To Heydu

In Tomhrmns' Beetle thread you offered more information on how to edit the car ini file to make changes beyond the capabilities of MK's program. Other tidbits of info that you offered either directly to me or in other threads about the ini have also been most helpful. I was wondering if there was a guide available on what could be changed in the ini and what the effects of inserting certain values into the ini would have on the car.

For example, I know from your reply to my question that changing line 476 to -1 resets the mileage of your car to 0.0 and changing line 480 to -1 gives the car the full break-in hp.

I have seen other threads that listed what each line of the ini affects but I think it would be more helpful if explanations were also included on what values to change those lines to and then what the resultant change to the car would be.

If this type of guide exists I would appreciate it very much if you could tell me where to get it. If not, would you consider writing one?

I don't believe I've ever seen anything like that. Werner did post one that covered some of the items, I believe it was in the "best hybrids" thread. I will take a stab at it when I get a chance, but there are only a few lines in the ini that it even makes sense to adjust IMO.

Great! Yes, to make it easier on you limit it to those lines that can't otherwise be changed in the MK program. Here's another idea if you're struggling to find the time to do it. We could start a thread detailing the secrets of the ini file. I'll keep track of the contributions from those who would be interested in helping out and you could serve as the "controlling legal authority" (to quote Al Gore) to make sure the contributions are correct. Comments?

Well you edit things in the Notpad that you cant edit in MKS directly. Like the shine code. You cant change the shine in MKS, you have to open the file in Notepad and change the number. The same goes for the Power Multiplier...

OK, here is a start. I edited the ini/guide posted by Werner Winkels to add some more info. If anyone has additional info to add, post it and I will edit my post.


[GT3CarData]
Region= EU (Region= EU for PAL-Game) (Region= US for NTSC- Game)
BaseFile= File-Name
BaseName= Wagen-Name
0= Car Base Part 1
4= Car Base Part 2
8= Color Part 1
12= Color Part 2
16= Zulassung / Wagen-Art Part 1 ( 2=Race 1=Road )
20= -Zulassung / Wagen-Art Part 2
24= Brakes Part 1
28= Brakes Part 2
32= Brake Controllor Part 1
36= Brake Controllor Part 2
40= Chassis Part 1
44= Chassis Part 2
48= Engine Part 1
52= Engine Part 2
56= Drivetrain & VCD Part 1
60= Drivetrain & VCD Part 1
64= Transmission Part 1
68= Transmission Part 2
72= Suspension Part 1
76= Suspension Part 2
80= LSD Part 1
84= LSD Part 1
88= Front Tyres Part 1
92= Front Tyres Part 2
96= Rear Tyres Part 1
100= Raer Tyres Part 2
104= 17 ?? Part 1
108= 17 ?? Part 2
112= Weight Reduction Part 1
116= Weight Reduction Part 2
120= Body & DF Part 1
124= Body & DF Part 2
128= Polish Part 1
132= Polish Part 2
136= Balance Part 1
140= Balance Part 2
144= Displacement part 1
148= Displacement part 2
152= Computer Part 1
156= Computer Part
160= N\A Tune Part 1
164= N\A Tune Part 2
168= Turbo Part 1
172= Turbo Part 2
176= Flywheel Part 1
180= Flywheel Part 2
184= Clutch Part 1
188= Clutch Part 2 ...Remember that the value in the ini is 1 greater
192= Shaft Part 1 ....than the value in the game, so for instance to
196= Shaft Part 2 ....set the front DF to 250, you would set line
200= Muffler Part 1 ..292=-251. In cases where there is a decimal point
204= Muffler Part 2 ..such as gear ratios and spring rate, don't use
208= Intercooler Part 1 ...them in the ini, so a gear ratio of 1.635
212= Intercooler Part 2 ...would be entered as -1636
216= ASM Part 1
220= ASM Part 2
224= TCS Part 1
228= TCS Part 2
232= Wheels Part 1
236= Wheels Part 2 ___________________________________________
240= >R Gear ..Anything from this point down can be adjusted in the ini
244= >1 Gear ..but generally you would only change settings that you
248= >2 Gear ..can't change in the game, unless you wish to set things
252= >3 Gear ..outside the bounds of the game settings.
256= >4 Gear
260= >5 Gear ..For instance, you may wish to set the gear ratios here
264= >6 Gear ..if your using the car in a "normal car race" and so can
268= >7 Gear ..not buy an adjustable tranny. The same would apply for
272= >Final Drive ..suspension settings.
276= >Auto Gear
280= >VCD
284= Front Brake Adjust..These could be adjusted to a very high value
288= Rear Brake Adjust..like 100, which may help at high speed.

292= Front DF..DF settings really depend on the amount of HP and how
296= Rear DF...how an individual likes the car to handle. Generally
...............between -110 and -210 for moderate HP, and you might
...............try 0 or -251 for high HP or tighter handling.
300= Turbo 1
304= Turbo 2 ..As I understand it, Turbo 1-6 will adjust the percentage
308= Turbo 3 ..of turbo boost you will get in each gear. Not having
312= Turbo 4 ..messed with it myself, i can't comment any more than
316= Turbo 5 ..that.
320= Turbo 6
324= Front Camber
328= Rear Camger
332= Front Ride Height..The minimum setting here is -1(0 ride height)
336= Rear Ride Height ..The max is -251 (a monster rally car)
340= Front Toe
344= Rear Toe
348= Front Springs..A high setting here will obviously stiffen the ride
352= Rear Springs ..and can improve handling on the tarmac. A low
....................setting often works well on rally cars. I will
....................often use -2 on my rally cars, which is equal to
.................___.1lbs of spring rate, and combine it with high
.....................ride height.
356= Front Grip ( If the value to high, the screen begins to woble )
360= Rear Grip ( If the value to high, the screen begins to woble )
364= Front Bound
368= Front Bound
372= Front Rebound ..For bound and rebound, I often use below game
376= Front Rebound ..settings for my rally cars
380= Rear Bound
384= Rear Bound
388= Rear Rebound
392= Rear Rebound
396= Front Stabilizer
400= Rear Stabilizer
404= Front LSD Init
408= Rear LSD Init
412= Front LSD Accel
416= Rear LSD Accel
420= Front LSD Decel
424= Rear LSD Decel
428= Final Drive
432= TCS
436= ???
440= horse power modifier ( a Value from -1001 =HPx1 )
( A Value from -2001 = HPx2 ) ( A Value from -501 = HPx0.5 )
444= ASM
448= Driver A/MT
452= Driver ASM
456= Driver TCS
460= ???
464= Fittment 1
468= Fittment 2..Eliminating fittment values will allow any car to
472= Fittment 3..rally
476= Travel Meter ...a value of -1 sets milage to zero
480= Oil 1 ..a value of -1 means the engine is broken in
484= Oil 2 ..a value of 929924095 means oil is changed
488= shine of car ..a value of 0 or -0 is "super shine"
492= ???
496= ???
500= ???
504= ???

A great start as a matter of fact. A quick glance at it gave me some ideas but I don't have the time to post them at the moment. Thanks again.

If I could request a few clarifications:

Lines 284 and 288 are listed as front brakes part 1 and front brakes part 2. Shouldn’t this be 284 = front brakes and 288 = rear brakes?

Lines 292 and 296, front and rear downforce: I presume that a value of 0 means maximum downforce. Does a value of –1 have any special meaning or is it just a very small amount of downforce?

Lines 332 and 336, front and rear ride height: If -1 = 0 ride height, would a value of 0 give some other result?

Line 440, horsepower modifier: I’m not sure that I understand what you’re explaining.

What I’m doing is working on a different format for the ini explanations and I’ll post it here for comments. Getting the above clarified will help to make it a bit more complete.

Thanks

OK, I fixed the brake lines,

For DF, -1 would equal zero DF

As for the ride height, setting it to -0 or 0 will revert to the max height of -251

For the HP modifier, basically when U start with a new car it is set at -1. A value of -1001=HPx1 so there is basically no change, -2001=HPx2, -3501=HPx3.5, -501=HPx.5

Thanks, Heydu. I have more questions but instead of bothering you I decided to mess around with the ini for myself to find the answers. Hell, discovering new things is why I'm doing this whole hybrid scene in the first place.

OK, and if U want, feel free to Email or PM me.

Here's a few interesting tidbits that I found while playing around with the ini file, with the intent to eventually generate a basic ini guide. For the ride height lines, 332 and 336, only line 332 affects how the car will look in the game. You can put in whatever value you want in line 336, but the game will draw the car based on the value that you have in line 332. Your handling will still be affected by what you enter in line 336, however. I was a little disappointed that this is the case actually because I discovered this while trying to "rake" my car by having the back end higher than the front end, but no such luck.

Also, the maximum height value that can be put in the ini is -256, which translates to a ride height of 255mm. If you set lines 332 and 336 to -257 the car goes back to 0 ride height and then starts lifting until you get back to the maximum ride height again at -512. Why you would want to put in values greater than -256 I have no idea but there you have it anyway.