Question about Driving Etiquette

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When someone is going for the pass, is it normal in real-world racing that the leading car blocks them or allows them to take there line?

I don't know the particulars about real world racing.

To me it would seem "Smart" to block so you keep your position...But if its not how normal racing is handled in the real world then i'll start yielding my position.
 
It all depends, say your on Daytona Oval, and the guy coming behind you is FLYING past you, I let them go... but if they only have me by a few MPH I block...
 
MasterDriver
When someone is going for the pass, is it normal in real-world racing that the leading car blocks them or allows them to take there line?

I don't know the particulars about real world racing.

To me it would seem "Smart" to block so you keep your position...But if its not how normal racing is handled in the real world then i'll start yielding my position.
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You do not have to yield a racing line unless a car has any part of it alongside any part of yours.

If their nose is not alongside your tail and you turn in and brake, any incident of contact is their fault. If their nose is alongside your tail - or further - and you turn in and brake, any incident of contact is your fault.
 
I will not change my line. If you can get past, feel free, and I'll try and get you back later. I will never move to block.
 
I'd say hold your line but don't go to erratic lengths to block the person trying to pass.

I've seen people trying to block excessively resulting in spin outs/accidents leading to severe loss in position.
 
Blocking makes up the best kind of race duels on the circuit, but only if both drivers are racing at the same speed and its on tight corners, anything else is usually totally out of line.
If someone is trying to overtake and they are going far, far faster than you, then it is stupid to try and block them. Hence why blocking on straights is not advised.
However, once it gets to tight corners like, for example, Suzuka, blocking is fine, if you're good enough to do it, than by all means try, but it usually means losing the racing line.

Then again, its all very circumstantial. The best thing is to watch some real life races, you can easily tell what is wrong and what is right. Sometimes both drivers are to blame sometimes neither are. I still maintain that blocking should be fine on tight corners, some of the best duels ive seen in F1 have been on the tighter circuits with much blocking.
 
I always let them past - especially if they are bombing it! There is no point trying to defend an unassailable position. Stupid, and immature blocking is totally pointless, and causes nothing but animosity between racers. 👍

If there is a car side by side with me (and I have had a good battle with them), I will intentionally yield as a sign of respect for that driver. I do this quite often, as IMO, winning is not as important to me, as the chase to get there. As far as I am aware, I'm the only driver that does this, though (as I'm regularly proven wrong around here ;)), someone will surely pipe up and say otherwise! 👍 :lol:
 
magburner
I always let them past - especially if they are bombing it! There is no point trying to defend an unassailable position. Stupid, and immature blocking is totally pointless, and causes nothing but animosity between racers. 👍

If there is a car side by side with me (and I have had a good battle with them), I will intentionally yield as a sign of respect for that driver. I do this quite often, as IMO, winning is not as important to me, as the chase to get there. As far as I am aware, I'm the only driver that does this, though (as I'm regularly proven wrong around here ;)), someone will surely pipe up and say otherwise! 👍 :lol:
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That can actually be far more advantageous in the long-rung. I've let quite a few rookie drivers or punters by me, and they end-up entering the next turn too hot, or I just pass them at an easier point.
 
MasterDriver
When someone is going for the pass, is it normal in real-world racing that the leading car blocks them or allows them to take there line?

I don't know the particulars about real world racing.

To me it would seem "Smart" to block so you keep your position...But if its not how normal racing is handled in the real world then i'll start yielding my position.
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In Formula 1 I'm pretty sure the rule is you can change your line ONCE to block but you are not allowed to change your line more than once. For example if someone is trying to pass on the inside you can move down to block but if they move to the outisde you cannot change your line again.

In NASCAR blocking isn't really that big of a deal because it is so easy to pass but I'm sure they don't tolerate weaving your car back and forth.

In Indycars if you consistantly take a defensive line into corners or chop the nose of drivers off they will warn you about it and eventually black flag you if you continue
 
As a professional backmarker in PC simracing I usually just hold my line and let the faster driver pass me. If he/she is good enough they should have no problems passing me. On the other hand if they are inexperienced, they often overcook and ends up in the gravel trap.
 
MasterDriver
But this is really in regards to REAL LIFE racing... Not really "What do you do" kinda thing.
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Hence my answer:

Famine
You do not have to yield a racing line unless a car has any part of it alongside any part of yours.

If their nose is not alongside your tail and you turn in and brake, any incident of contact is their fault. If their nose is alongside your tail - or further - and you turn in and brake, any incident of contact is your fault.
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m00ndancer
As a professional backmarker
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:lol:
 
So basically I Changing your line once, seems like the "Legal" thing to do. And if they are beside you you have to yield that line. I'll start doing this. :D Although i dont play online cause it SUCKS!@#! lol. they need SERVER HOSTS! make it like warhawk !!! Server hosts with P2P Private race options
 
SnakeCL
That can actually be far more advantageous in the long-rung. I've let quite a few rookie drivers or punters by me, and they end-up entering the next turn too hot, or I just pass them at an easier point.
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That's basically the long and short of it, but I personally let them past because I race better when I'm close behind someone. You can gain more if they wipe out or make a mistake. 👍
 
magburner
That's basically the long and short of it, but I personally let them past because I race better when I'm close behind someone. You can gain more if they wipe out or make a mistake. 👍
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I feel the same, I do my best racing pressing the other driver into a mistake if I can, and pass when safe if not then I settle for whatever position I'm in instead of taking the risk crashing or running into sand traps taking me totally out of the race
 
I don’t consider intentional blocking acceptable. While in front, you do have the right to choose whatever line you prefer entering the oncoming corner. Moving in front of someone to take that line is ok even if you are slower, but make that decision known so they have time to react. If they’re faster and potentially able to get beside you on the outside of the turn, it’s your responsibility to anticipate the possibility of giving enough room while exiting the turn. Give and take is the most exciting part of racing.
Besides, online racing is difficult enough without someone trying to own the whole width of the track while in the lead.
 
In my humble opinion blocking is not acceptable. Doesn't matter if you "only" do it once. I find it a very dishonorable way to keep your opponents behind you. 👎
 
NielsG
In my humble opinion blocking is not acceptable. Doesn't matter if you "only" do it once. I find it a very dishonorable way to keep your opponents behind you. 👎
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Great point.

What do you lose if someone passes you for the win going into the last corner?

5,000 credits less prize money?

That's about it. There is no stat keeping, no ranking, and no reason to try and block other than a measly 5,000 credits between positions
 
MasterDriver
I don't know the particulars about real world racing.

To me it would seem "Smart" to block so you keep your position...But if its not how normal racing is handled in the real world then i'll start yielding my position.
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In real world racing, you can defend your line as Famine outlines above.

Occasional minor blocking is tolerated but will get noticed. Major blocking will get you spun into the kitty litter the first time somebody thinks they can get away with it.
 
With etiquette there is something simple people need to comprehend and it will solve alot of worries. If the car gets (as mentioned here) atleast his bumper/nose section alongside you, it is time to yield the line. That includes if you have forced him to the outside of the corner already, do not be a turd and try and exit wide and force him off when you know there is no room.

Another thing many ignore....when you have bobbled or gone off course it really is not necessary to hurry up and throw your car in front of somebody that is at full racing speed just to slow them down. Chances are the differential in speed between the two of you will just lead to a crash.


People need to understand we are racing for fun, not the last lap of the Indy 500.

The problem with GT5P is that the races are too short so patience and respect is not rewarded.....especially with no means of communication besides the "chrome horn".
 
Weaving is a big no-no, as is violent blocking. As someone mentioned, F1 has a "one-move" policy but even this can be a bit of a grey area depending how violent the move is.

In the game, I never block someone deliberately, and the only time I'll make a move to cover myself is on the finishing straight if someone is in the slipstream and might get me on the line. Even then I don't just ram across like many seem to.
 
In the real world it depends on the race, in F1 you're allowed to make one move to block, and if you make a second then they penalize you. In nascar however, it's open season on blocking.
 
BonzoHarry
In the real world it depends on the race, in F1 you're allowed to make one move to block, and if you make a second then they penalize you. In nascar however, it's open season on blocking.
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Not necessarily for NASCAR.....excessive moving/blocking especially on restrictor plate tracks can have you pulled from the field and sent to the "Nextel trailer"

In NASCAR however on the larger ovals there is very little in the sense of giving up your line, you only move out of the way when you are not on speed such as when you are exiting/entering the pits.
 
Earth
In Formula 1 I'm pretty sure the rule is you can change your line ONCE to block but you are not allowed to change your line more than once. For example if someone is trying to pass on the inside you can move down to block but if they move to the outisde you cannot change your line again.

In NASCAR blocking isn't really that big of a deal because it is so easy to pass but I'm sure they don't tolerate weaving your car back and forth.

In Indycars if you consistantly take a defensive line into corners or chop the nose of drivers off they will warn you about it and eventually black flag you if you continue
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Thats right about F1. Theres no harm in defending the inside line or moving to block the inside line, but if you come inside and throw a block and then outside and throw a block going into the same corner, you'll either get a drive through or a 10sec stop and go for unsafe driving or whatever they call it. Its at the stewards discretion though, and its not always enforced. Most guys abide by it. Thats what makes monaco and hungary such difficult places to pass if you have one car taking the inside line and using the whole apex on exit. Theres really NO WAY to apex quicker from behind.

In the game I have no problem coming down the inside to the first turn at fuji to block someone, but I'll do my best to stay in that lane and only use the whole exit if I'm sure the guy is gonna be behind me on exit. If I cant tell, then I try to leave the other lane open fully so theres no contact.

I wont lie though, Ive taken the inside there before and totally over shot the **** out of the corner. It sucks, but it happens. If i take someone out then I'll pull over and let them pass. Thats racing sometimes.

-f
 
Generally in North American racing, blocking is frowned upon. In Champ Car (now defunct) you were allowed to change your line ONCE and then stay there. In Europe, it's fair game. In F1, you can block to your hearts content if you're on the same lap as the car behind.
 
slicecom
In F1, you can block to your hearts content if you're on the same lap as the car behind.
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Only if your name was Michael, and you were driving a bluey-greeney, or a red, car. Otherwise, as has been pointed out, F1 has the one move "rule" too.
 
daan
Only if your name was Michael, and you were driving a bluey-greeney, or a red, car. Otherwise, as has been pointed out, F1 has the one move "rule" too.
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Or if you were a certain Senna.......
 
daan
Only if your name was Michael, and you were driving a bluey-greeney, or a red, car. Otherwise, as has been pointed out, F1 has the one move "rule" too.
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And you're at the end of qualifying at the Rascasse corner :sly:
 

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