TT17 Eiger Norwand W Trail typo - Free Dirt Tyres and over 200 new Cars for Rally

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Hi,

thought I'd share my findings.

Patch 1.11 and New seasonal events were fresh with new events to race.
After completing few Nascar events I desided to try the Drift Trials and Time trials.

Rally Time Trial was different and nice change from tarmac races.
I have this Peugeot 205 ' 85 I have shared on my GTP account.
I then used it on my other account to do the drift trials rally time trial.

Then the 2nd car I have for share is Nissan PENNZOIL Nismo GT-R '99 which I again borrowed to complete the Fuju Time Trial.
After completing that I started thinking about using some other car to improve my time at Fuji.

So I returned to Seasonal Events Time Trial 17 screen with the and accidently tried to enter the Rally Time Trial with the PENNZOIL.
To my suprize the game was showing that I could not enter the Time Trial because I had too mutch power (BHP).

But the game was telling the PENNZOIL Nismo GT-R '99 would be otherwice able to enter the Rally Time Trial ???

What the.. Well why not I thought , so I went to garage tuning options screen and there was no Dirt Tyres on my car , nor could it be fitted with them.

Detuning , using power limiter I got the PENNZOIL Nismo GT-R '99 down to 294 BHP (at 50% limiter).
After this I was able to Enter the Rally Time Trial :D

My thoughts were , "please don't crash , please don't crash.."
The game didn't crash .. phewh , If I'm able to get a replay of this it's going to look awesome!

I did some laps arounf the Eiger W Trail and got the replay saved.
My time was not great , but I had the replay I needed to be able to prove this.

So , I exited the stint and went to tuning screen , The game was telling me I have Sports Medium tyres currently installed , even thought in the other menu it says I have Dirt Tyres on.

All the other tyre choises were checked off.

I did some more laps and watched the replay ,
It was saying , I was driving on Sports Medium tyres at a Rally Track.
Then I exited the time trial , saved game and went to watch the replay I had in Replay Theatre.


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It was great , RWD Skyline and Dirt track , what can I say?

This is when I thought , that maybe other (normally non rallyable) cars would be able to access the Rally Time Trial.

So I searched my cars in garage for one that could not get Dirt Tyres fitted in tuning menu.
And I came across with a Ford GT '06
This would be really nice car on Rally Track , just like the Ford GT40 in GT2.
After detuning I got back to Time Trial and got in with no problems..

Then I tested if this Ford GT that was at Eiger could enter Rally events in A-spec mode.
And it could get into Dirt Rally events , but not Snow Rally events.
So , there is no indication of Dirt Tyres in tuning menu but you can enter dirt tracks.

After switching to few other cars and picking these Free , but invisible dirt tyres I went back To Ford GT '06 to test if the tyres had stayed on the car.
They had , which is nice.

Free Dirt tyres = 3,000 Cr. / set
Which Means max 6 million credit savings for full garage of cars , heh.

The requirements for free Dirf Tyres (before detuning) are : minimum of 1000kg and max 592 BHP

Using those numbers I was able to write a list of cars that are normally not able to get Dirt Tyres , but will be (Dirt) Rallyable after collecting the Dirt Tyres.

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Standard Cars


Alfa Romeo
155 2.5 V6 TI '93

Amuse
Carbon R (R34) '04
S2000 GT1 '04
S2000 R1 '04
S2000 Street Version '04

Aston Martin
DB7 Vantage Coupe '00
DB9 Coupe '03
V8 Vantage '99
Vanquish '04

Audi
A4 Touring Car '04
Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car '02
Nuvolari quattro '03
R8 LMS Race Car '09
R8 LMS Race Car (Team PlayStation) '09

Autobacs
ARTA Garaiya '03

BMW
120d '04
120i '04
320i Touring Car '03
330i '05
M Coupe '98
M3 '04
M3 CSL '03
M3 GTR '03
M3 GTR Race Car '01
M5 '05

Blitz
ER34 D1 SPEC '04

Callaway
C12 '03

Chevrolet
Camaro LM Race Car
Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car '63

Chrysler
Prowler '02

Cizeta
V16T '94

Dodge
Viper GTS-R Concept '00
Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #51 '00
Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #91 '00

Ford
Ford GT '02
Ford GT '05
Ford GT (No Stripe) '05
Ford GT LM Race Car
Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II

Ford (AU)
2000 Ford Falcon XR8

HKS
GENKI HYPER SILVIA RS2 '04

Honda
ARTA NSX '00
Castrol MUGEN NSX '00
INTEGRA TYPE R Touring Car
LOCTITE MUGEN NSX '01
Mobil 1 NSX '01
NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car
NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car
RAYBRIG NSX '00
S2000 LM Race Car
TAKATA DOME NSX '03

Hyundai
Tuscani CCS '03

Jaguar
E-TYPE Coupe '61
S-TYPE R '02
XFR '10
XJ220 '92
XJ220 LM Race Car
XKR Coupe '99
XKR R Performance '02

Lamborghini
Contach 25th Anniversary '88
Contach LP400 '74
NOMAD Diablo GT-1 '00

Lexus
GS 300 '00
GS 300 '91
GS 300 Vertex Edition (J) '00
IS 200 GT-1 Race Car '04

Lister
Storm V12 Race Car '99

Lotus
Esprit Sport 350 '00
Esprit Turbo HC '87
Esprit V8 GT '98
Esprit V8 SE '98

Mazda
Atenza Touring Car
BP FALKEN RX-7 '03
Mazda6 Touring Car
RX-7 LM Race Car
RX-8 Concept LM Race Car

Mercedes-Benz
190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II '91
CL 600 '00
CLK 55 AMG '00
CLK Touring Car '00
E 55 AMG '02
SL 500 (R129) '98
SL 500 (R230) '02
SL 600 (R129) '98
SL 600 (R230) '04
SL 65 AMG (R230) '04
SLK 230 Kompressor '98
SLR McLaren '03

Mine's
BNR34 SKYLINE GT-R V-spec N1 base '00

Mitsubishi
HSR-II Concept '89

Mugen
MUGEN S2000 '00

Nismo
270R '94
400R '96
Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03
GT-R LM Road Going Version '95
Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99
Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00

Nissan
350Z Concept LM Race Car
C-WEST RAZO SILVIA '01
CALSONIC SKYLINE '00
CALSONIC SKYLINE GT-R Race Car '93
FALKEN*GT-R Race Car '04
Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car
GT-R Concept (Tokyo Motor Show 2001)
LOCTITE ZEXEL GT-R '00
MOTUL PITWORK Z '04
PENNZOIL Nismo GT-R '99
PENNZOIL ZEXEL GT-R '01
R390 GT1 Road Car '98
XANAVI HIROTO GT-R '01
XANAVI NISMO GT-R '03

Opel
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix) '00
Calibra Touring Car '94

Opera Performance
350Z '04

Oullim Motors
SPIRRA 4.6 V8 '04

Pagani
Zonda C12 '00
Zonda C12S '00
Zonda C12S 7.3 '02
Zonda LM Race Car - with intentional engine wear down

RE Amemiya
AMEMIYA ASPARADRINK RX7 '04

Renaultsport
Clio Renault Sport Trophy Race Car '00
Lutecia Renault Sport Trophy Race Car '00

Saleen
S7 '02

Shelby
Series One Super Charged '03

Spoon
S2000 Race Car '00

Subaru
CUSCO SUBARU ADVAN IMPREZA '03
IMPREZA Super Touring Car

Tommy Kaira
ZZII '00

Toyota
ALTEZZA Touring Car
ARISTO 3.0V '91
ARISTO V300 '00
ARISTO V300 Vertex Edition '00
Castrol TOM'S SUPRA '00
Castrol TOM'S Supra '01
DENSO SARD SUPRA GT '00
SUPERAUTOBACS APEX MR-S '00
WEDSSPORT CELICA '03
WOODONE TOM'S SUPRA '03
au CERUMO Supra '01

Trial
CELICA SS-II (ZZT231) '03

Vauxhall
Astra Super Touring Car '00
Calibra Super Touring Car '94

Volkswagen
Lupo GTI Cup Car (J) '03
New Beetle Cup Car '00
W12 Nardo Concept '01


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Premium Cars


AEM
S2000

Amuse
NISMO 380RS Super Leggera

Art Morrison
Corvette '60

Aston Martin
DB9 Coupe '06

Audi
R8 4.2 FSI R Tronic '07
R8 5.2 FSI quattro '09

Autobacs
ARTA Garaiya '08

Blitz
DUNLOP ER34 SKYLINE '07

BMW
135i Coupe '07
Concept 1 Series tii '07
M3 Coupe '07
M5 '08
Z4 '03
Z4 M Coupe '08

Citroen
GT by Citroen Race Car
GT by Citroen Road Car

Ferrari
430 Scuderia '07
458 Italia '09
512BB '76
California '08
F40 '92
F430 '06
SP1 '08

Ford
Ford GT '06
Mark IV Race Car '67

Gran Turismo
Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car
GRAN TURISMO 350Z RS

High End Performance
G37

HKS
CT230R '08

Honda
ARTA NSX '06
EPSON NSX '08
RAYBRIG NSX '06
TAKATA DOME NSX '06

HPA Motorsports
FT565 twin turbo Audi TT

Jaguar
XK Coupe Luxury '07
XKR Coupe '10

Lamborghini
Gallargo LP 560-4 '08

Lexus
BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 '06
DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430 '08
ENEOS SC430 '08
IS F '07
IS F RM '07
IS F Racing Concept '08
LFA '10
PETRONAS TOM'S SC430 '08
Weds Sport IS350 '08

Lotus
Esprit V8 '02

Maserati
GranTurismo S '08

McLaren
McLaren MP4-12C '10

Mercedes-Benz
300 SL Coupe '54
C63 AMG '08
SL 55 AMG (R230) '02
SLS AMG '10
SLR McLaren (19inch Wheel Option) '09 - with intentional engine wear down

Mine's
BNR34 SKYLINE GT-R N1 base '06

Nissan
Calsonic IMPUL GT-R '08
MOTUL AUTECH GT-R '08
WOODONE ADVAN Clarion GT-R '08
XANAVI NISMO GT-R '08
XANAVI NISMO Z '06
YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R '08

RE Amemiya
Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 '06
Amemiya FD3S RX-7

Shelby
Cobra 427 '66

Subaru
CUSCO DUNLOP SUBARU IMPREZA '08

Toyota
Castrol TOM'S SUPRA '97
YellowHat YMS Supra '05

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Chrome Line


Audi
R8 5.2 FSI quattro Chrome Line

BMW
M3 Coupe Chrome Line

Mercedes-Benz
300SL Coupe Chrome Line

Shelby
Cobra 427 S/C Chrome Line

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Stealth


Honda
NSX GT500 Stealth Model

Nissan
GT-R GT500 Stealth Model

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It took me roughly 3 days to complete that list , enjoy the new Dirt Racers :D


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There may be few cars I mistakenly left out of this list , because not owning them or being too tired when checking the cars.

Anyone with "special" not availeble to everybody cars , feel free to post in if they are Able to enter the Rally Time Trial and get (invisible) Dirt Tyres .


Sources I used to create this list:
Mostly my own garage :sly:

GT5 Prize Car List/Unlockables by OkeyD - (for those few prize only cars)
GT5 Complete Car Database by Famine (For the 0km car specs when I didn't have at 0km , but with broken in engine)
Racing Modification/ Race Modified Cars by Panavia > joe8

Special thanks to:

nick6raphael for the Chevrolet C2 Race Car '63
w-g-e for convincing me that posting this thread is for the greater good.
Inferno251 for posting info about the Chrome Line and Stealth Model cars
Sjaak for sharing his 6 GT Academy 370Z's
grog for confirming , that engine wear down makes it possible to use certain normally too powerfull cars 👍

:cheers:


MadMax
 
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That's awesome. I recall GT4 had a similar glitch, but most of the time it just crashed the game rather than let you on the track.
 
It's not working for me :\

You need to enter the Time Trial to get the tyres for starters.

Most of the cars need to be ballasted and detuned by removing all possible power upgrades.
Plus detuned by power limiter. (easyest to just put it at 50%)

Many of the cars are 0km driven and no oil change (mainly premiums)

Some cars are very tricky/difficult to get down to low enought BHP.
(those few need to have engine that isn't alredy broken in / slightly broken in at maximum)

Car bought from OCD have their engine alredy broken in :grumpy:


Lexus IS F , when Racing Modified loses all eguipped parts , including the Dirt Tyres.
So it needs to get the tyres after Racing Modifying

EDIT:
Man, I really hope this works online.:) That would be awesome.

Yes , they work online.



MadMax
 
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This is actually a good glitch. Rallying Ferrari's will be fun. It's just a shame there is a HP and weight limit, the FGT would make an interesting rally car :crazy:

Edit: I've tried the 512bb and the Alfa Touring car and noticed that neither car left a dust trail behind them during the time trial.
 
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Would love to see some photos of that. :lol:

I've added 2 pictures in the OP.


So would an F1, or a NASCAR, or a Super GT which I drove :) the Raybrig NSX

From those the Raybrig can be used for rallying.


Oh right , I just noticed all cars that have the Dirt Tyres installed in that Rally Time Trial ,
have visul for having the tyres bought at the Tuning Shop

It also seems like that tyres eguipped (before entering rally) , N1s or R3s change the driveability of car in Dirt Rally Conditions.



MadMax
 
It also seems like that tyres eguipped (before entering rally) , N1s or R3s change the driveability of car in Dirt Rally Conditions.



MadMax

Do R3s provide more grip? GT5 might translate that into slicks on dirt, and that might not work:dunce:
 
Thanks for the great find Madmax. I tried a few cars on the track for the past few hours with various drivetrains and unsurprisingly, 4WD cars (such as the Audi R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo) were good on the dirt roads.

And it could get into Dirt Rally events , but not Snow Rally events.

Maybe try it on the next snow event available on the seasonal time trial.
 
The requirements for free Dirf Tyres (before detuning) are : minimum of 1000kg and max 592 BHP

Also, you can use the following Chromeline models:

  • Shelby Cobra
  • Mercedes 300SL Coupe
  • BMW M3
  • Audi R8 (V10)
And the following Stealth models:

  • Honda NSX GT500
  • Nissan GT-R GT500
Not too sure if you can use the Edge Camaro or the Nissan GT-R GT Academy special cars (I don't have these cars as I have a PAL PS3 :grumpy:), and would like for someone to confirm this.
 
I bet the old video from Gamestop of the Ford GT Mclaren F1 was a accident then. This may have been there since release. Good find!
I guess we will get patch 1.13 earlier than expected now. :)
 
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You need to enter the Time Trial to get the tyres for starters.

Most of the cars need to be ballasted and detuned by removing all possible power upgrades.
Plus detuned by power limiter. (easyest to just put it at 50%)

Many of the cars are 0km driven and no oil change (mainly premiums)

Some cars are very tricky/difficult to get down to low enought BHP.
(those few need to have engine that isn't alredy broken in / slightly broken in at maximum)

Car bought from OCD have their engine alredy broken in :grumpy:


Lexus IS F , when Racing Modified loses all eguipped parts , including the Dirt Tyres.
So it needs to get the tyres after Racing Modifying

EDIT:


Yes , they work online.



MadMax

Sweet, made it work :D
My main problem was that I was confusing the time trial with the drift trial :ouch:
Anyway, thanks for the help and for the heads up on this glitch :)
 
Do R3s provide more grip? GT5 might translate that into slicks on dirt, and that might not work:dunce:

I spent a good amount of time at the Toscana Drift Trial in Blitz ER34 '04 and could clearly tell the difference between N1's and R3's
R3's gave better handling - for drifting :odd:
No difference in points thought.

The cars are really running on Street/Track tyres and the dirt tyres only seem to act like an access key.


Also, you can use the following Chromeline models:

  • Shelby Cobra
  • Mercedes 300SL Coupe
  • BMW M3
  • Audi R8 (V10)
And the following Stealth models:

  • Honda NSX GT500
  • Nissan GT-R GT500
Not too sure if you can use the Edge Camaro or the Nissan GT-R GT Academy special cars (I don't have these cars as I have a PAL PS3 :grumpy:), and would like for someone to confirm this.

Thanks for posting this Inferno251 👍


I've updated the OP with Stealth + Chrome Line info and added Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car to the list.



MadMax
 
Cool find.
I hope they don't fix it, in the future why don't they let us take any car anywhere, with any tires (even if it handles like crap or the tires wear out quickly), even online. :D
 
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