Drifting tips for DFP please

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OK, I did a search for this and nothing came up, so if a topic has been done, please point me to it, otherwise...

I just bought a DFP this weekend, My goodness, what a difference it's made to my racing... But Drifting!!! OUCH

I used to be able to complete full laps, linking corners and holding long drifts with my DS2, I can't even get one corner with my DFP now...

I need hints, tips and any advise from those who already drift with the DFP (Please, no practice comments, I know that already)

Please help guys...

ViX
 
It's pretty much an adaption thing to the DFP.

Do all the licenses again to speed up the steering, so you know what your doing.

Oh, and don't worry about the huge noise your going to make countersteering ;)
 
1, dont worry about breaking it. i abuse mine almost daily, since gt4 came out if that tells you anything.
2, learn to spin the wheel fast.
3, if you get the usual problem, ie brake or accel stick, make a post somewhere about it and im sure someone will help you. i went through it, fixed it, and has been fine for the last month.
4, find a stable place to mount it. i hate nothing more than the dfp itself wobbling and moving around.
5, pratice with it ALOT. dont give up. i was tempted to, but i just kept going, and got used to it.
 
haha im kind of a oddball, if i start something with a game, i don't stop, even if i hate it and its awful. it felt crazy at the start using the dfp, but i did not use a regular controller before i started with the dfp and i still have not used a normal controller while playing. yeah something stable will really help, i actually took a seat out of one of my project cars to use as a seat <8- P
yeah, and as suzuki mentioned, don't worry about breaking it. it sounds like a supercharger whining when im playing :) you paid good money for it, put it to use.
 
blargonator
haha im kind of a oddball, if i start something with a game, i don't stop, even if i hate it and its awful. it felt crazy at the start using the dfp, but i did not use a regular controller before i started with the dfp and i still have not used a normal controller while playing. yeah something stable will really help, i actually took a seat out of one of my project cars to use as a seat <8- P
yeah, and as suzuki mentioned, don't worry about breaking it. it sounds like a supercharger whining when im playing :) you paid good money for it, put it to use.
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BAHAHAHAHA thats great!
yeah, another thing, learn to get used to the noise. remember, they can prob hear it on the other side of your house. im sure others can hear mine.
 
GET THE RIGHT STEERING SETTINGS!! You should turn off.......HELP! What was the steering setting "aid" you should turn off again? It's something with......"force:.....:irked::p I guess that doesn't help I think....

Suzuki got it right, you should begin countersteering in steps too. If you feint, left corner, you go right and then throw it left again. The timing in wich you need to begin countersteering is the point when right goes into left, get it? So it's just when the car is straight for a milisecond because you've steered left again. It's difficult to explain, but you basically should countersteer before you even see smoke...
 
If your wheel mount is steady enough to drift in 900° mode with force feedback, then you're all set. If not, wait for the game to load and the wheel to calibrate itself, then unplug the power. You can then throw the wheel around freely at high speed, but the trade is that you won't have force feedback.

Beyond that, it's all about learning how much you have to turn the DFP to affect your front wheels' steering angle. There's a very good exercise you can try to get used to this:

While sitting in place, switch to the chase cam and hold down the rear-view button. You should be looking at the front of your car. Begin steering. Take note of the angle of the front wheels in 90° increments of the DFP. What I mean is to do this:

1. Turn your wheel 90° to the right. Remember the front wheel angle.
2. Turn your wheel another 90° to the right. Remember the front wheel angle.
3. Continue doing this until you can memorize your front wheel angle in correlation with the steering wheel position.

The goal here is to be able to position your car at any given angle (well, any given angle that's suitable for drifting), and have the ability to very quickly and precisely position your steering wheel so that your front wheels are parallel to the inside line of the turn. Starting at 90° increments is best, and eventually you'll be able to break those down into 45° increments, and so on.

Memorizing these positions will help you drift consistently and allow you to hold very steady drifts. Your drifts will look 10x more graceful when the front wheels aren't constantly moving due to under and over correction.
 
here are a few tips. Here's a pretty easy technique called a light feint drift

A. approach the corner the corner at about the same speed you would gripping.
B. turn towards the opposite direction of the corner a few feet before the normal turning pt and wait untill the car feels as if it is about to snap back... wait as long as possible.
C. trace normal raceline while countersteering. be sure not to countersteer too much and feather the throttle if you are losing too much grip.

D. try and come out of the drift without nasty snapback.

In the end its all just practice, experience and skill.. all the advice in the world cant replace skill and experience.

Also. i try and be smooth as possible. if you are nervous the car will be nervous. Unless you are manji drifting :)
 
The best advice...practice....We all have different styles and entries....not everyone is the same....MY advice is to take a variety of cars and try drifting them stock in arcade....once you find the one tune it! all this while practicing with dfp.. OR get xlink and play online....you will be amazed on how much faster you learn by watching someone else. Drift it if you got it. Drift on
 
Thanks all,

I'm gonna try out everything you've said and see where it gets me. As for all the practice hints, lol, I know I learnt to drift with my DS2 through practice... ;)

My first goal is the secure my DFP, it's on my dining room table right now which isn't too sturdy, the whole table slides when I counter steer... I'm gonna be building a cockpit this weekend, so that should fix that....

I did notice that you need to countersteer kinda fast with the DFP, so I'll work on that too.

Thanks again all.
 
ViXeN
I need hints, tips and any advise from those who already drift with the DFP
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All right... this worked for me:

a) choose a car that WILL go sideways all the time. use tire mix if you must (for a start)
b) change to 200° mode
c) turn on the DFP-wheel-display-thing (so you see the wheel on the screen)
d) do like, 20 drift laps on the nürburgring in 200° mode
e) go back to 900° mode... et voila. surprise, surprise... now it works

I think the key is seeing how the wheel turns on the screen while drifting in 200° mode. This gives you an idea on how much countersteer is applicable + how fast your wheelwork has to be.

Good luck.
 
Mr. Apex
All right... this worked for me:

a) choose a car that WILL go sideways all the time. use tire mix if you must (for a start)
b) change to 200° mode
c) turn on the DFP-wheel-display-thing (so you see the wheel on the screen)
d) do like, 20 drift laps on the nürburgring in 200° mode
e) go back to 900° mode... et voila. surprise, surprise... now it works

I think the key is seeing how the wheel turns on the screen while drifting in 200° mode. This gives you an idea on how much countersteer is applicable + how fast your wheelwork has to be.

Good luck.
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Note that this is very UNUSUAL learn method:irked:..................:scared::lol:;)
I just advice, honda S2000 and Apricot Hill raceway, with all these weard tips you might be able to drift one day earlier then normal. I would just recomend trial and error, and.......all drifting is is throttle and countersteer, so keep adjusting those. ONLY REAL TIP I CAN GIVE YOU NOW, IS TO WATCH REPLAYS!!
Helps alot;)
 
200 mode with the dfp is for noobs :) (newb has different meaning from noob)


the dfp is not meant to be played with 200 mode. :dunce:
 
I'm in your same position, I just recently changed wheels, and the thing is, I have problems adjusting to the steering ratio! I beleive it's because it takes more to turn with the DFP(900 degrees supposed to what I had before).

Just for getting used to the wheel all together, how do you change the wheel to 200 mode, rather than 900?
 
lllb0y
I'm in your same position, I just recently changed wheels, and the thing I have problems adjusting with is the steering ratio, it takes more to turn with the DFP.

Just for getting used to the wheel all together, how do you change the wheel to 200 mode, rather than 900?
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i wouldnt use 200* mode. but thats just me. if you search around youll find the answer as how to change from 900 to 200.
 
I figured it all out this weekend, and the simple answer is.... Build a cockpit... hehe..

I finished my cockpit and it made ahuge difference, I can drift again... YAY!!!

I think the main problem I had was that the DFP was not stable on the dining room table, it moved if I put too much pressure on it... So now that it's secure on my cockpit, it works like a charm...
 
I have a sturdy base, but I just cannot drift at all. I cant even drive grip with it. The best thing I've tried so far is after the wheel calibrates itself, unplug the power. Is this a bad or good idea?
 
Jerg Rush
I have a sturdy base, but I just cannot drift at all. I cant even drive grip with it. The best thing I've tried so far is after the wheel calibrates itself, unplug the power. Is this a bad or good idea?
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Wait, is it the force feedback that you can't get used to?
Just play with it for a while then eventually you'll get there.
 
its probably because you just arent "listening" to the car. The wheel isnt much harder to turn with force feedback on.
 
Gabkicks
its probably because you just arent "listening" to the car. The wheel isnt much harder to turn with force feedback on.
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exactly. i drif with the wheel on full strength feedback, and i do well imo. just get used to it, which takes time, and you will be good to go.
 

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