Engine Rebuilds and Chassis Restrengthening

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Are there any reliable guidelines as to when these should be done.

I find it incredibly frustrating that you have these incredibly expensive repairs and no real guidance as to whether they are necessary or not.
 
I've never done one. And since all my cars still seem to run fine, I won't do one. And yes, its pretty stupid that you have no idea when or if you should do them.
 
Just don't do them if you don't notice anything wrong with your car.

Had the game a fortnight and got nearly 200 cars, I switch all the time, I'm hardly going to notice changes in performance, especially if it is gradual.

I don't understand why they included this feature without any in-game information.
 
Stealth models have a cheap discount on it, around 500 cr. It really bums me out that I have to repair the engine and the chassis of my Peugeot 908 HDi fap for 500,000 cr.
 
the worst thing is chassis repair costs about the same no matter what you do with your car.

I bought the 458, did 1 lap at HSR, no crash.
chassis repair=140k.

then I bought another 458, did 1 lap at the green hell, crash at high speed very often.
chassis repair=140k

:scared:
 
I did about 1400 miles in a Veyron which admittedly was not raced as tidily as it should have been. By that time the handling felt off so I did the repair which seemed to improve the situation.

Would it have killed PD to put in a gauge to show the state of the body.

Engine rebuilds can be tricky as well. Like GT4 your new car comes with a specific amount of HP which is boosted by an immediate oil change. As you use the car the power will increase until it reaches its max (not sure of the percentage) after which it will fall to somewhere between the showroom and max figure (again I am not sure of the percentages) and stay there for a while. Am I right in assuming that after more continued use the power will begin to fall again? I suppose if engine power is down (after an essential, for any car, oil change) on the original power of the engine then a rebuild is in order.
 
Basically it comes down to this. When you find yourself saying "Man this car ain't what it used to be" then it's probably already passed the time to do something about it. But it won't hurt your wallet any more than if you had done it sooner.
 
It's really difficult to notice a gradual decrease in performance because it happens so slowly. The only real way to tell is to monitor your lap times on a given track over the lifetime of the car but even that isn't the most reliable method as times can vary depending on a number of factors.

Some kind of visual indication as to what state the car is in would have been a really simple thing to add and make a real difference
 
It has been established long ago that these have nothing to do with crashing or in game damage.

With the used cars, some of which have over 300k kilometers on them, you can see that an engine rebuild only gives a few percent increase in power. This means that an engine rebuild will never make sense from a pure money point of view.

As for the chassis thing, my guess is that this has to do with body rigidity. There are other mods in the game that affect rigidity, too, so we know it's something that is modelled in GT5. The real question, then, is how much does mileage affect the rigidity, and how much does the rigidity actually affect the handling?

Based on the small effect that the rebuild has on the engine, I would imagine that the actual benefits of a chassis rebuild are also marginal. Then again, this is dependent on how the rigidity actually affects the handling in the game. In the real world, the faster the speeds, the more rigidity should become an issue. But in Turismo, the faster the car, the more expensive it usually is, and the more expensive the rebuild, too.

Does anyone have any real idea how rigidity affects handling in GT5 (or even GT4)?
 
I never once used the "rigidity" fix in GT4 and I never plan to use it in GT5. My Minolta Toyota has been through 3 endurance races, countless laps at Indy and has tons of miles on it and it still blows the competition away with no problems at all. Unless you're trying to shave milliseconds off a time trial time there really is no reason to do it.
 
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