out of the box before blindly throwing stuff on? Will opening the diff and stiffening the rear not get the car to initiate and will adding negative camber to the front not make the slide more controllable beyond that point?

Wheel drifting requires more throttle modulation than DS3 drifting, as quick steering inputs are much easier to accomplish with the latter than the former. Increasing the performance level of the car will only require even more throttle modulation and will make the learning curve that much steeper. There isn't a single RX7 in the game that lacks the power to initiate.

As for not quoting enough of your original reply, it was painfully obvious that that was the way you thought he should learn, and I didn't feel the need (nor should you have have felt the need) to put that final point on.
 
can we please all calm down?

Come on lads, don't get angry at each-other giving advice.

'Protege', drifters should not learn by throwing horsepower at the problem, and should start in a nice friendly low power JDM car (FC, Supra, S13/14/15) with a simple diff tune (5,30,30 / 60,60,60 / 5,60,60) and learn from there. (Comfort hards all the way!)

Try not to boast about how good you think you are, drifting's not about that.

'Dorfito', calling people retarded is a really bad way to start a point...

'DeNySZzMm', there are plenty of setups in the depot:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135527
See what you can find there.
 
'Protege', drifters should not learn by throwing horsepower at the problem, and should start in a nice friendly low power JDM car (FC, Supra, S13/14/15) with a simple diff tune (5,30,30 / 60,60,60 / 5,60,60) and learn from there. (Comfort hards all the way!)[/QUOTE]

The point I was trying to make, albeit in my own heavy-handed and smart-assed sort of way. Thank you for the cool-headed intervention prior to heavy-handed and thread-closedy (closedy?) moderator intervention GODfreyGT5. 👍
 
can we please all calm down?

Come on lads, don't get angry at each-other giving advice.

'Protege', drifters should not learn by throwing horsepower at the problem, and should start in a nice friendly low power JDM car (FC, Supra, S13/14/15) with a simple diff tune (5,30,30 / 60,60,60 / 5,60,60) and learn from there. (Comfort hards all the way!)

Try not to boast about how good you think you are, drifting's not about that
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'Dorfito', calling people retarded is a really bad way to start a point...

'DeNySZzMm', there are plenty of setups in the depot:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135527
See what you can find there.

I didn't say throwing a bunch of horsepower on it would help him get better. I told him to get an FC (384 HP off the lot) install all the parts, and throw it around. This is the simplest way to learn the fundamentals. Frag I didn't boast about how good I thought I was. Even though you don't know who I am, I helped you out a lot the first day you got your DFGT. I simply backed up my experience in teaching with a short summary of my activity on GTP. The drama was unnecessary and I got a little annoyed when Nismo and all the other GTP queers replied the way they did. I'll ask a Mod to close this thread since it has escalated to this point. End of discussion
 
Wow I cannot believe the lack of respect you are showing your fellow users.

Personally I do not remember you helping me learn. As I recall I spent hour apon hour in my lounge training myself either alone or with other D-Max members (most notbably Kotkas in early stages, who my first DFGT photos were with), and have continued to since.

I hope you recieve a warning, infraction points and potentially a ban for the attitude you have shown here.
 
Wow I cannot believe the lack of respect you are showing your fellow users.

Personally I do not remember you helping me learn. As I recall I spent hour apon hour in my lounge training myself either alone or with other D-Max members (most notbably Kotkas in early stages, who my first DFGT photos were with), and have continued to since.

I hope you recieve a warning, infraction points and potentially a ban for the attitude you have shown here.

Honestly frag, I agree with you, my attitude was very poor here. You know why? Because I find the drifting section of GTP to be filled with annoying, senseless, jerks who do nothing more than ruin the GTP drifting community. I'm sick of it so I raged. Regardless of how you take it, I know who my attitude is so poor right now and I think I have good reasons.
 
I didn't say throwing a bunch of horsepower on it would help him get better. I told him to get an FC (384 HP off the lot) install all the parts, and throw it around. This is the simplest way to learn the fundamentals. Frag I didn't boast about how good I thought I was. Even though you don't know who I am, I helped you out a lot the first day you got your DFGT. I simply backed up my experience in teaching with a short summary of my activity on GTP. The drama was unnecessary and I got a little annoyed when Nismo and all the other GTP queers replied the way they did. I'll ask a Mod to close this thread since it has escalated to this point. End of discussion

sorry sir but its not... what i do is drift the car stock with only comfort hards if i feel they stall i slowly put power mods and if its uneasy to control that where you play with the lowering settings.
 
I didn't say throwing a bunch of horsepower on it would help him get better. I told him to get an FC (384 HP off the lot) install all the parts, and throw it around. This is the simplest way to learn the fundamentals. Frag I didn't boast about how good I thought I was. Even though you don't know who I am, I helped you out a lot the first day you got your DFGT. I simply backed up my experience in teaching with a short summary of my activity on GTP. The drama was unnecessary and I got a little annoyed when Nismo and all the other GTP queers replied the way they did. I'll ask a Mod to close this thread since it has escalated to this point. End of discussion

Regardless of whether you think your reasons are justified is moot, because the fact of the matter is they aren't. Referring to anyone using such a pejorative won't be tolerated a second time.
 
Regardless of whether you think your reasons are justified is moot, because the fact of the matter is they aren't. Referring to anyone using such a pejorative won't be tolerated a second time.

If they're moot how can you come and declare them unjustified? I would like to talk to you in private if that is possible.
 
ProtegeDrifter
If they're moot how can you come and declare them unjustified? I would like to talk to you in private if that is possible.

That is the least of your concerns. What should take higher priority is why you deem it necessary to hurl insults at other members and then have the gall to ask for a thread to be closed after you are the one to start the fire. Consider yourself lucky you aren't taking a holiday from the site.

Re-read the AUP, the one you agreed to follow when you joined the site, and consider why you don't think it's important to be a man of your word before you have another sweary outburst, as it's very likely the next one will be the last.

Now, back on to helping the OP.
 
That is the least of your concerns. What should take higher priority is why you deem it necessary to hurl insults at other members and then have the gall to ask for a thread to be closed after you are the one to start the fire. Consider yourself lucky you aren't taking a holiday from the site.

Re-read the AUP, the one you agreed to follow when you joined the site, and consider why you don't think it's important to be a man of your word before you have another sweary outburst, as it's very likely the next one will be the last.

Now, back on to helping the OP.

I apologize if this comes off wrong but I don't see how this is ALL my fault when Nismo replied to my post with this:


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I understand it might have gotten out of hand on my part but I don't quite follow how it's my fault. I honestly don't mean to be rude. I just don't follow.
 
I started with a lower powered car kind of like grassroots when you learn with an under powered car you have to commit to every drift. Like pegging the throttle to the floor to keep it in the power band, not to much throttle control is needed mostly just on and off the throttle. Drifting an underpowered car lets you focus on your steering and hand input and you really get a feel of how to keep the car balanced with mostly just steering control. This is just how i started to learn drifting on the wheel hope this helps out.

Cj.
 
I started with a lower powered car kind of like grassroots when you learn with an under powered car you have to commit to every drift. Like pegging the throttle to the floor to keep it in the power band, not to much throttle control is needed mostly just on and off the throttle. Drifting an underpowered car lets you focus on your steering and hand input and you really get a feel of how to keep the car balanced with mostly just steering control. This is just how i started to learn drifting on the wheel hope this helps out.

Cj.

well said well said mate 👍
 
I started with a lower powered car kind of like grassroots when you learn with an under powered car you have to commit to every drift. Like pegging the throttle to the floor to keep it in the power band, not to much throttle control is needed mostly just on and off the throttle. Drifting an underpowered car lets you focus on your steering and hand input and you really get a feel of how to keep the car balanced with mostly just steering control. This is just how i started to learn drifting on the wheel hope this helps out.

Cj.

Like a '79 Celica GT Liftback with a struggling 20R, welded diff, and cheapie tires? I loved that thing...

Anyway, in the interest of addressing the OP, I'd like to say that Dorifto's suggestion involving slowly adding parts is a point in the right direction, as they will gradually eliminate the problem of lacking slip, but as an adjustable LSD and fully customizable suspension are recommended anyway, I like to start with those.

Opening the differential (lowering the numbers, i.e. 7/35/15) will help the tires overspin and loosen the tires' grip, while stiffening the rear suspension in proportion to the front will increase the amount of power that is put to the ground and help to maintain the loss of traction. Helping to control the car once sideways is best accomplished by increasing the negative camber on the front (I like to start with a minimum of 1.5 and see where I need to go from there), while toe angle reduction (slider moved to the left) will assist in maintaining a constant angle, my first move is .10 on the front and 0 on the rear just to see how the car behaves with it adjusted. Keeping in mind the "rules" of tuning, changes can be made accordingly.

Conversely, if the car has too much power already and you don't want to start anew, I recommend closing the diff (higher numbers, I like the feel of 47/11/23 on my maxed Spirit R FD3S with 3.1° camber and front and 2.1 in back) and decreasing the stiffness of the rear suspension in relation to the front. As you can see, the aforementioned rules still apply when working back.

I hope this is used well and you get a feel for drifting with the wheel, it's fun and I can't imagine going back to the DS3. Just remember that your right ankle is what you'll be moving the most, modulating the power, as steering inputs are much more difficult to master with the wheel than with the controller.

it's stupid to drift a stock car in my opinion

It is, however, good to get a feel for what the car is likely to do before any changes are made, as those changes (especially power increase) will only make potential problems even worse, and the tuning can be planned before any parts are installed.
 
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I apologize if this comes off wrong but I don't see how this is ALL my fault when Nismo replied to my post with this:



I understand it might have gotten out of hand on my part but I don't quite follow how it's my fault. I honestly don't mean to be rude. I just don't follow.

All about common sense with which quite a few people seem to be lacking (I too admit I lack common sense at times). Someones wanting to learn to drift so you throw them a suggestion of a full tuned Supra and RX7 on Comfort hards lowered as much as possible. If they are just learning, they dont need 500-600hp in a 1000kg Chassis, thats just ridiculous and is going to cause much more frustration in most cases. As was said earlier:

'Protege', drifters should not learn by throwing horsepower at the problem, and should start in a nice friendly low power JDM car (FC, Supra, S13/14/15) with a simple diff tune (5,30,30 / 60,60,60 / 5,60,60) and learn from there. (Comfort hards all the way!)

Try not to boast about how good you think you are, drifting's not about that.


You dont need power to drift, and definatly not as much as you were suggesting. No need to abuse me, I really didnt see you going off at the others who were expressing views that rivaled yours...

In your response to the "I ran a GTP Drift school, I know what Im on about" I do base drift tunes for a group in the tuning forum, doesnt mean I know everything there is to know about tuning for drift... Its 🤬 like you that annoy me with your "Ive done this so I know it all" attitude...
 
Of course it's not but it's stupid to drift a stock car in my opinion. And I mean on the game & on real life.

Don't call opinions openly 'stupid' if you understand that others have that opinion, a bit rude don't you think?

When I started to learn the DFGT, I genuinely brought a 100% stock FC Rx-7 and took it to Tsukuba. I learnt so much by doing lap after lap, and I feel it's the way most wheel drifters should try learning.
 
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