British Sports Car Test

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This is my first write up so bear with me. I'm road testing four modern British made (well British makes, even if the company is now owned by a foreign company) sports cars. They all have similar power and are around the same price, though there is some variation, but i tried to keep it close.

The line up is as follows:

Jaguar XKR R-Performance '02 - 389 bhp, 1735 kg
Aston Martin DB9 Coupe '03 - 449 bhp, 1710 kg
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00 - 361 bhp, 1100 kg
Lotus Esprit V8 '02 - 353 bhp, 1380 kg



The power information was taken from the track screen not from garage info. All tests were carried out with N2 tyres fitted and the car completely

The plan is to take each car to the Test Ccourse for timed runs from 0-400m and 0-1000m, 0-60mph and 0-100mph times will also be taken along with top speed. While there i'll do a top gear (for those who watch it) style test, drive along the long straight at high speed and see how well the cars handle at 100+mph

After that ill take each car for a lap run around a track, though at the moment im undecided which one, probably Midfield, Deep Forest or Grand Valley and compare how the perform at the track.

By the way i have the PAL version of the game.

See the next post for my day at the Test Course.
 
rovens
This is my first write up so bear with me. I'm road testing four modern British made (well British makes, even if the company is now owned by a foreign company) sports cars. They all have similar power and are around the same price, though there is some variation, but i tried to keep it close.

The line up is as follows:

Jaguar XKR R-Performance '02 - 389 bhp, 1735 kg
Aston Martin DB9 Coupe '03 - 449 bhp, 1710 kg
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00 - 361 bhp, 1100 kg
Lotus Esprit V8 '02 - 353 bhp, 1380 kg



The power information was taken from the track screen not from garage info. All tests were carried out with N2 tyres fitted and the car completely

The plan is to take each car to the Test Ccourse for timed runs from 0-400m and 0-1000m, 0-60mph and 0-100mph times will also be taken along with top speed. While there i'll do a top gear (for those who watch it) style test, drive along the long straight at high speed and see how well the cars handle at 100+mph

After that ill take each car for a lap run around a track, though at the moment im undecided which one, probably Midfield, Deep Forest or Grand Valley and compare how the perform at the track.

By the way i have the PAL version of the game.

See the next post for my day at the Test Course.

Look forward to it.......

Although the cars are not quite similarly priced, its hard enough to find a handfull of "British-linked" sports cars fullstop, let alone any made by a British company ;).

As for your test tracks, I would suggest the Nuburgring for one, the reason being that it is a very complex track that will give you some idea how the car drives for a long(er) period, it also shows any high-speed handling issues, secondly I would use Tsukuba, although its a short track its quite technical and you can put down a lot of good laps in a short amount of time, it has pretty much every type of corner thrown in for good measure.

Dan.
 
Nice idea, looks like this could be a good write up...

It's just given me an idea for a write up too, but I'll reveal that when I reveal it, hee hee...
 
We arrived at the Test Course on a sunny Friday afternoon to see four brand new sports cars gleaming in the sunlight, the crew were just finishing polishing them while we walked around admiring them. Well no time to stare, on with the driving...

For the purposes of this test these cars were all fitted with standard road tyres (N2's) and all electronic aids TCS, ASC were turned off.

Deciding to take the Jag out first i belted myself in and started up the engine.

Jaguar XKR R-Performance '02 - 389 bhp



0-400m; 12.642s
0-1000m; 22.995s
0-60mph; 4.555s
0-100mph; 10.115s
Top Speed; 177mph

This car felt more like a luxury coupe than a sports model, though it is the fastest of the four to 60mph and there is very little wheelspin it never really feels powerful. The engine does not realy make its presence felt, it doesnt have the sound that i like to hear from a fast car. This car is the lowest revving with gear changes coming at 6600rpm and once you get into top gear it just idles with no power available, resulting in the lowest top speed of the day.

On my high speed handling run the soft ride suspension setup was detrimental to handling, the car felt heavy and the body roll meant that the back end went easily and was hard to recover.

Ok so this wasn't the best car to drive, but I was spending the afternoon driving expensive cars very fast, who am I to complain.

Now I went back and fired up the DB9 for its run.

Aston MartinDB9 Coupe '03 - 449 bhp



0-400m; 12.554s
0-1000m; 22.677s
0-60mph; 4.869s
0-100mph; 10.107s
Top Speed; 191mph

The moment I pressed the badged start button and heard that 6 litre V12 fire up I knew i was going to to prefer this car to the Jag, that sound is awesome. The car is only marginaly lighter than the Jaguar and a lot heavier than the other two cars on test, but the performance is amazing. You can go to 7000rpm before you even think about changing gear, and with a massive power band you are never short of torque. At 191mph this car recorded the joint highest speed of the afternoon. The handling on this car is surprising for its 1.7 tons of weight, the stiff supension meant that i could get the car through 60 degrees at 140mph, hold it there and still bring it back.

When i came back to change cars, i was still beaming from ear to ear in satisfaction. Next up was the TVR Speed 6, which has a reputation as a car that bites back, well lets see how big it's bite is...

TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00 - 361bhp



0-400m; 12.798s
0-1000m; 22.785s
0-60mph; 4.847s
0-100mph; 10.027s
Top Speed; 186mph

This was the original Tuscan, TVR have now released an updated model that has been tamed (slightly) with the additions of ABS brakes and other driver friendly aids. That version wasn't available to us so we have the original 'balls out' Tuscan. At 361bhp this car has less grunt than the Ston and the Jaguar, but the 4litre Straight Six still sounds miles better than the Jag (and I was to later find out the Lotus as well). Acceleration was good with a lot of power being available right the way up to a screaming 7600rpm, however the slender weight of this car, only 1100kg, means that in first gear the wheels spin a lot. This car was the fastest to 100mph and reached a respectable 186mph top speed. At high speeds this car feels planted on the road, there is very little body roll and maybe a touch of understeer. Its hard to get thios car sideways but if you do its even harder to recover it. This has to be my favorite car of the day, not necessarily the best but the most fun and in my eyes, the best looking.

The day was drawing to a close now, with just one car left to test we did a quick check on track temperatures to ensure they wouldn't skew our results. The track was fine so i fired up the V8 on the Esprit and headed out.

Lotus Esprit V8 '02 - 353 bhp



0-400m; 12.890s
0-1000m; 23.270s
0-60mph; 4.608s
0-100mph; 10.878s
Top Speed; 191mph

This was the only car i drove fitted with a turbo, despite beign the least powerful its times were respectable. I didnt enjoy driving this car though, from the looks to the sound to the performance it just doesnt seem right. It was the slowest to do the kilometer but did manage to post a top speed of 191mph, the same as the DB9. One thing that i couldn't fault was the handling, there is a touch of oversteer but this is easily controlled and the car goes exactly where you want it.


As evening drew in I sat in a country pub with my crew and we discussed the four cars, all coming to the same conlcusion. the DB9 was without doubt the best car that day, but if we could take any one home there would have been a fight for the keys of the Tuscan.

Well having written this I can retire to bed to prepare for the weekend, we shall see how these cars handle when driven round a track.
 
Tsukubu seems like a good option, i cant drive the 'ring consistently enough to go there. Reckon Tsukubu is where I'll go, it takes roughly the same time to get round as the TOop Gear track and then i can test the cars in the wet to.
 
nicely done. it'll be interesting seeing what the lap times are like.
My guess is that slow and steady wins the race.... possibly the lotus on technical tracks and the tvr on open ones.

keep going, this is interesting :)
 
How are the tests going? ..................waited the whole weekend and............nothing :indiff: haha.
Are u also going to test the Tsukuba dry and wet tracks?
I did some testing with the cars fully tuned...........the Lotus is a beast with almost 900kw, but the turbos lag terribly in the low revs, so it struggles a bit out of slow corners. I found the Jag to be the slowest of the four. The Aston :) will always be my favourite as I think it is the most beautiful car ever, just a pity that it is so heavy. :nervous:
Anyway, I'm interested to see your results! 👍
 
Well i basically was drunk from thursday onwards, i was still doing laps but as you can imagine the times were a bit off. Ill give a basic rundown so far...

1st - Tuscan Speed 6, this was slow untill i figured it out, definately the hardest to drive but when you get it right its the fastest

2nd - DB9, this is easy to drive the weight gives it some oversteer but its so easy to control

3rd - XKR, don't like it but it drives ok... i guess...

4th - Esprit, i reckon it should be faster than the jag, i just havent put a perfect lap together yet
 
rovens
Well i basically was drunk from thursday onwards, i was still doing laps but as you can imagine the times were a bit off. Ill give a basic rundown so far...

1st - Tuscan Speed 6, this was slow untill i figured it out, definately the hardest to drive but when you get it right its the fastest

2nd - DB9, this is easy to drive the weight gives it some oversteer but its so easy to control

3rd - XKR, don't like it but it drives ok... i guess...

4th - Esprit, i reckon it should be faster than the jag, i just havent put a perfect lap together yet

Great excuse mate! :) That isn't such a bad idea, you can drive crap out of a car WHILE you are drinking! hahaha . I always wanted to take the DB9 for a spin after a few beers! :crazy:
 
Good news, i have three tests done, but for some reason i started a 24hr race earlier. Only the Tuscan left to go though.
 
Well due to track availability and a complete lack of organisational skill it took a while to get the cars together for the road test at Midfield race track. A map of which can be seen here.



Again weather had been favourable, giving us a sunny day with little cloud. Again the cars were stock with N2 tyres fitted. I spent the morning learning the track in a hatchback, despite being familiar with the track i did not want any unexpected occurences to ruin the days driving. I decided to run the cars in the same order as the first tests.

Jaguar XKR R-Performance '02 - 389 bhp



Best Lap: 1'27.414
1st Sector: 27.996
2nd Sector: 27.307
3rd Sector: 32.111
Top Speed: 145.3 mph

I felt that this car was ruined by its soft suspension, this may suit business men commuting along the M1 everyday but for ripping up the tarmac at a race course it is of little uose. When you couple this with the weight of the car you get massive oversteer. The best example of this was going round turn six where the car just kept leaning further and further over so it became looser as it got into the corner, by the end of the turn I was wrestling with the wheel to keep the car on the track. The weight transfer is slow so through the 'S' bends, three and four, the car would suddenly shift weight coming out of turn four and put the car in an all wheel slide towards the grass. Getting sideways in this car is not fun, if I was driving on the road and got sideways I would already be calling my insurance company. The brakes are adequate allowing me to brake from highspeed into turn 1, but the car will nose dive quite a lot.

I cannot say that I overly enjoyed driving this car, however it does have potential, with the addition of the optional sports handling package, which stiffens suspension, adds better brakes and a bit more power, this car could be a lot faster. In stock form however there are better places to spend your money.

Aston MartinDB9 Coupe '03 - 449 bhp



Best Lap: 1'26.502
1st Sector: 27.635
2nd Sector: 27.408
3rd Sector: 31.459
Top Speed: 149.8 mph

Following the straight line tests I was itching to fire up that throbbing V8 again, I thought this car had the potential to be very fast. At first i didnt even notice the wieght of the car, its stiff suspension stopping excessive body roll and making it handle like a dream, with just a touch of oversteer. To begin with I forgot I was handling a 1.7 ton car and thought I was throwing an Elise around the track. The car is tail happy but there is so much grip at the front that I (an inexperienced drifter) could hold the car sideways and bring it back. From the start this car feels and sounds fast, reaching 150mph at the end of the pit straight before slamming the brakes on and turning into turn one. After driving for pure fun for about 6 laps I began to take more notice of the car, while the tail out attitude was awseome to see on camera after I began to realise that it was costing me time and settled down to some proper grip driving. Slowly as the laps built up my illusions of the car being faultless were eroded. The looseness at high speeds cost alot of time especially at turns two ,three, four and five where I would have to either come of the throttle or risk sliding off the track. The weight of this car, coupled with my stock road tyres meant that round tight corners, such as six and eight the car pulled outwards.

These faults can be overlooked however, simply for the fun that this car is to drive. It occupies the same market slot as the XKR but does the job so much better. This car was very consistent with all 20 laps being with 0.5 seconds of each other. The sense of speed that this car gives is phenomenal, when I drove back to the pits I was suprised to see my time was not in the 1'25's but due the slides I just couldn't get round the track any faster than I did. Simply with the addition of stickier tyres this car would eat lighter sports cars for breakfast, or just scare them off the road with its roar.

TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00 - 361bhp



Best Lap: 1'24.636
1st Sector: 26.707
2nd Sector: 26.704
3rd Sector: 31.225
Top Speed: 151.1 mph

From earlier testing I knew that this car would be completely different to drive from the tail happy DB9 which I had just exited from. The car sat there, menacing, almost daring me to take it out and push it, never one to turn down a challenge I fired her up. First thing I noticed (other than the smell of glue in the cockpit) was that this car is TIGHT, very tight. The suspension is stiff like a race cars, the car remains flat and there is no feel of weight shift inertia. There is absolutely no oversteer, if you push this car too hard it just wont turn at all. This was a steep learning curve indeed, but after 10 laps I began to get the most from the car realising that I could put together faster lap times by not pushingf the car to its maximum all the time. This car would do 155mph down the long straight but it would be hard to get into turn one. The only way to turn with this car is to brake early and hard, no trail braking here, then wrench the car round the corner. The stiff suspension induces quite heavy oversteer which makes hitting the apex of corners hard at high speed, especially through turns one and two and the S bend. The last sector was the hardest to do in this car, the poor trail braking characteristics making turns seven and eight a real challenge to get round. The power to weight ratio of this car meant that acceleration out of the corners was enough to throw me back in my seat. This car really does bite back though, it's understeer nearly putting me in the wall on a few occasions, but once you realise to just let the car drive itself round the track the times just get faster and faster. with more laps I'm sure i could have broken into the 1'23's.

I re-entered the pits after 20 laps absolutely shattered, but elated. I couldn't claim I had tamed the beast, but who would want to tame this car, just reach an understanding with it and there will be few cars in its class (if any) that can touch it. Not for the fainthearted.

Lotus Esprit V8 '02 - 353 bhp



Best Lap: 1'26.224
1st Sector: 27.481
2nd Sector: 26.618
3rd Sector: 32.125
Top Speed: 145.1 mph

After a period to recover from my wrestle with the Tuscan I took the Esrit out on track. Now this car also understeers but it did not feel beneficial in the same way that the Tuscan did. The car suffers from 'lift off' oversteer while at high speed it will understeer. I could not find any consistency with this car, my next fastest lap was a full 1.2 seconds slower than my best lap. The acceleration is good and it does not handle terribly I just couldn't find any kind of rythem with the car. A lot of time was spent off the track with me banging my head on the wheel trying to figure outr what to do to get round the track. I cannot be sure what gave me so many problems with the car, there is no body roll to speak of and the acceleration and top speed are good.

I really didn't get on with this car at all, despite it giving the second fastest lap time. Theres is just no feel to the car, I dont like the styling and the sound is nothing to be proud of, if you want a Lotus buy an Elise.


Here is a graph showing the sector times for each car so that you can compare them, this graph highlights a few things. For example the problem the Esprit had with the final sector where it lost time to both the XKR and the DB9.



Here are the final lap times in one place just to make reading easier.

1st - TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00, 361bhp - 1'24.636
2nd - Lotus Esprit V8 '02, 353 bhp - 1'26.224
3rd - Aston MartinDB9 Coupe '03, 449 bhp - 1'26.502
4th - Jaguar XKR R-Performance '02, 389 bhp - 1'27.414



Well I after my couple of days driving these cars I guess i have to choose winner, its not going to be the XKR or the Esprit, both feel like they aren't really there and are no fun to drive. The DBP nearly swings it with its looks, its sound and the fact that its pure unadulterated fun to drive. I'm going to have to go with the Tuscan though, to me its a beautiful car. it is lightweight and fast, when handled correctly nothing can catch it. What more could you want.


Hope you all enjoyed this...


Robin.
 
rovens
First thing I noticed (other than the smell of glue in the cockpit)...

LOL. How true... still love that car, even if it's not quite the same as in GT3.
 
cause your a dork! :p

just kidding! :)

good stuff mate. shame you couldnt get the hang of the lotus. do you think its because it was the only MR there?
 
I saw that yesterday...........the Aston V8.................. :dunce: but I knew it was the alcohol talking! :dopey:
Nice tests mate, but don't you think that the cars should be tested with Sports tyres? They do come stock with high peformance radials 👍
 
Well I was under the impression that the sports tyres were the equivilant of slicks that required heat before they would grip properly, in retrospect maybe i should have used N3's.
 
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