Fastest 400pp or less around Fuji Speedway (F) ?

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Hello all! First post here. It's a great forum all the users and mods have built, and it's been helping me a bunch.

I'm going to be entering a mini-online Enduro race with some friends in a couple of days. The regulations are as follows....

-Fuji Speedway F
-400pp or less
-Pre-2000 model year
-Sports hard tires
-No trans/diff tuning allowed, all other tuning permitted.
-No race/concept cars.
-Min 2 pits.

I've tried tuning an EK9 Civic Type R to 400pp on the dot, with Full-C suspension and the most basic engine mods (race intake, sports exhaust.) After some weight reduction I ended up having to add a tiny amount of ballast to get to 400pp.

I'm currently putting down about 2:09's at Fuji. Is this slow for a car like that? I'm afraid I'm missing some options for a better base car to use. Maybe an MX-5 of some sort? I tried a mildly tuned 1986 MR-2, but I could only pull 2:11's at best.

Thanks!
 
Due to the nature of the last corners on Fuji, I would avoid using a front wheel drive car, the uphill section would be pure understeer, and massive loss of time.
 
Due to the nature of the last corners on Fuji, I would avoid using a front wheel drive car, the uphill section would be pure understeer, and massive loss of time.

I noticed through those last tight corners, especially coming into the straight, that I was pushing a bit hard. I've tuned her so the rear swings a bit more but it still pushes. The MR-2 was sliding, but at a pace that was slowing my times down a bit.
 
Try installing the Turbo Stage 2, so you have more mid rev torque for waking up faster on those tight uphill corners with the MR-2. An MR configuration car should go very very fast on the 100r corner also, the more you push on that car the more it grips, and combined with more mid range torque for the last section, you should beat Civic's time.

I'm away from the game right now, I'm just giving you general tips for that particular circuit.
 
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Due to the nature of the last corners on Fuji, I would avoid using a front wheel drive car, the uphill section would be pure understeer, and massive loss of time.

I didn't really appreciate all the versions of Fuji in GT4 until now. I would do anything to have the old version back. This 2007 nonsense is just garbage and has no flow.

I would agree with the FF statement though, those last corners are a pain in the neck.

While I might not have anything exactly 400pp, if you want to check out my CLUB Racing Tunes, they are great for having everyone run one-make with the same mods and small amounts of tuning customization. May not have exactly what you are looking for but I also wouldnt mind having a different driver for my tunes to get another opinion.

Is this a race that your friend organized?
 
Due to the nature of the last corners on Fuji, I would avoid using a front wheel drive car, the uphill section would be pure understeer, and massive loss of time.

I've noticed that if you enter the last two corners late in a FWD you get a good drive off. This is especially useful in the last corner as a good drive off will lead to an excellent run down the front straight. Obviously the possibility of understeer is always great in FWD but if you get the line right, you'll be quick. Driving line makes a huge difference at Fuji.
 
I didn't really appreciate all the versions of Fuji in GT4 until now. I would do anything to have the old version back. This 2007 nonsense is just garbage and has no flow.

I would agree with the FF statement though, those last corners are a pain in the neck.

While I might not have anything exactly 400pp, if you want to check out my CLUB Racing Tunes, they are great for having everyone run one-make with the same mods and small amounts of tuning customization. May not have exactly what you are looking for but I also wouldnt mind having a different driver for my tunes to get another opinion.

Is this a race that your friend organized?

Yes, it's a race my buddy put together. I'll have a peek at some of your tunes. Thanks to all for the opinions so far, it seems like driving a slow car fast is proving to be harder but rewarding.

I'll have to make some tweaks on the EK9's rear suspension to see if I can get the back to poke out a bit more with a late entry in the final corners. I'm just worried about thrashing the sport-hards to quickly, which is a main reason I'm leaning towards FWD for this 45min race.

What does the '99 S2000 come in at PP-wise? I would LOVE to just use a stock S2000 on this one, even if I had to ballast it a tad.
 
Can you use a '00 model?

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Opel Speedster! Well, there's an idea haha.

And if the S2000 is a tick over 400, I think I might better off with a slight ballast in that than my EK9. I'll have to give one a drive if I can find it in the UCD/OCD and see how it compares box-stock as opposed to the EK9.

I'm just concerned with the sports-hards staying decent through 45mins with a RWD.
 
Just had a go with a MR-S '99. 400pp 145hp 865kg.

Pretty consistant laptimes of 2:05.5

Seems to be milder on the tires, they never get red. And if you have to pit twice, you shouldn't have to worry about the tires, they will last, 45 min at this pace are just 22ish laps at most. Pitting in in lap 8 then at 16, then all the way to the finish.
 
Thanks a bunch to all, you clearly gave me more options than I had before starting the thread. First order of business is finding some of these cars in the UCD. If I can't, might have to wheel-and-deal in the marketplace. Thanks!
 
Go mid rear. It's crucial for the 100r corner, you'll gain a lot of time there without the need of rear wing (thus saving PP for more power), just by pushing hard and letting the weight shift all the way to the rear tires creating more grip.
 
This has my curiosity piqued so I think I'll have a go with the '99 S when I get home. Of course it never takes TOO much prodding to get me to drive one of my S2Ks.

MR... Hmm... Maybe the Autozam. 💡

But not sure on the gearing. It may not have a high enough top speed.
 
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Opel Speedster! Well, there's an idea haha.

And if the S2000 is a tick over 400, I think I might better off with a slight ballast in that than my EK9. I'll have to give one a drive if I can find it in the UCD/OCD and see how it compares box-stock as opposed to the EK9.

I'm just concerned with the sports-hards staying decent through 45mins with a RWD.

It is 8-9 decent laps per pit you need, yes? Not near PS3 right now, but I might try out a few whacky cars later. Were 2000 models OK?
 


Here's the lap of the Speedster. Look the big radius corners, specially the aforementioned 100r. There is no way in life an FF car can take that corner that fast.

Remember Mid Rear is the key to win this race.
 
I discovered the Mitsubishi FTO on a shuffle race.

The non GR versions have a nice 200hp dohc miviec engine. FF just under 400pp. I feel there's a lot of potential .

The Honda integra dc2 1995 is 399pp according to mygranturismo.net which has the ek9 engine bored out from 1.6 to a 1.8. I feel the integra handles so much better than the ek9.

You mention you would like the ek9 to be more pointy, I feel the Honda cr-x 1990 which has the same engine to be quite edgy compared to the ek9
 
Speedster Turbo is 418pp stock - bit of ballast would get that down and the extra power would be useful on that long straight. The two pitstops might allow you some leeway to cook the tyres a little!

Other options - Lupo Cup Car or BMW 120d (lots of torque) with tuning to get to 400pp (or weight saving in the case of the BMW)
 
The '99 S2000 was 419PP from the ucd. I cut the hp down to 400PP and threw a quick suspension tune on it. I ran 4 or 5 laps with a best of 2'05.4 The quick tune left the rear a bit twitchy so I could probably get the time under 2'05 if I dialed it in.

I also noticed that my Supra SZ-R (Mark IV Red) is 407PP. I might use that for a 400PP race just because it's so damn sexy. :D
 
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If you are still hunting for a car, take a look at the Berlinette S, it's a full second faster than the Speedster at the same 400pp and it's easier to drive.

Hunting hidden gem cars is fun lol
 
I would insist in the honda civic, if my on expierence could add something for you, OP. I am running in a similar cup serie, but with 450pp limit. My honda cruise Fuji at 2:01 high, aspec pratice mode, ss tyres. Other tested good options are seat cupra, fiat grand punto, polo gti, golf IV and V, peugeot 206 RC, renault Lutecia 2.0 16v. For roadsters, BMW Z4, MG 160T.
Hope I helped... Cheerz
 
I would insist in the honda civic, if my on expierence could add something for you, OP. I am running in a similar cup serie, but with 450pp limit. My honda cruise Fuji at 2:01 high, aspec pratice mode, ss tyres. Other tested good options are seat cupra, fiat grand punto, polo gti, golf IV and V, peugeot 206 RC, renault Lutecia 2.0 16v. For roadsters, BMW Z4, MG 160T.
Hope I helped... Cheerz


But 50pp more, way higher spec tires (sport soft vs sport hard) just to be 3-4 seconds faster?

400pp and sports hard = 2:04

450pp and sports soft = 2:01

Something's not right there.
 
The '99 S2000 was 419PP from the ucd. I cut the hp down to 400PP and threw a quick suspension tune on it. I ran 4 or 5 laps with a best of 2'05.4 The quick tune left the rear a bit twitchy so I could probably get the time under 2'05 if I dialed it in.

I also noticed that my Supra SZ-R (Mark IV Red) is 407PP. I might use that for a 400PP race just because it's so damn sexy. :D

Gave the S2000 a whirl and worked out pretty good. For some reason I wasn't gaining ground on my EK9's times. Might have been the combination of ballast/power limiter I had chosen.

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If you are still hunting for a car, take a look at the Berlinette S, it's a full second faster than the Speedster at the same 400pp and it's easier to drive.

Hunting hidden gem cars is fun lol

This type of challenge is making the game a ton more fun in a different way for me.

With the Civic I was putting down mid-2:06's with a fastest lap of 2:06.2. I have a feeling that I'll be beat in the straights, but if I can draft correctly and nail every apex I might be able to compete. My issue was last night my internet was down and without having access to the OCD or trades, I was stuck with my garage or the UCD. I really, really didn't want to spend the time to cycle the UCD, hehe.

So, the Civic is the car I spent the most time in so far, and the only other ones I would feel comfortable with is the S2000 (limited a bit), or the MR-2. Right now, leaning towards the Civic just due to seat-time.
 
hey all im the guy putting this race on and i am inviting anyone who posted in this thread and theyre friends if they want to enter. some good ideas and insites. i believe the stipulations were listed in the first post. but ill quickly do them again.
400pp
sports hard pre year 2000 car
no diff or transmission tuning
all else is allowed
2 mandatory pitstops during the race
it will be 24 laps on fuji speedway f
please come its goning to begin qualifying at 9:00 pm est.
i know its short notice but the more the better. we race clean and fair

friend me on psn or room will be called fuji400 enduro.
hope to see some of you guys there.
 
This type of challenge is making the game a ton more fun in a different way for me.

It really does. I'm currently trying to work out my favourite/fastest 600pp race and road cars, which turns out to be unbelievably complex.

Yours is a pretty tricky one due to the diff/transmission thing. The transmission just kills some cars on that track, and lack of diff tuning doesn't do FF/AWD cars any favours (to try to compensate).

Transmission and/or skinny tire syndrome killed two options, and I fell asleep after putting down a 2:08 with an FTO (offline, at least 2-3 seconds to be gained by not sleepdriving). Other winnable trusty oldies I intended to try were the Stratos (probably a handful), the Alpine 110S, and the BMW 2002 Turbo '73, but 90s cars will probably clean their clocks on SHs.

That Berlinette dark_ruffo mentioned is a fine car, and you should already have it (the Opels are winnable, also) - but probably better to go with what you're comfortable in. If you were practicing offline, make sure you get some online testing/tuning done first*!

One big favour, if I may ask - please report back? How you did, what the other cool kids were using? We need our closure!

*I might be mostly reminding myself of this.
 

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