question on how to use manual

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Right now im on a ds3 and use auto, i know i will b faster if i use manual, but dont understand why. I used manual and i felt like it was the same as automatic except i was the one shifting. What is it that you do in manual that makes it faster, i heard about early shifting but dont understand how id gain speed from that. Is it because u can hold a gear through a turn or just shift up instead breaking? Right now i dont know how to incorporate the advantages of manual into my driving. Hope this makes sense.
 
Early shifting is a substitute for having TC off. You shift early coming out of corners (usually 2nd to 3rd) so your tires doesn't lose grip especially on wet pavement. Downshifting can help to brake your car. Then depending on the car you can gain time if you shift a little early or later than when the Auto AI shifts. If you are trying to shift the exact same time as the Auto AI then you will gain nothing from Manual. (GT5 like most games doesn't simulate automatic transmissions but rather has the AI to change them for the player at a given range)
 
You can shift at the peak power, rather than revving all the way to the redline like auto does.
 
For one, in low speed corners you can leave your car in a higher gear. With a controller it is very easy to get wheelspin if it drops to 2nd or 1st gear. Leaving it in 3rd, will eliminate the wheelspin, and save a short amount of time for not having to shift to 1st to 2nd, then from 2nd to 3rd.

Additionally, some cars have more torque and power in the middle RPM range, and it tails of significantly when you approach the redline. I specifically remember a Zonda license test in GT3 or GT4 that I couldn't pass with an AT, but once I figured out that it was faster in the middle-RPM range, and switched to Manual, I passed it with ease.
 
How can you tell what the peak rpm is?

When are good times to shift early or later, im guessing early for tight tracks and corners and late for straights to get the most out of each gear
 
Some simple basic reasons.

1. You can go higher revs in each gear which in some cars results in better acceleration

2. You can change down faster which in some cars results in better deceleration

3. Understeer and oversteer can be introduced or removed by selecting the right gear at the right time. Sometimes an auto will change when you dont want it to, causing oversteer or understeer when you dont want it.

4. Auto can change at the wrong time and sometimes cause you to lose speed.



Basically you have more control over the car, which will help you run faster laptimes with practice.
 
roylan101
How can you tell what the peak rpm is?

When are good times to shift early or later, im guessing early for tight tracks and corners and late for straights to get the most out of each gear
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the way to check where your peak hp/tq occur is when you go into the tuning menu, on the right side there is your dyno graph. it'll let you know what pwr/tq you make at what RPM, given the car is under load at wide open throttle
 
Auto shifts at the start of the red-line, with manual one can rev into the red-line and shift a few hundred revs higher gaining speed a slight bit quicker.
 
You can choose what gear you want for each corner and keep it at that instead of the auto shifting all over the place. You should never shift in the middle of a crorner and with manual transmission you can take the corner with the best gear possible for the speed you're going.
 
valleymd
For one, in low speed corners you can leave your car in a higher gear. With a controller it is very easy to get wheelspin if it drops to 2nd or 1st gear. Leaving it in 3rd, will eliminate the wheelspin, and save a short amount of time for not having to shift to 1st to 2nd, then from 2nd to 3rd.

Additionally, some cars have more torque and power in the middle RPM range, and it tails of significantly when you approach the redline. I specifically remember a Zonda license test in GT3 or GT4 that I couldn't pass with an AT, but once I figured out that it was faster in the middle-RPM range, and switched to Manual, I passed it with ease.
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This.
 
shem
Auto shifts at the start of the red-line, with manual one can rev into the red-line and shift a few hundred revs higher gaining speed a slight bit quicker.
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Not if the power dropped off a few thousand RPM ago. As everyone else is saying, the point is that you can shift at the best time for each car, this isn't going to be the same for every car.

Being able to rev passed the red line is an advantage when you're about to get to the next corner though and don't want to upshift just to downshift again.
 

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