Longer Super Soft Tire Life

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I've been doing higher lap races and I cant seem to make my super softs last more than 5-7 laps will others are doing 10-13 laps on their super softs. Could it be my camber?, I have it set to 2.5=front & 2.0=back. I believe my top speed MPH is off by 4 MPH as well. Is this camber setting that sensitive?
 
joetruckv8
I've been doing higher lap races and I cant seem to make my super softs last more than 5-7 laps will others are doing 10-13 laps on their super softs. Could it be my camber?, I have it set to 2.5=front & 2.0=back. I believe my top speed MPH is off by 4 MPH as well. Is this camber setting that sensitive?
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And where are these super softs???
 
It can be more then just Camber.
Me think your Camber is fine.
Toe settings ?? too much - or + Toe will stress your Tires.
To stiff springs ?? just keep it in the middle of the setting-bar (front a bit softer then rear due to better cornering)
To high anti-Rollbares ?? more then 4 will kill your Tires (my results of testing)
To stiff Damper settings ?? I run 5/5 comp and 6/6 extension

You see if your overall Suspension is to stiff/hard you´ll stress your Tires more.
Just fiddle with your settings.
Or you could ask for Tire-saving-settings in the Tuning area ;)

Super-softs = Racing Softs me think
 
Plus the AI are so because they are slow on corners.

Slow around corners means better tire life.
 
I run the stock springs set-ups, i just scrap off a couple of ticks (very minor), and my rebounds are @8, and my compressions are @5. my toe in the front is -10 to +10 (depends on track), and 0 in the rear, and my anti roll bars are at max 7. the first thing I'm going 2 do is try your anti roll bar test with the camber as well. I'll let you know if i get the same results. I sure i will tho, thanks'
 
Oh one small addition:
Brakebalance and "Technique".
I ran 7/4 (f/r) and that wasn´t good for my Tire saving => I reduced to 5/4 and now it´s way better.
Also I still use [] for braking (DS3) and I found that if you fill the brakebar 50-75% (not just slam it to the max) you save a huge amount of Tire.
I can´t run the exact amount of Laps as others (I compete in two Series) but I´m not that far away.
 
Sakery is right, brake balance makes a huge difference to tyre life as does suspension settings. You obviously want a bit more braking to the front but too much of a gap will slaughter your tyres. Which set comes off worse, is it your rears or fronts?
 
Aaaaand, with a wheel i managed at least 3 more laps on sartre, instead of doing 9 i reached 12 laps just by steering sensibly and not give it the beans when leaving a corner. And the other ones are right: for long races set the suspension a tiny bit softer, gives u another lap again (im always talking Sartre here)
 
baluba
Aaaaand, with a wheel i managed at least 3 more laps on sartre, instead of doing 9 i reached 12 laps just by steering sensibly and not give it the beans when leaving a corner. And the other ones are right: for long races set the suspension a tiny bit softer, gives u another lap again (im always talking Sartre here)
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👍 for this.
Plus, in some tracks the diference between the timelap in soft and hard is so high that the diference in tire consumption means nothing compared the diference that you can set being consistently fast.
 
KingSakery
Oh one small addition:
Brakebalance and "Technique".
I ran 7/4 (f/r) and that wasn´t good for my Tire saving => I reduced to 5/4 and now it´s way better.
Also I still use [] for braking (DS3) and I found that if you fill the brakebar 50-75% (not just slam it to the max) you save a huge amount of Tire.
I can´t run the exact amount of Laps as others (I compete in two Series) but I´m not that far away.
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My brakes are @ 2/2 or 3/3 max, some cars I might try 2/4
 
KingSakery
Oh one small addition:
Brakebalance and "Technique".
I ran 7/4 (f/r) and that wasn´t good for my Tire saving => I reduced to 5/4 and now it´s way better.
Also I still use [] for braking (DS3) and I found that if you fill the brakebar 50-75% (not just slam it to the max) you save a huge amount of Tire.
I can´t run the exact amount of Laps as others (I compete in two Series) but I´m not that far away.
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berty1979
Sakery is right, brake balance makes a huge difference to tyre life as does suspension settings. You obviously want a bit more braking to the front but too much of a gap will slaughter your tyres. Which set comes off worse, is it your rears or fronts?
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Rears all the way, but my brake balance is pretty low, I think its either that camber, or the anti-roll bars like that guy said earlier. I will be running tire degradation test tonight, and I will post my test results.
 
Well 2.0 sounds a lot for rear camber but shouldnt destroy the tyres too badly. Check your toe and go easy on the throttle. Even wear out by adding a little extra to the front brakes, what type of car are you using?
 
KingSakery
It can be more then just Camber.
Me think your Camber is fine.
Toe settings ?? too much - or + Toe will stress your Tires.
To stiff springs ?? just keep it in the middle of the setting-bar (front a bit softer then rear due to better cornering)
To high anti-Rollbares ?? more then 4 will kill your Tires (my results of testing)
To stiff Damper settings ?? I run 5/5 comp and 6/6 extension

You see if your overall Suspension is to stiff/hard you´ll stress your Tires more.
Just fiddle with your settings.
Or you could ask for Tire-saving-settings in the Tuning area ;)

Super-softs = Racing Softs me think
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After seeing more and more about softer spring in front than in the rear I just gotta ask this question. Sorry if this sounds stupid. Playing the Grand Prix F1 game series back in the days, especially GP3 and 4, it was said (by some (real) F1 team engineer in the game) that it's better to have softer springs in the back than in the front, to avoid oversteer (high front springs causes understeer whereas high springs in the back cause oversteer right?). The same applied to the anti-roll bar. So, that's my basic set up for the FGT, LMP, GT500 etc cars (putting everything higher in front, like springs, anti-roll bar, dampers). Maybe I'm just using F1 car data for my GT5 cars, which might not be the smartest idea, hehe. If someone can clarify this that would be great though.:)
 
Yeah GP3 was epic I still have the game and the BOOK aka Bible.
GT5 is a bit different though.

In my LMP/FGT/F1/GroupC I run stiffer front then rear springs, because I´m using DS3 and it is kinda hard to control the extra turn in.
Only in Road-Cars and middle-fast Race-Cars I use the front softer then rear setting.

Plus the difference is minimal.
Example: My Spring setting in the front is 9.5 I use 10-10.2 at the rear so it is not much but I can "feel" the difference.

My Brake-bias is 4/3 now (lower I tried but me think Pedals are better then DS3 in terms of control).

If your rear Tires are wearing more => LSD settings kann help you (throttle control too).
I don´t have a clue in that though.
Only thing I know about it is the help from GT5 itself :D (the yellow Button)
I normally run 15/25/10 (a bit lower if the Car is less powerfull)
MR: 16/25/11
AWD: 5/5/5f 13/23/10
FF: 5/5/5 --> minimal understeer but mighty smoke off the inside wheel

I can´t help you with a setting of the LSD for more Tire-saving. Just tweak those for your likings.
 
berty1979
Well 2.0 sounds a lot for rear camber but shouldnt destroy the tyres too badly. Check your toe and go easy on the throttle. Even wear out by adding a little extra to the front brakes, what type of car are you using?
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Lol, I have this problem with all my cars. That's why I definitely think its my setup.
 
KingSakery
Oh one small addition:
Brakebalance and "Technique".
I ran 7/4 (f/r) and that wasn´t good for my Tire saving => I reduced to 5/4 and now it´s way better.
Also I still use [] for braking (DS3) and I found that if you fill the brakebar 50-75% (not just slam it to the max) you save a huge amount of Tire.
I can´t run the exact amount of Laps as others (I compete in two Series) but I´m not that far away.
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Ok so I ran test and you are right the anti-roll bars set to more than 4, kills the tires quick. Way faster than the camber and toe combined.
 

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