T500, G27, or save up for a CSW?

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Hi guys,

Sorry if this is something that's been posted a lot about, I'm just still kinda confused on what to get.

I'm planning on buying a new wheel, and I've already put an order in for a T500 RS, although it's arriving in 10 days and I'm thinking if I should get a G27 or CSW.

It's mainly a wheel for GT5, but I also play a lot of older games like GRID and GT4 (I have an old PS3)

I've found out that the CSW can pretend to be a G25/27 to work with the PS3, would this also work with the older games, and would that make it an option as well?

Thanks in advance for your replies :)
 
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Hi guys,

Sorry if this is something that's been posted a lot about, I'm just still kinda confused on what to get.

I'm planning on buying a new wheel, and I've already put an order in for a T500 RS, although it's arriving in 10 days and I'm thinking if I should get a G27 or CSW.

It's mainly a wheel for GT5, but I also play a lot of older games like GRID and GT4 (I have an old PS3)

I've found out that the CSW can pretend to be a G25/27 to work with the PS3, would this also work with the older games, and would that make it an option as well?

Thanks in advance for your replies :)
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The CSW didn't work on the PS2 with GT4, so I have my doubts about it working on the PS3 with GT4. Have never thought about trying it on my old FAT PS3 with card reader.

The T500 won't work with older games like Shift 1 and 2, etc.

So each has its merits, but both are great wheels. If I had to give a comparison in how the FFB feels... the T500 is vert sharp in FFB effcts, while the Fanatec wheels or more fluffy/wooly/dampened. The T500 has a quicker wheel rotation speed and has more power/torque due to having belts that can't slip, whereas the CSW's belts slip ever so slightly under high torque strain (as they do in car). But the maximum power output of the T500 is slightly higher too.

As for the belt difference. The T500 belt design is used for timing belts in cars (which are not allowed to slip or it could destroy the engine), whereas the CSW belt design is used for accessories (like A/C and power steering) in cars (which are allowed to slip).

What you want to do is up to you though, but the CSW is a lot more expensive. It's up to you to consider if it is worth it or not.
 
Logiforce do you use the gt or f1 rim in yor comparison? When yor csw was fresh was the t500rs still faster and stronger using the f1 rim? I assume the csw is smoother to turn?

Compability should be a plus. Dont remember much issues there with the porsche line. But you can afford a g27 or something as backup wheel for what you save on not buying the great looking csw :)
 
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Logiforce do you use the gt or f1 rim in yor comparison? When yor csw was fresh was the t500rs still faster and stronger using the f1 rim? I assume the csw is smoother to turn?

Compability should be a plus. Dont remember much issues there with the porsche line. But you can afford a g27 or something as backup wheel for what you save on not buying the great looking csw :)
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The T500 is faster than the CSW hands-down, but like you noticed it comes at a price. In this case the T500 has more resistance from the motor in comparison to the CSW motors.
When you'd undo the small belt in the CSW it turns as if there is no resistance at all, so all resistance in the CSW comes from the motors. I haven't tried this with the T500 though.
Also there is more of a notchy/cogging feel with the T500, but only slightly. So I think the smoothness difference is simply because of the magnet size difference.
But yeah, the cogging can also be masked by the different typed of belts used as well as causing the fluffy feeling.
 
Thanks for the suggestions! I have a DFGT that I use on and off these days (mainly because it's gotten a little bit old) so I'll probably use that as my backup for other games if i wanted to.

I'm guessing that the FFB isn't chalk and cheese, so I'll probably end up having a bit of a "Umm, ahh" thing going on" :)
 
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Hmmm, I think it is as different as chalk and cheese.
The issue is what feeling do you prefer? A more dampened and smooth one (Fanatec, or a sharp and direct one (Thrustmaster).

I wouldn't even consider the G27 to be honest. Basically because of the center deadzone Logitech build in to counter the oscilation of gear driven wheels. So you wouldn't feel anything around center, which you will with the CSW and T500.
 
I think if it was for more of a realistic feel, I'd rather get a CSW. Also, I'm assuming that on both the clutch works with the paddle shifters?
 
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I think if it was for more of a realistic feel, I'd rather get a CSW. Also, I'm assuming that on both the clutch works with the paddle shifters?
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To be totally honest. The CSW feels more real as a car with power steering, and the T500 for cars without power steering. Not that this answer will solve your quest. Most will think of the CSW as more realistic as they will remember only or more vividly how a power steered car drives. (I doubt there are many in the young generation who have driven a car without)

The clutch on both is just an independent slider/axis (as with the G27) and can be assigned independently just like the throttle and brake pedals or any button on the wheel.
So what I am saying is that there is no relation between the pedals and paddle shifters other than what the developers build into a game, which is beyond control of the wheel manufacturer.
 

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