Audi R8 VS Ferrari F430

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Audi R8 vs. Ferrari F430

specs:

4.2-litres V8 vs. 4.4-litres V8
420 PS @ 7,800 rpm vs. 490 PS @ 8,500 rpm
430 NM @ 4,500 rpm vs. 465 NM @ 5,250 rpm

length x width x height: 4421 x 1904 x 1252 vs. 4512 x 1923 x 1214 mm
wheelbase: 2650 vs. 2600 mm

AWD, 6-speed manual vs. RWD, 6-speed manual

0-100km/h: 4.6 vs. 3.9 secs.

Vmax: 301 vs. 316 km/h

MSRP: 104,400 vs. 149,700 EUR

Round by round:

Round 1: Heritage

Ferrari:
14 F1 constructor´s titles, 14 F1 Driver´s championships, 192 F1 victories, the successors: the 360, 355 GTS, 348 tb

Audi:
five 24 hrs du Mans victories, the successors: Audi quattro, Audi Avus concept


Round 2: Design

Pininfarina vs. Walter da Silva


Round 3: Technology

Audi alu space frame, chassis based on the Lamborghini Gallardo vs. Ferrari alu bodywork
1560 kg vs. 1460 kg
AWD vs. RWD
6-speed manual vs. 6-speed manual with launch control


Round 4: Performance

Ferrari: better acceleration, higher top speed
Audi: more traction and grip, better handling


make your decision now!
 
-> Too bad that the 997 Turbo or the 997 GT3 wasn't here, but if I'd pick between the two...I'll be getting the R8. My preference is handling, and I like the engineering philosophy of the Audi compared to Ferrari. (:
 
Cool im not sure which one I would pick. They are both great. Dont know why only one picture is showing and I cant seem to be able to fix it.
 
I think I'd take the R8, it's not as expensive as the ferrari, it's faster than I'd probably ever go and it looks ten times better. It's not likely to have any problems with the build quality, it's just an all round cool car imo.
 
Poverty
Round 1: Heritage

Ferrari:
14 F1 constructor´s titles, 14 F1 Driver´s championships, 192 F1 victories, the successors: the 360, 355 GTS, 348 tb

Audi:
five 24 hrs du Mans victories, the successors: Audi quattro, Audi Avus concept
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That's comparing apples and oranges. Why don't you include Ferrari's 9 Le Mans victories?

Poverty
Round 4: Performance

Ferrari: better acceleration, higher top speed
Audi: more traction and grip, better handling
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Who decided that?
 
daan
That's comparing apples and oranges. Why don't you include Ferrari's 9 Le Mans victories?


Who decided that?
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I didnt write any of the things in my first post. It was a copy and paste job in which the article was quickly and briefly translated for non-german reading users.
 
The Ferrari F430 has a 4.3L engine--4308cc. You know that, we all know that, but the dude who wrote that obviously didn't.
 
Well, I'll look at it this way. If anything, the Ferrari is the performance champion here. It offers everything that a die-hard sporting driver would want, and then some, plus it will act as civilized as a Prius when it needs to. Certainly so, the Audi can do almost everything in the exact same way as the F430, but it has one major problem: Its heavy, slower, and not quite as razor-edged as the Ferrari.

If price was not a problem, I'd go with the Ferrari... I think any of us would. But if we had to spend our own money and live with the car every day out of the year, the Audi would win-out, hands down.

...But when it comes down to it for me, I'll take neither. Sure, I may be stubborn and a bit one-sided, but I'll still go Z06 in this round. Its cheaper and performs better than both cars, plus we build them in Kentucky, and I can get it serviced damn-near-anywhere in this country. What isn't there to love about that?
 
Comparing the R8 to the more expensive F430 isn't going to do the Audi any favours. By all means, compare it to a 997.
 
Even to a 997, the R8 doesn't look as good, IMO. The Porsche is still cheaper, pretty much a faster car, and still carries far more street-cred than the Audi. I'll hold outright judgment of the car until I get more solid test figures from American sources (should be coming in the next issues of C/D, I think...), but until then, I'll go Z06 for now...
 
-> I know that the R8 is kinda heavy, for some reason, I've never got my interests on the new F430, I don't know why? But if I like true sportscar, even thou its underpowered compared to the others, it gives sheer driving fun. I'd take the NSX-R any day! (:
 
YSSMAN you say the R8 is heavy but doesnt the Z06 weigh just as much?

The R8 is underpowered though. I wish audi was independant, and adopt RWD or overhaul the quattro for a system similier to attessa.
 
The R8 is drop dead gorgeous. Based purely looks, I happily would drive the Audi home and rub it with a diaper in my garage until my wife dragged me away.

But it is priced in 911 GT3 territory and the Turbo lurks not far away. How many sports car diehards would pass up a legendary GT3 for a upstart freshman entry whose qualities are largely unknown? And those who may want something closer to a GT has the BMW M6 sitting in the same price range.

Which puts the R8 in a strange place. Not focused like a GT3. More expensive than the conceptually similar Carrera 4S. Less powerful and less a GT car than the M6. The R8 is neither fish nor fowl... Which may end up being it's strength.


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Poverty
YSSMAN you say the R8 is heavy but doesnt the Z06 weigh just as much?
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No. The Z06 weighs 100kg less than the Gallardo. The R8 is heavier and will be slower than the Gallardo. In addition, the F430 has been looked on as a better car than the Gallardo, so the R8's chances against anything it would compete against (Porsche 911 Turbo, Lamborghini Gallardo, Ferrari F430, Corvette Z06) are severely limited.
 
Poverty
YSSMAN you say the R8 is heavy but doesnt the Z06 weigh just as much?
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To better answer your question:

Audi R8: 3450lbs
Chevrolet Corvette: 3150 (Z06) to 3300 lbs (magna-ride and 6-speed auto)

...Added to that, the Corvette even with the LS2 should out-accelerate the R8 0-60, and may even handle better even with "only" the Z51 package as well. With even more insult to injury, the Corvette also has better gas mileage, and even in base form, has a nearly identical top-speed as the R8 (the Z06 obviously faster at 198, but I've heard claims of 207).
 
YSSMAN
To better answer your question:

Audi R8: 3450lbs
Chevrolet Corvette: 3150 (Z06) to 3300 lbs (magna-ride and 6-speed auto)

...Added to that, the Corvette even with the LS2 should out-accelerate the R8 0-60, and may even handle better even with "only" the Z51 package as well. With even more insult to injury, the Corvette also has better gas mileage, and even in base form, has a nearly identical top-speed as the R8 (the Z06 obviously faster at 198, but I've heard claims of 207).
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The RS4 got a better time round the 'ring than the Z51 C6 so I dont think it will compete with the R8. Its apples and oranges though.
 
The Ferrari does have that little yellow badge on its hood, but it is geared more competitively than the Audi. Here, I guess I would pass up the opportunity to boast of having a Ferrari in my garage. Because I probably would rarely take either to a track, I'd take the livability of the R8. The German is probably far more comfortable, and any performance loss would be justified by that. The R8 does have a better looking body too, IMO.
 
I think for a lot of people it would be considered a draw between the two on looks. I personally like the F430 a lot, but I really do like the R8 as well. They are both pretty sexy, combining a lot of interesting angles and shapes into the design of the respective car. The deciding factor for both is just how civil you want your ride, and just how much money you are willing to pay to go fast.
 

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