Regarding GT4 development, a letter to SCEA!!

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so tell me guys, did i push it too much.
here is a copy of what i sent them:
Dear Sir,
i am writing this e-mail to give out a few remarks. i tried to send them directley but theire website does not service non japenese visitors.
the main concern of my e-mail, and again i am not preaching or demanding anything here, but the request concerns a game called gran turismo 4. i have all previous three installments of this franchise, and i would like to say that they have, and you guys have created a milestone in the video game industry.
Other than not providing the GT Consept version of the game to this part of this earth, i think you guys did a dam good job. but then again when was the american gamer who spends a lot of money buying sony products ever worth listening to.
But my main objective from this e-mail is to point out 2 things, which to me are considered to be a flaw in the gran turismo series. every copy of the gran turismo series i have bought, i was buying with the hopes of such a flaw could have been corrected.
that flaw is in the rally cars that gt series have an abondened number of cars in it. since the GT series are called driving simulation they should simulate what these cars do in reall life.
Reall Rally cars rattle and emit loud noises and produce the BANG BANG effect, a term used by rally personal, that is something that rally cars in the GT series do not do.
the next thing is the hand brake delema. reall rally cars keep on moving through theire front wheel drive even when the handbrake is applied. something that the GT series is yet still to master.
I hope my remarks are not taken offensifley. if i did not care about the product that Sony is providing i would not even care in taking some of my time in writing this e-mail.
i hope my e-mail will reach the appropriate people. and it's faith won't be as so many other e-mails, the recycle bin in windows or the trash if you are using a mac computer.
thank you for your time and have a nice day.
P.S.
Will we as americans, ever see the game formula 1 by sony released here in the U.S. thank you.:D
 
You've got a good point there indead, but you just have to wait until they answer your e-mail. And that's something they don't do that often. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by RallyF1
and it's faith won't be as so many other e-mails, the recycle bin in windows or the trash if you are using a mac computer.
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But what if they're using Linux?!?!?!?!:eek:
 
Originally posted by RallyF1
so tell me guys, did i push it too much.
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You made some good points about the Rally mode. Hopefully you used a spelling/grammer checker before you shipped it off to Sony. Let us know if you get a response.

MG
 
Originally posted by Dirkiyo
You've got a good point there indead, but you just have to wait until they answer your e-mail. And that's something they don't do that often. :rolleyes:
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guys regarding the linux comment that was a good one:D
regarding my spelling i wrote sent and then i read it and found out the horrible gramatical mistakes i made:O
and regarding theire response here you go:
Hello ???,(took out my name:D :D )

Your feedback is very important to us.

We value your input and appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Please
rest assured that we
will convey your concerns to Sony Computer Entertainment America's ("SCEA")
appropriate management.


Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) is engaged in extensive research and
development in many
areas, including without limitation, consumer toys and games, computer and video
entertainment
products, and other products for consumer marketplace. In the course of its
business, SCEA receives
from others, including its own employees and employees of its affiliates,
numerous submissions of
concepts, ideas, or designs for products. Additionally, SCEA may have
developed, or may in the
future develop, materials similar or identical to those presented to SCEA by
you. Hence, SCEA is
unable to accept unsolicited submissions of ideas and inventions, and we
apologize for the
inconvenience.

SCEA appreciates your enthusiasm and continued interest in our products. We
hope that you will
continue to support SCEA products and wish you the very best.

Please note that you will not be entitled to any compensation for any submitted
materials nor will
you be entitled to compensation because of the use by SCEA or any of its
affiliates of any such
similar or identical material.

If you have further questions regarding this message, please refer to your email
case?????(took out the case number again :D :D :D )
so there you have it.
maybe they will notice what i asked for and correct it
:trouble:
 
At least the message got to it's destiny. Now let's pray that it was not in vain. :)
Great stuff RallyF1 :cool:
 
Kudos for the effort RallyF1! Looks like Sony sent you a form letter reply though. Or as we say around here, "Hope you wore your sunblock, because Sony just blew sunshine up your butt!". :D

The good news is that they acknowledge that they received it. Hopefully someone from SCEA will follow up with a more personal response.

Hold your head high. most people wouldn't have made the effort.

MG
 
A++ for the effort :D
I hope they correct that...
one thing u forgot too mention was that the rally tracks are... well... tracks... Rally is supposed too be from one point too another... newayz:rolleyes:
 
You actually thought Sony was going to listen to you?

Nice try, but these things never work.
 
Originally posted by SCEA
"SCEA may have developed, or may in the future develop, materials similar or identical to those presented to SCEA by
you. Hence, SCEA is unable to accept unsolicited submissions of ideas and inventions

Please note that you will not be entitled to any compensation for any submitted materials nor will you be entitled to compensation because of the use by SCEA or any of its affiliates of any such
similar or identical material."
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Originally posted by RallyF1
maybe they will notice what i asked for and correct it
:trouble:
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You appear to have missed the point of their response.

Added to that, what do you want SCEA to do about it? They have absolutely nothing to do with the "development" of GT4 - it's all PD, under the wings of SCE - SCEA is just a branch office which decides on what games SCE produce should arrive on America's shores.

(edit: I'm aware that this is a mildly resurrected thread, but there is a link to it in another active thread)
 
MILDLY RESURRECTED? I Look at the post dates, and the first one before Famine's post is May 30, 2003. Then after the post, I see April 22, 2004. Pretty brave to save an obsolete, 11-month thread...

For the most part, I can imagine that any fans of Sony Computer Entertainment or any division thereof, they will willingly accept compliments. But as hard as they work, I just don't see anyone getting through to PD or SCE with GT4 ideas. I mean, that's how I feel.
 
"Unsolicited" = Bring a suitcase full of cash before complaining to Sony.

And they don't want to get sued by you because said party stole your ideas from an email you sent them when they were bored.

However, you might want to work on you spelling, grammar and layout skills before sending them something like that again.
 
Who's to say that PD have not tried to implement, or have implemented, what u have talked about in your e-mail?

:trouble:
 
Noone, but I doubt if any of it is in there it's due to the e-mail. I doubt that e-mail got passed some nobody sat in the SCEA office who just hit a button which sent a standard reply for that kind of e-mail. Theres about 0.001% chance it got passed that point.
 
You write to any game company in the world and you'll get the same sort of response as you did there from Sony. They are more likely (game companies) to go around fan sites and forums to gather ideas then they are to take in ideas which you personally send to them.
 
If they read every e-mail with a new idea I doubt GT4 would finnished this decade. In my office we just have a standard reply to certain types of e-mail, and I'm betting we have more free time than the guys at PD.
 
Originally posted by Mustang-man
You write to any game company in the world and you'll get the same sort of response as you did there from Sony. They are more likely (game companies) to go around fan sites and forums to gather ideas then they are to take in ideas which you personally send to them.
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In fact that applies to MANY companies - I recall sending ideas to Lego in Denmark when I was 10 and receiving a very similar response.


PD almost certainly have a presence here, and I suspect at Racing-Line also. It's inconceivable to think they wouldn't trawl the largest and most popular (and literate) fan sites on the internet for their games when coming up with new ideas for a sequel. Several of Yamauchi-chan's statements seem to express disappointment that he cannot include a certain idea in GT4, many of which I've seen expressed here many weeks and months beforehand.
 
I've been told by Sony NZ numerous times that Sony have looked through my Gran Turismo website before. Probably at the hundreds (4 pages) of GT4 ideas i've compiled. But i really do think that someone from Sony has seen the site.

http://gtsc.netfirms.com/index.htm
In serious need of an update i know, but one is approching and i now have pictures for every one of my 38+ Skylines. :)
 
Car to share them, because I don't think theres been anywhere near 38 different Skylines seen in GT4 pics so far and you don't have that many in your list, the site is good, but your car list is ou of date, you need a hell of a lot more Marcos's including the Ugly Duckling and there are others which I won't list for the sake of my own time.
 
Well yeah i last updated it in January.
I have the site all updated (well nearly al) offline but haven't uploaded it yet.

If someone could help me out by e-mailing up-to-date confirmed car lists and anything else then i'd greatly appreciate it. You'll be credited on the site too. :cool:
 
Have spent lot of time reading all this posts, links to a different sites and so, and all of it made me very sad.

Unfortunatelly, I haven't seen almost any original idea for the game. Major of propsitions are about topics that clearly can't be done on PS2 hardware, and some of them will never be done, no matter of hardware limitations.

Almost 80% of proposals are regarding different cars, tracks, used cars, weather changes, whatever, which are - IMHO - totally irrelevant for the upgrade of the game, or/and GT gaming experience.

My hope goes that PD will make some improvements in the core of the gameplay, as well as improvements in the field of "out-of-the-race" management. Some ideas that appeared here, as well as in granturismo.com forums (Kenji, legend!) in past three years have been into that direction, and those are higly welcomed. More cars, tracks and so are also welcomed, but that is what can be expected by every sequel.

GT series needs improvent in other ways - and online racing, as well as announced (and higly anticipated, as for me) HDD support are direct moves toward that direction. I deeply hope that GT4 will bring us some totally new ways of enjoying and consuming GT game. Lot of things were announced by PD and Kazonori in different places in last 8 years, but pressure they've had for every new sequel postponed that improvements.

Delays that we're witnessing in last year are giving me hope that we can expect something really special. More answers are just 15 days away.
 
I myself reckon that they should concentrate more on the aspect of speed than underbody lighting effects even tho they do sound rather tempting.What do you think?
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