Can't drive the Escudo?

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Love it, loathe it, ignore it - the Escudo is one of the most controversial cars in the game. Idiots love to wheelie it, cheats love to wheelie it, wallride it then submit the times to online databases... But it's a tricky car to drive on track.

Today I drove it for the first time ever. At the Rome Endurance. No, seriously... I thought I'd pass on my experience, settings and notes to help anyone else who finds the car just too awful to drive on a track.

Settings:
Settings aren't really transferrable, but frankly it's impossible to make the Escudo handle any worse. So you may as well give it a go...

Springs: 14.5/8.5
Ride Height: 75/85
Shocks Bound: 10/10
Shocks Rebound: 10/10
Camber: 3.0/2.0
Toe: 0.5/-2.0
Stabilisers: 4/4

This is all designed to get the rear-end loose - to counter the inherent understeer in a 1881hp 4WD "thing". I may have the Toe wrong - I improvised. If this doesn't work so well for you, try -1.0/-2.0 front/rear.

Brakes: 22/19

Stock stuff. You might like to put the rear higher than the front to induce MORE oversteer, but from the kind of speeds this car is decelerating, I'd suggest sticking like this.

LSD: all settings 5
Gear Ratios: For Rome... Tranny trick, Final 3.200@Auto 24.

If you don't know what the Tranny trick is... Put Final fully right. Then move Auto fully right then fully left (the Escudo has a short Auto anyway, which can mess up the trick). Then move Final to the desired value - in this case 3.200. Only move the Final from then on, depending on the track you want.

Downforce: 0.85/1.08
ASM: 0
TCS: 1
VCD: 10%

Again, to remove understeer.

Driving Tips:
1. The car has horrific turbo lag. Stay above 5500rpm.
2. The car has horrific turbo boost. Watch out at about 6000rpm for a sudden surge.
3. Go low. Use the lowest gear you possibly can for each corner - go a gear lower than the helper suggests.
4. Early turn-in. Normally I'd advise a late turn in for understeer-y cars, but the Escudo is almost impossible to balance on the accelerator properly. It's better to turn in early rather than run out of road.
5. BRAKE! You want to be braking twice as far from a corner as you usually would - you're coming in at F1 speeds in a car twice the weight with half the braking power... Stay in-gear during braking for maximum engine deceleration.
 
Not seen any mirrors recently, have you... :D Or indeed that Veilside Supra you mention in you signature...

Some people LIKE it (I'm not one of them). I just thought I'd help out with some settings & experience to help them drive the bugger...
 
Yeah, I tried to tame the beast, but decided that it wasn't worth it. I blew through one of the rally races, but felt really cheap, so went with an Impreza.
 
Originally posted by Famine
Not seen any mirrors recently, have you... :D Or indeed that Veilside Supra you mention in you signature...

Some people LIKE it (I'm not one of them). I just thought I'd help out with some settings & experience to help them drive the bugger...

The VS Supra owns,SOLID!
 
Originally posted by Famine
Next time I'll charge for them... hehehe... :D

will u give a free vitz/yaris setting too???

or u can just take the easy way and set all down force in front and a lil over half in back
but if u do that u may have a slight oversteer problem
 
Oh I forgot. I got 96 laps in the Endurance... :D

Oddly, this setting actually gives relatively even tyre wear - the fronts take a little more punishment than the back, but not much.
 
Originally posted by Gran Turismo7058
The VS Supra owns,SOLID!


Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? You must be talking to me, because I don't see anybody else around here named Solid.:lol:

OK, enough movie quotes.

The best way to use the Escrapo is without the turbo upgrades, unless you want to do the wheelie trick of course. It races just fine without them. Maybe changing Famine's Shocks Bound levels to 4/4, Shocks Rebound to 8/8, decrease his camber angle to 2.0/1.0 and his Ride Height to 85/60 might make it handle better. Oh, it is best to set the Stabilisers to 6/6 or higher with these settings.
 
If you want to drive the Escudo on ther road, don't give it bigger turbo.
 
In my hardly humble opinion I believe that if you intend to race the escudo on a road course don't use a turbo at all it has the most horsepower and torque already without tuning.
 
It has 4 turbo's as standard, so it's always turbo, what I meant was don't give it the bigger ones you buy.
 
Myself I think the Escudo realy belongs at Pikes Peak Hillclimb:) that is what it was made for in the first place. I hate to see a rally car that is designed to do one thing, and it is not for the asphalt(tarmac). Just my opinion. :eek:
 
funny thing, Famine, a serious hybrider useing stock aftermarket parts on an escudo :odd: :lol: but many really miss the point, using the stage four turbo or stage three is basicly useless, especiely being that the car accells slow, and the turbo charger is bout like hitting a nitrous button at high ends (no im not suggesting GT uses Nitrous, or incorperated with any companys like NOS or NX) but a stock escudo is better than one with aftermarket parts. :mischievous:
 
Famine I take what i said back(slowly taking foot out of mouth) the car is a Evo VI Aurora Effect,will take pic soon, btw do you have settings for the TVR cars.

crb I agree with you the Escudo really does belong at PPHC, I really don't fancy it.
 
Originally posted by GT-40/787b
funny thing, Famine, a serious hybrider useing stock aftermarket parts on an escudo :odd: :lol: but many really miss the point, using the stage four turbo or stage three is basicly useless, especiely being that the car accells slow, and the turbo charger is bout like hitting a nitrous button at high ends (no im not suggesting GT uses Nitrous, or incorperated with any companys like NOS or NX) but a stock escudo is better than one with aftermarket parts. :mischievous:

I'm a driver first, a scientist second and a hybrider third.

Almost any time I drive a car in GT3, I drive it as the game intended. It's really the only way to compare with other drivers - and it so happens that my track Escudo holds every endurance record I've entered it for, for the Escudo.

I put together the hybrid guide because I felt the extant guides were unclear, or false. I dug out my own information on the Power Multiplier (check the credits in mk's) and downforce in a scientific fashion.

I only hybrid when it's necessary (for hybrid-specific times, like at Racing-Line), or I'm bored, or there's another short-lived online hybrid racing series.


These sets are for the fully-tuned, game version Escudo PP to drive acceptably on a track. They work - for me. But as I stated in the first post:

"Settings aren't really transferrable, but frankly it's impossible to make the Escudo handle any worse. So you may as well give it a go..."
 
Gawd...

If y'all can't drive tune this beast and drive it around any track WITHOUT wall-riding or agro-racing, maybe y'all should just give it up!!!!

Okay, all you do is:
1) Give it a short 1st gear to get the revs up quick
2) Set the rest so that the revs don't drop
3) set the suspension so that the @$$ comes around under decelleration, thus curing the understeer that seems to trouble so many people.
4) Use the manual trans so y'all got some speed control
5) Use the gas strictly to alter fore/aft weight transfer


If y'all can't do that.....
 
try building a hybrid escudo with the f1 suspension and chassis, with the rest being escudo. now that would solve ur handling issue and you would be no short of power
 
Originally posted by Gran Turismo7058
The VS Supra owns,SOLID!


yeah i'm a bit behind but I just had to have my opinion to this......

The VS Supra looks horrible..... now if you would take a long good look at the AB-flug S900 kitted Supra, you will forget all about the Vielside version.
 
Originally posted by hks2835_supra
try building a hybrid escudo with the f1 suspension and chassis, with the rest being escudo. now that would solve ur handling issue and you would be no short of power

*slap*
 
I'm just posting to give Famine a pat on the back for his Escudo settings. I always hated the fugly bugger, but now driving it is a hoot! Well done old chap!
 

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