Comfort Hard hotlaps! Yellowbird, Mazda 787B, Mclaren F1 and others

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Hi!

Inspired by this thread I decided to do a series of hotlaps around the ring with some cars using comfort hards. I doubt there's any sort of data you can gather from these laps (since getting a good time is mostly about luck) but I though it's a fun challenge and also it's a good way to see how each car performs with minimal grip.

Also I was hoping of turning this into a sort of a competition; What's the fastest way to get around the ring with comfort hards? 💡

1: Mazda 787B 7:28.257

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0bMFs8xBMM

810HP / 830KG / 709PP
(this was the first time driving this car so not completely broken in)

I looked at the setting window with comfort hards selected and burst out laughing. I thought it must be impossible to drive this car with these tires (and how the hell are you going to stretch those tires out to fit those rims anyway). Turns out it was a lot easier than I thought. I ran 5 laps constantly improving my laptime but after that I couldn't go any faster. Once I was 2 seconds up all lap but mis-shifted at the beginning of the straight and ended up 0.2 seconds behind :ouch:. The ghost car kept running away and I even started calling it names (I stopped when I realised I was actually calling myself a bastard). Then I took a break, ate something, came back and found almost 4 seconds! :eek:

2: Jaguar XJR-9 7:37.958 Driven by Lion-Face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEy1oQtuimQ


3: Nissan GT-R Black Edition 7:48.412 Driven by mike_gt3 with ABS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cQkTJJtvHg


4: McLaren SLR 8:00.171 Driven by mike_gt3 with ABS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL6pW5q2N7I


5: McLaren F1 8:12.360

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2xDElz0gxc

643HP / 1140KG / 615PP
(this was the first time driving this car so not completely broken in)

There were some big mistakes on this lap, but it was still faster than my previous attempts. A very fun car to drive especially on the highspeed sections as it has so much power. At first I struggled to get a clean lap but once I realised I could use first gear on many corners (to keep the revs high and kill the understeer) I started to get the hang of it.


6: Honda NSX type-R 8:25.474

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6bLTgEGNYM

303HP / 1270KG / 475PP

I already knew the NSX-R was stable, but this test really hammered the point home. It didn't feel like I was driving on comfort hards, because the car had so much grip and was so easy to drive. At stock power the car has a bit of understeer which was a problem, but overall the grip was amazing.


7: Ferrari 512BB 8:35.402

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmlxNOAq_14

354HP / 1400KG / 481PP

I love this car. Not only is it beautiful it also handles really nicely and is easy to drive even with comfort hards. The only problem with the car is the sound :(, it doesn't sound quite as good as the real thing. I had big issues with my shifter on this lap, second gear often didn't go in or suddenly popped out again as you can see on the video.


8: Ruf CTR Yellowbird 8:35.507 Update!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ54QkUAX5I

480 HP / 1150KG / 533PP

I've been wanting to do this ever since I started doing these hotlaps but only got to it today. It was pretty easy because I know this car so well and I had driven it with comfort hards a couple times online. I wasn't satisfied with the time though, I'm sure the car deserves more. I made some big mistakes but after several attempts couldn't improve.

This was the first time filming a wheelcam and I noticed I take a really weird grip of the shifterknob when changing to 3rd. Never noticed that before. :lol:

Here's also an outside view of this lap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fifG3tIfonQ


9: Shelby Cobra 427 8:48.014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIZWitIUYf0

496HP / 1068KG / 593PP
(this was the first time driving this car so not completely broken in)

This was great fun. The car has some understeer so you have to kill it quick but once you get the rear out it's really easy to control. Not a very fast time though considering the specs (and there were some big mistakes aswell). The car really suffers from having only 4 gears.


All laps driven with G25 wheel, clutch and gearstick. No aids were used (no ABS). Only modification to the cars was an oil change and brake balance adjustment (4/1).
 
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OK8
3: Honda NSX type-R 8:25.474
At stock power the car has a bit of understeer...

5: Shelby Cobra 427 8:48.014
The car has some understeer...
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Nope, sorry, didn't see any of that :lol:

Great videos, well captured and extremely enjoyable to watch. I saw your 'Bluebird' race video the other day which I thought was good, and these are also excellent.

Top driving, especially with a clutch and H-shifter 👍
 
Carlos Fandango
Nope, sorry, didn't see any of that :lol:

Great videos, well captured and extremely enjoyable to watch. I saw your 'Bluebird' race video the other day which I thought was good, and these are also excellent.

Top driving, especially with a clutch and H-shifter 👍
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:lol: Thanks!

But actually understeer was the biggest problem when doing all of these runs. Oversteer you can always try to control, but when a car starts understeering there's not much you can do about it.
 
I've always wondered why you're so good, your demonstration of car control and consistency is unmatched(at least on GT5), I then noticed you're Finnish and now I know:p
 
Mac K
I've always wondered why you're so good, your demonstration of car control and consistency is unmatched(at least on GT5), I then noticed you're Finnish and now I know:p
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Yeah being a Finnish explain all :)

Seriously watching high speed drifting in 512 BB made me warm inside. Pure awasomnes :)
 
Mac K
I've always wondered why you're so good, your demonstration of car control and consistency is unmatched(at least on GT5), I then noticed you're Finnish and now I know:p
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Thanks! Very kind words.

Though I have to say it's nice to have car control and all that but when the going gets really serious in some ultra high-class rooms we sometimes have (like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yAZBkeKYhE ), or online leagues I'm not much cop. Still gotta work on driving when there actually is some grip :lol:.

Though on that video there's a clear demonstration between different driving styles. The BMW M3 CLS guys seem to go very stable while even with that "tuned" nsx (it maybe has an air filter :lol:) I'm on opposite lock almost every corner.

Perkel
Yeah being a Finnish explain all :)

Seriously watching high speed drifting in 512 BB made me warm inside. Pure awasomnes :)
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Yeah I guess I can always blame it on the nationality :lol:
Glad you liked it.

And thanks aswell to everyone else who commented. I'll post more laps once I decide upon which car to try. Stay tuned! 👍
 
JEEEEEEESUS H CHRIST!!!

You are a GT GOD!

Absolutely astounding control!:bowdown:

Please, please, please post them from the normal replay angles too.

Btw if you turn off the HUD when in normal replay mode then use select button to change views the entire HUD stays off!
 
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phil_75
JEEEEEEESUS H CHRIST!!!

You are a GT GOD!

Absolutely astounding control!:bowdown:

Please, please, please post them from the normal replay angles too.

Btw if you turn off the HUD when in normal replay mode then use select button to change views the entire HUD stays off!
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Thanks a lot!

I thought of including the normal replay angles in the end of the videos but most of the laps were too long to fit the 15 minute limit. I could upload them separately but it's quite a lot of work since my computer is really slow. Maybe later.

I left the HUD there on purpose as I wanted to show the time, gear and pedal movements.

TankAss95
Woah. :O
Do you tune your cars or leave them stock? And what wheel do you use?
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Logitech G25 wheel, clutch and gearstick. Cars are stock apart from brake balance adjustment (4:1 on most cars, 5:2 on the 787b) and slight transmission adjustment on the 787B.

Thanks a lot for comments. I'll post more laps soon!
 
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OK8
Logitech G25 wheel, clutch and gearstick. Cars are stock apart from brake balance adjustment (4:1 on most cars, 5:2 on the 787b) and slight transmission adjustment on the 787B.

Thanks a lot for comments. I'll post more laps soon!
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I'll have to try this out. 👍 I usually use Sport Hards in time trials, it really improves your skill when you learn to use lower grip tires.
The only powerful car I have ever managed to get a decent time with CH on the ring is the F40. I can't remember my time though. :mad:
Anyway thanks! I'll have to try this out. You are a shockingly good driver. 👍
 
Practice Mode from the GT5 Menu? Online Room?
Practice Mode Setup? Online Room Setup?
Tire wear? Boost? Car Damage?
 
Ok8, sorry fella, I haven't watched the videos, but the biggest row I have ever had with my wife was when she shredded my log I kept of times I had managed around the 'Ring using 'eco' tyres on GT4. Man, I love comfort hards. (I taped the log back together by the way.)

If you ever get a race night or series set up please let me know, and once I have got round to watching your vids, I might be able to give a decent account of myself.

Cheers, Z.
 
xzeroracer
Practice Mode from the GT5 Menu? Online Room?
Practice Mode Setup? Online Room Setup?
Tire wear? Boost? Car Damage?
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Practice mode from GT5 menu. Tyre wear on, grip real.

Zolon32
Ok8, sorry fella, I haven't watched the videos, but the biggest row I have ever had with my wife was when she shredded my log I kept of times I had managed around the 'Ring using 'eco' tyres on GT4. Man, I love comfort hards. (I taped the log back together by the way.)

If you ever get a race night or series set up please let me know, and once I have got round to watching your vids, I might be able to give a decent account of myself.

Cheers, Z.
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I've been thinking of hosting a comfort hard race room some day. I'll post here if I do.
 
OK8
Also I was hoping of turning this into a sort of a competition; What's the fastest way to get around the ring with comfort hards? 💡
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If you really want to go fast you shouldn't drift too much :p --> smooth is fast



Very nice videos though, tried couple cars with comfort hards/all aids off/G27+clutch and it's definitely fun :D
 
Sutuki
If you really want to go fast you shouldn't drift too much :p --> smooth is fast



Very nice videos though, tried couple cars with comfort hards/all aids off/G27+clutch and it's definitely fun :D
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Yes it's true in some of those laps I get a bit carried away with drifting, but also with comfort hards understeer is such an unstoppable force it's often important to get the back out right away just to make it around the corner in the first place.
 
Excellent driving. I myself seem to struggle with RWD powerslides. I use G25 wheel and you seem to control cars so nice and easy. What wheel settings do you use and are cars stock tuned. G 25 force feedback and sliding near and off the tyre limit is beyond my skills.
 
Schudelfloss
Excellent driving. I myself seem to struggle with RWD powerslides. I use G25 wheel and you seem to control cars so nice and easy. What wheel settings do you use and are cars stock tuned. G 25 force feedback and sliding near and off the tyre limit is beyond my skills.
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Thanks!

Cars are all stock. Don't remember the wheel settings exactly (what settings are there? It's been ages since I visited that menu) but I have FFB on 10 since my wheel is really old and feels quite lazy. 10 isn't hard enough to make my wrists hurt but I don't know how it would be with a brand new G27.

The wheel movements the cockpit view shows don't exactly match the way I turn the wheel in real life. When sliding I almost never have my hands in a normal 9-3 position, so try moving your hands on the wheel, placing them in a position in which it's easiest to turn it. I've been thinking of doing a video with a proper camera filming the wheel, but right now in Finland it gets so dark so early, I'm almost never home when it's bright enough to film. :lol:
 
I have to say that's pretty damn impressive! Especially from what I can see, no TCS. No TCS is doable, but on Comfort Hards, it's a whole different game! 👍
 
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stupidstormy36
I have to say that's pretty damn impressive! Especially from what I can see, no TCS. No TCS is doable, but on Comfort Hards, it's a whole different game! 👍
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Thanks!

I posted a new lap (finally). My favourite car: the Yellowbird.

I'll post more laps when I get to it. Stay tuned! 👍
 
To be honest.. I would be affraid of you with Racing Soft tires..

I added something in my signature about this thread ;)
 
Nice Laps OK8, inspired me to do one of my own. I'm a bigger fan of the XJR-9 than the 787B so I took that to the track. It's not as fast as the 787B but 960hp on Comfort Hards is a lot of fun! I'm not the drifter you are so my lap isn't so flashy.

I kept missing 4th gear, and a few apexes, so there's certainly room for improvement, but currently my best lap to date after about 15 attempts.



From Description:
Nurburgring Nordschleife Time Attack

Group C Jaguar XJR-9 '88
No Aids
No ABS
Comfort Hard Tires


Track Grip: Real
Tire/Fuel Wear: On

Car Settings
Stock. Oil Change only.
715pp ~ 960hp
No ABS - Brake Settings Front 7, Rear 5
No other settings changed from stock.
 

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