How do you guys drive an AWD??

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You hit accelerator, go, and brake and turn.

What AWD? track? Tyres?
 
I tend to drive an AWD the same way as a FF,FR,MR or RR. I drive it like I stole it.
 
AWD just means you have a little more grip on exit. It can cause some under steer but nothing you wouldn't experience in a normal FF car. If you have a variable torque sensor then you can easily dial out that understeer.

Otherwise you'd drive it more or less the same as a MR or FR. Slow in, fast out. Smoothness is key. The biggest difference I've notice is you don't need to have quite as much finess on the throttle as there's so much more grip on hard throttle that it's more forgiving. However if alot of the torque is going to the front wheels, you'll have to be careful as heavy throttle application can cause your car to understeer.

Hope that helps.
 
In a serious manner, I would buy the torque sensing center differential and tweak it to about 30/70. For LSDs, I usually set it to
Torque: 15/25
Acceleration: 30/50
Deceleration: 10/15
If you're running a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo, keep the AYC in and tweak it to about 31 or 32.
Lastly if the engine's in the front, put the brakes at 6/7. For the rear, set it to 6/5.
Hope I helped. ;)
 
AWD just means you have a little more grip on exit.

Precisely.

The only difference you'll find between an FR and a front engine 4WD is the additional grip on exit and that due to the front wheels being driven you don't want to be moving the wheel around much..

Keep your wheel/stick pointed in the direction you're going and you'll be fine, it may even help you eliminate some unnecessary steering inputs that you've picked up while driving an FR 👍
 
My preference is to set rear a little stiffer than the front as I prefer a tail happy car as I find it quicker to throw into the corners.
 
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Rally Driving Basics
although i know most of the members like GT cars and race cars i still think there will be some of you which will be interested in this article ,

so here are the Rally Driving Basics :

Rally Driving: the Basics.

Driving a rally car is, of course, a lot like driving a normal car: steering wheel for left and right, throttle for faster, brake for slower, clutch for shifting and all that. But the similarity is only skin deep. For example, I do a lot of steering with the throttle and brake (sometimes simultaneously), a lot of braking by making the car slide, and I use my left foot on the brake pedal and only use the clutch once per rally stage. Curious as to how this all works? Read on.

SLIDING FRICTION: The thing that sets rallying apart from most other types of driving is that we are racing under conditions of dynamic (sliding) friction instead of static (gripping) friction. This means that the fast way to drive on a slippery gravel or snowy road is very different than on a sticky race track, or even on the street. For example, if you stand on the brakes on a gravel road or on asphalt, a lot of the car’s weight will transfer to the front wheels and all four wheels may lock up. On asphalt with gripping friction, the best technique is to brake as hard as possible while not locking up the wheels, using the tire within its (static) friction circle and maintaining directional control. But on gravel the static friction circle is very small (there’s not much traction) and threshold braking in a straight line is not very effective. On gravel, it is much more effective to throw the car sideways, use the sidewalls of the tires as one part of the braking force, and feather the brakes for the other part of the braking force – then you’re using the tires in two directions simultaneously, and you’re misaligning the rear wheels from the fronts as you slide so that they get more bite on a fresh surface too. So we don’t just slide around to look cool – sliding is, among other things, an effective traction tool under conditions of dynamic friction.



TURNING: On the street or the racetrack, you choose where you want to apex the corner and you steer smoothly through that point. In rally, we want the car to follow essentially that same path, but we want to do it while sliding with the wheels pointed more or less straight ahead relative to the car. We want to slide during a corner for several reasons: first, as in braking, the static friction circle is very low and we want to use the sidewalls of the tires to take some of the lateral forces of the corner. Second, on a slippery surface a car that is already sliding is easier to control (see below) than a car that is gripping but may break into a slide at any moment. Third, and especially with an AWD car, you want to use the engine’s power through the wheels to “claw” your way in towards the apex of the turn – if you’ve even seen a dog try to take off on a shiny floor or on ice you get the idea. For the scientists: you want the linear accelerative vector to point inside the arc of the car through the corner to compensate for the momentum drawing the car to the outside. Under static friction (on a race track) the lateral grip of the tires does this work, while under dynamic friction we use the clawing of the wheels in a forward direction to do some of this work.

WEIGHT BALANCE: Herein lies the real secret of fast rally driving: the art of shifting weight between the front and rear axles. When you’re sliding a car on a slippery surface, steering inputs are much less effective than they are on asphalt. But transferring the car’s weight from one end of the car to the other has a very large effect on the direction the car will spin (or “yaw”). The technical reason for this is that you are always outside of the static friction circle when you’re sliding, and the coefficient of dynamic friction is constant. So the only way to increase traction on a given tire is to increase the weight on it, and the way to do that is with the throttle and the brake. So if you’re sliding through a corner and you want to tighten the line a little, the thing to do is not steer into the corner, but lift a bit on the throttle and apply a little brake. Weight will transfer forward, the car will turn in, slide more, slow down, and tighten the line. Conversely, if you want to open the line, apply a little throttle and let off on the brake. Weight will transfer to the rear, the car will dig in on the rear, straighten out, and open the line. Steering is still important, of course, but the balance of the car is essential. If you ski you get this feeling naturally – more weight on the balls of your feet causes the skis to turn in quickly and slide out at the tail, and more weight on your heels causes the tails to dig in and the skis to want to go straight ahead. Snowboarders, mountain bikers, and motocross racers know this feeling too. It’s all about balance.



GETTING PLAYFUL: So let’s take a high-speed left hand sweeper (like the section from the bridge to the uphill hairpin on Camp Brule at Baie-des-Chaleurs). You come in fast – maybe 80kmh after the bridge, and turn the wheel to the left a little. A stab on the brakes suddenly shifts the weight to the front wheels and lightens the rear, pitching the car into a left-hand slide. Once you’ve got it sliding, you get off the brakes and straighten the wheel, so you’re in a nice left-hand drift with the wheels clawing in towards the apex of the turn. Hold the throttle steady to keep the balance and ride out the long drift. If you’re getting a little wide (watch those concrete blocks!) lift your right foot a little and press with your left foot on the brake a little to shift weight to the front. Once the line tightens get back off the brake and hold the throttle steady. As you begin to exit the corner, get on the throttle to straighten the car out for the exit and to accelerate. Whoo-hoo!! You did it! You’re probably still going 80kmh. And all the steering you did was a little left twitch before the corner began in order to start the slide.

GETTING FANCY – THE PENDULUM: Some corners are really tight, and you’re not going to get the car to yaw around them enough with the normal technique described above. If you try to turn in really hard you’ll probably understeer off the outside, and even a normal drift may not be tight enough. Don’t reach for the handbrake. Instead, do a “pendulum” turn, or a “Scandinavian Flick.” By turning the car into a slide away from the corner and then snapping it around to slide in the right direction for the corner, you will transition the car more quickly than if you just turned in alone. Here’s how you do it, for a left-hand pendulum: 1. start on the inside of the approach road, or at least with enough room to snap out wide. 2. turn right - away from the corner – and touch the brakes to initiate a right-hand slide. Use this slide to scrub off some speed – as we said above, use it as your braking. 3. turn the wheel left – into the corner – and punch the throttle for a second. This will transfer weight to the rear wheels and cause the car to snap (yaw) hard to the left. 4. straighten the wheel as the car snaps left and balance the throttle to hold your left-hand slide. As above, adjust with throttle and brake as necessary to shift weight. 5. As with a normal corner, get on the throttle as you want to straighten out and accelerate to victory!

Once you get really good, you will use these techniques together: the left hand drift through the sweeper at Camp Brule that I describe above is actually the first swing of the pendulum for the uphill right hairpin immediately afterward. When you start linking corners together like this you’ll be a pro, and I’ll get out of your way.

REAR-WHEEL DRIVE: All of the above applies very well for front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive, and the weight balance issues apply to all drive layouts. But as everyone reading this probably knows, hard acceleration on a rear-wheel drive car usually causes it to throttle steer and “slide out” or turn on a sharper angle, overcoming the effect of weight transfer to the rear under acceleration. On gravel, this is a weakness of RWD cars, and you’ll notice that very few leading rally cars are RWD as a result. In the Good Old Days, of course, most rally cars were RWD, and they required a light touch to get the slides right. The technique is different – it looks great, but it’s not that fast.

HANDBRAKES: The handbrake on the rear wheels is a destabiliser. I don’t like it too much because it pitches a car into a slide without shifting much weight to the front wheels and so in a high-speed drift it can be unpredictable. However, if you’re about to go off the road, or if you have a very tight corner and not enough speed or room to initiate a pendulum, then you can consider pulling the handbrake. If you have a hydraulic handbrake with a long lever, like mine, you can have a little more control. But it’s a blunt tool. Note that AWD cars with viscous centre differentials (i.e. almost all of them) will not allow you to use the handbrake for the rear wheels only – the diff will lock and you’ll be braking all four wheels, but not with much force. You’ve been warned.

LEFT FOOT BRAKING: You’ll note that I mentioned using the left foot on the brake pedal. There are several reasons for this, but the most important is that you shave a fraction of a second off the transition time from throttle to brake, which is very significant when you’re playing the throttle and brake off each other as described above for weight balance. When you’re sliding, the two pedals are more like the rudder of an airplane than they are like throttle and brake (now you know why McGeer is so good!). Of course, if you have a normal gearbox then you may have to take your left foot away to do some shifting, although if you’re very good at your rev-matching you may be able to get away with clutchless downshifts, which will improve your times and your safety margin a lot, as you can keep your left foot balancing the brake. Now you see the advantage of a “dogbox” that has no synchros and needs no clutch for shifting: although the shifts are indeed a little faster, the key is that you can keep your left foot on the brake all the time for more control. Once you dump the clutch on the start line you’re done with it until the finish.

FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE: I’ve left discussion of this until this point because you need to understand left-foot braking and handbrakes to understand an interesting aspect of FWD rally cars and why they can be very fast: with FWD, left-foot braking can work like a handbrake, without the disadvantage of not shifting weight forward. Confused? Think of it this way: using the throttle and brake at the same time on a FWD car is exactly the opposite of doing a brakestand with a RWD car: with FWD you can keep the front wheels spinning (with the engine overpowering the brakes) and slow down or lock up the rears. So as you enter a corner and want to initiate a slide, you can turn the direction you want to go and then apply the brakes while you hold the throttle – the weight will transfer forward (better than with the handbrake, as the front wheels will slow down a little) and your left foot now has control over the speed differential between the front and rear wheels. You can pretty much make a FWD car turn around its nose this way, and this is the reason that no FWD rally car should ever have to worry about understeer. With my ex-factory Lada, you would basically never lift the throttle and just use the brake according to how tight any corner was. It was fantastic. And it’s why many front-wheel drive cars from the Saab 96 to the Mini Cooper to the VW Golf have been great rally cars, and on slippery surfaces far superior to their RWD competition. Now you know.

So to review some of the counter-intuitive things about rally driving under sliding friction: 1. Sliding is very effective for braking and for turning, 2. you steer with the throttle and brake, transferring weight rearward and forward (respectively) as necessary to control the slides, 3. you use your left foot on the brake so that you can play the throttle and brake against each other, like the rudder of an airplane, 4. if you have a FWD car you use the left foot on the brake to control the speed difference between the front and rear wheels, and 4. if you’re getting faster than me, you slow down!



A couple of other little known techniques:

JUMPS: The biggest problem with jumps is that almost every car wants to fly nose-down. If you’re slowing down or braking on the take-off, you will definitely land on your nose. So you want to be accelerating at the launch. For even the biggest flat-out jumps, like the big one at Baie, I stab the brakes and get back on the throttle just before the launch so that the car takes off “nose up” – this is, as they say, the only way to fly. Also (and not many people know this), you want to land with each wheel at a fractionally different moment – if you’ve ever seen a cat land you’ve seen this effect at work. In a car, you want all the shocks to be on a different harmonic rate – if you compress them all at exactly the same moment they will all bounce back at the same moment and you’ll get a bonus second jump after you bottom out. I don’t know why cats land that way, actually.

BUMPS AND DIPS: Mogul skiers get this principle: if turning is all about weight transfer, then the easiest time to turn is when the terrain gives you a natural transfer, as over a crest or bump. Try to plan your transitions for the moment that the car naturally unweights – it will be almost effortless to get around. Conversely, in big dips or troughs, you’ll have a lot more traction, which means that compression areas are excellent places to use heavy brakes and more steering input.

WATER SPLASHES: You walk a tightrope with these. Like jumps, you want to be accelerating through them to keep the nose up. You want to go fast enough to have enough momentum to carry you to the other side. But you don’t want to go so fast that you splash water into the air intake or onto the coils. You can try to waterproof these areas a little, but your best bet is to go into the splash medium-fast, nose up.
 
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It really depends on the car. Not all AWD cars behave the same. Say for example, you'll not drive the Audi R8 5.2 the same way you'll drive an RS6. The R8 tends to oversteer a bit, which is nice. With the RS6 you have to watch out with the understeer.

I usually put a center dif and adjust most of the traction at the rear wheels to make the car a bit loose in the rear. I really don't like the feel of AWD cars, to be honest; too much understeer in most cases.
 
Conversely, I’m used to FWD, myself. I blew the dust off my Impreza and took it for a spin on Top Gear Test Track. With torque distribution 50/50 (as frontmost as it’ll let me set it), it handles pretty much like FWD, or at least it seems to tolerate being driven like one (trail-braking for steering traction, etc); though the added RWD aspect means I can’t push it too hard or it’ll start to squirm; but the front wheels keep it in check enough that a firm tug on the leash will bring it back to my heel, rather than having to go chase it down the street.
And that’s with 50/50 distribution, so I’m guessing it’ll tolerate being driven RWD-style too? And you can make it even more RWD-ward than that.

The main thing I noticed, though, is that it has tremendous traction: I was running Comfort Hards and it felt like Sports Hards. This is because it can bring all four wheels’ traction to bear, and (assuming 50/50 split) each one only has to support half the torque compared to a 2WD vehicle (the engine’s output is spread out over 4 wheels, not just 2), so you should be able to get away with being more aggressive with the accelerator.
Of course, once the tires start to screech, you’re about to lose all of them and slide outright, rather than merely running suboptimally; so in terms of traction, it tends to be all-or-nothing, but that “all” is quite a lot!

Even so, breaking traction on all four wheels tends to result in a more predictable slide than losing just the fronts or just the backs. At that point, any Rally/dirt/snow driving experience (see OdeFinn’s giant quoted post 👍) will suddenly become very relevant on tarmac!

With a non-50/50 split, the rear wheels will get more torque and thus will be subject to torque spin sooner, so with careful throttle management (and probably having to watch the tachometer too, in light of the engine’s torque output at different RPMs), you can still probably kick the back end loose, RWD-style, while still having powered front wheels that can pull it back in line (assuming you keep them pointed where you’re trying to go), giving some stability.

So, with a touch of experience and a lot of thought (and reading that Rally driving post), that’s where I am with 4WD.

Bottom line: Take what knowledge you gather here, and go throw it around the track, see what happens, and think about why it does that. Share your experience here and we can comment on it.
 
So, with a touch of experience and a lot of thought (and reading that Rally driving post), that’s where I am with 4WD.

Bottom line: Take what knowledge you gather here, and go throw it around the track, see what happens, and think about why it does that. Share your experience here and we can comment on it.

Toke easy way and quoted good "guide", instead of writing it all again. :)

Beginners should try to master 4wd car with less grippy tires, something like 300hp and under with Comfort series tires and above 300hp on Sports series tires, too much grip makes learning hard.
Center diff between 35/65 to 50/50, prefer closer that 50/50 for learning.

When understanding how it goes/works then you should have enough knowledge to set LSD values to suit your driving style.
 
I took the Impreza to a different course (a long, winding Custom one). Driving it faster and through a greater variety of turns, I definitely feel more of its two-spirit nature. It seems to be a mixture of FWD and RWD driving (slide-happy like RWD but stable like FWD). At its best, it fuses them into something greater than the sum of its parts.

A characteristic feature of this driving so far: When it does slide, the course temporarily turns into a dirt/snow track.

For example, sliding around a corner, I can aim the car inside the turn and use acceleration – rather than traction – to keep the car going around the turn rather than in a straight line. (Thus, I’m basically going through the turn sideways. :D) When I feel that the slide is about to end, I can steer the front wheels to point down the road, and they’ll pull the rear wheels along once they get ahold of the road again.
More simply, just steer more than you would under a non-sliding turn, let the front wheels pull the car to the inside. When you’re sliding, you’re flying through space; you want to orbit around some point on the inside of the turn, and your task as driver is to make gravity happen by accelerating toward it.

It’s actually kinda fun, like brake-sliding in a FWD. Appropriately enough, FWD is a solid drivetrain for dirt/snow tracks too, for the same reason. So, I think it’s a good idea to take a 4WD or FWD vehicle for a spin on a dirt/snow track: basically, you’re sliding all the time, and once you get a feel for that, you’ll be more comfortable handling slides in 4WD on tarmac.

And yes, like OdeFinn said, start out with low-grip tires. I’ll recommend Comfort Hard outright: my 400 HP Impreza rolls just fine on them! They really bring out all the little details of how the vehicle behaves at the limits of traction, and this can teach you (A) How to handle it when it does lose traction, and (B) How to walk the line between traction and sliding... whether to avoid crossing it, or to merrily prance right over it. :dopey:

So, that’s your homework assignment for today. Go romp around on some dirt and snow tracks (refer to the Big Quoted Rally Post for advice), then take your 4WD to a road course with Comfort Hard tires and poke it in different ways and see what happens. For example, trailbraking (turning while braking) and what I call “anchor” turning (braking while accelerating) both seem to be fairly reliable ways to get a 4WD to slide, which you can then play around with.

As for me, I’m starting to like 4WD. It’s like RWD done right, and it’s growing on me in a way RWD never did.
 
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