Speeding KILLS

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"Son 'wasn't allowed to drive car'
November 25, 2004

THE P-plate driver who killed himself and two friends in an horrific accident was joy-riding in the high-powered, high-speed car without permission, his father said yesterday.

Shortly after, he died instantly along with passengers Carl Homer, 33, and Mr Homer's 15-year-old, seven-month pregnant, girlfriend Natasha Schyf, when they crashed into a power pole at speeds estimated at up to 200km/h.

They were driving in a 50km/h zone on a residential street in the Central Coast town of Wyoming.

A devastated Mr Dousset said Emile had only driven the high-powered sports car "once or twice" before.

"He was not allowed to drive that car," he said.

"He was over that infallible stage when teenagers feel bulletproof. He knew how dangerous it can be. I spent a lot of time educating him on driving and powerful cars."

Mr Dousset, who returned yesterday from a six-month working trip in the UK after learning of his son's death, had been concerned the $110,000, souped-up car was too powerful for his son, whom he described as a "lovely, beautiful kid".

"I can't explain what has happened because I don't know," he said. "I certainly feel very, very devastated for everyone that's involved.

"There are three people that have lost their lives here and three families are very much affected by the whole thing."

Miss Schyf's parents, Margaret and Tony, were doing their best to deal with the loss of their daughter and future grandson.

Mrs Schyf had been due to take her daughter to birthing classes today to prepare for the big day, which was less than two months away.

Miss Schyf and Mr Homer, who met two years ago through friends, had just moved into a new home to start a family with their first child -- a boy -- and were already thinking of names.

"Carl and Natasha were perfect for each other, inseparable," Mr Schyf said.

"He was a lovely guy, everything for my daughter, and we were all looking forward to the baby."

Mrs Schyf, a Jehovah's Witness, said her daughter had not followed the family religion and went her own way, but was always happy.

Mr Schyf said P-plate drivers should be on a "three strike" rule, with an immediate jail term for anyone who strikes out, "regardless of how old they are".

"This is speeding. If all teenagers see this - what has happened to our family - they may think twice," Mr Schyf said.

According to residents of Chamberlain Rd yesterday, the flower-covered memorial to three lives lost had failed to make "a damned difference".

"Less than 24 hours later cars were hooning down the street again last night," resident Lisa Harris said. "We are having enough trouble sleeping as it is because it is really scary,"

Mr Dousset said his family would now try to deal with their loss as best they could.

"I understand there is a huge push on at the moment with P-plate drivers, and I understand it, and I agree with it, but I don't want to use my son as a vehicle for it," he said."

The Daily Telegraph

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Speeding doesn't kill, it's the big stop at the end that kills. ;)

Wow, I saw that on the news, I could not believe that the car got torn in half. The driver must have been driving at totally incredistupid speeds.
 
Isn't that a Skyline ?... God just killed a kitten it seems...

And for once, Famine, I think this is slightly pointless... Touching story but nothing we don't know. Teenagers shouldn't be allowed to drive anything with more than 75hp. They should be forced to take advanced classes driving classes etc. etc. etc.

Speed Kills... Nothing new.. Two days ago, a 17 yo, no license, hit a 2 yo in a "semi" stolen car... (twas his dads...)
 
Not at all on topic (I have little remorse for someone who would do 200km/h on a public road):


Famine

... Carl Homer, 33, and Mr Homer's 15-year-old, seven-month pregnant, girlfriend Natasha Schyf ...

The 33-year-old had a seven-month pregnant 15-year-old girlfriend?

:eek:
 
Actually, I was talking about the car, not the kids & weird-bloke. It's such a shame to see a Skyline rent asunder.

The driver wasn't a teenager - he was 21. His father had educated him about the dangers of cars - and his in particular - and believed him to be over the phase of teenage indestructibility. Yet he STILL stole the car, drove at 4 times the speed limit with friends in and killed everyone (for reference, he apparently hit a bump in the road and became airborne - if he hadn't have been speeding, he wouldn't have become airborne. Still, it's a good way to crash the uncrashable - make sure none of the wheels are on the ground).

Firebird - Yes, I'd wondered about that too. It also says that "friends" introduced them 2 YEARS before. Friends introduce a 13 year old GIRL to a 31 year old man so that they can date?
 
Firebird
Not at all on topic (I have little remorse for someone who would do 200km/h on a public road)

Famine
Actually, I was talking about the car, not the kids & weird-bloke. It's such a shame to see a Skyline rent asunder.


:lol:

Firebird - Yes, I'd wondered about that too. It also says that "friends" introduced them 2 YEARS before. Friends introduce a 13 year old GIRL to a 31 year old man so that they can date?

My opinion on this is somewhat... Open to flaming.

I know there's laws about "sexual penetration of children under 16", statutory rape, etc, etc, but in my opinion, if the underage female consents then there's no problem. In someone over 16 it's not rape if it's consentual, is it? I think the same thing should be said for under 16-year-olds.

The only problem with this is that a rapist may say it was consentual in a court of law, that would complicate matters extremely.
 
Stinky Chicken
My opinion on this is somewhat... Open to flaming.

I know there's laws about "sexual penetration of children under 16", statutory rape, etc, etc, but in my opinion, if the underage female consents then there's no problem. In someone over 16 it's not rape if it's consentual, is it? I think the same thing should be said for under 16-year-olds.

The only problem with this is that a rapist may say it was consentual in a court of law, that would complicate matters extremely.

Can a 5 year old girl consent to sex? If not - of course not - where would you draw the line between someone who CAN consent and someone who can't? This is why we have an "Age of Consent" - below that age, consent isn't possible EVEN IF GIVEN.

What about underage boys?
 
CAMAROBOY69
This topic was discussed over in this GTP thread already in the last few pages. Very Very sad. :guilty:
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Actually NOT.. A 33 yo. guy who gets 15 yo's pregnant is not a very great loss IMHO... She let him do that, which gives her about the same status in my book. Then there's the driver. 21 yo thinking he can 200 in a 50 zone.. It's just Darwin doing his thing.....

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Then again - it IS slightly sad. They killed a Skyline while cleaning the genepool... That sucks...
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Famine
Can a 5 year old girl consent to sex? If not - of course not - where would you draw the line between someone who CAN consent and someone who can't? This is why we have an "Age of Consent" - below that age, consent isn't possible EVEN IF GIVEN.

What about underage boys?

This is very true, I can't argue with you there.

I wonder if they couldn't lower the age of consent...? No, that wouldn't work either. Okay, good points there. Scrap my idea. 👍
 
He was demonstrating poor driving skills BY speeding. It's a very circular argument.

At 120mph he was airborne, There's not a lot of driving skill - or computer jiggery-pokery - that can help you at that point. If he hadn't been at 120mph (in a 30mph zone), he wouldn't have been airborne - or at least not for so long. This crash is attributable only to speed - speed which came about from poor driving skill.
 
Poor driving skills, and a lack of common sense/intelligence, which I forgot to add to my previous post.
 
I have to agree with Flerbizky. The only remorse I feel is for the Skyline, and the unborn baby. Everyone else involved sounded like real winners (A pregnant 15 year old, a 33 year old who had sex with said 15 year old, and the moronic 21 year old who not only drove at 200km/h in a 50 zone, but also did it with his pregnant sister in the car...).
 
Ev0
I have to agree with Flerbizky. The only remorse I feel is for the Skyline, and the unborn baby. Everyone else involved sounded like real winners (A pregnant 15 year old, a 33 year old who had sex with said 15 year old, and the moronic 21 year old who not only drove at 200km/h in a 50 zone, but also did it with his pregnant sister in the car...).


i was gonna say that.

they all sound AND look like REAL winners.

sure there wasn't drug use involved?
 
Famine
At 120mph he was airborne, There's not a lot of driving skill - or computer jiggery-pokery - that can help you at that point. If he hadn't been at 120mph (in a 30mph zone), he wouldn't have been airborne - or at least not for so long. This crash is attributable only to speed - speed which came about from poor driving skill..
2 of my best friends died this way in high school. They were going 110 on a hilly road that was 45mph. The car left the ground and ended up 10 feet off the ground . They died instantly and the car was still stuck wrapped around the tree when the police arrived. Yup 10 ft off the ground! Sad but its their fault. They had no one to blame for their stupidity. Sad to say they were my best friends but I dont feel sorry for them thats just how life goes.
 
well generally if you were going to go 120 down a road, wouldnt it be nice to know what is down the road first? or maybe he was just trying to get the car airborne in the first place??
 
Yeah, it could've been murder or in spite of the father.
 
i head this a while ago, unbelivable, and if hed just listen to his dad that car could one day been his, such a nice car. apparenlty that car was in issue 14 of SPEED, (Australian magazine). 200kph in 50 zone, so so so stupid.
 
More interesting news for you


The driver (son of the owner) actually had his own R33 Skyline GTR (the previous model), but crashed it not too long before he crashed this one.

He got out unharmed in the R33 crash but the car was a write off.
 
I only feel remorse for the child and the car... The dude driving was an idiot, the 33 year old impregnated a 15 year old and the 15 year old and her family allowed the 33 year old to do that. It's just not right.
 
Stinky Chicken
Even the unborn baby was probably going to end up a bastard. I don't even feel remorse for that.
Yeah, probably would have been true, I don't think too many sucessful people have teenage mothers :indiff:

And as a Skyline fanboy, I think the guy got what was coming to him. He drives like a complete and utter jackass, and ruins what is many people's dream car, one that was most likely given to him by his parents. This is why stupid people should not be allowed to operate heavy and/or powerful machinery.
 
I agree. Destroying two Godzilla's for fracks sake. The less of these sorts of people on the road the better.

Dad was telling me about this young guy at his work and that he had already written off about three cars within a year or so (all in stupid ways).

I asked him to tell the moron to keep away from Skylines (a few guys at his work have sold their old cars and bought Skylines because they keep getting beaten by Dad at the lights - and still do now they have Skylines...).

These sorts of people are what are called boy racers. They don't buy cars for anything other than speed.
 
There'd been like 4 fatal accidents involving teenagers in 4 consectutive nights, this was the first. Now Aussie gov'ts cracking down and every teenager will have to pay for some stupid ********s mistakes. I know it's for safety but if that wankers can't drive we (Aussie teenagers) should be punished.

What do you think about everyone else being limited because of their mistakes?
 
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