20 minutes of Apricot hill (Z06 vs ZR1 LM's)

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Anybody know a good car for this race. I tried a ZO6 LM Race car, and a ZR1 LM Race car, both stock with mostly stock settings(with downforce changed to 350/450, dif 5/10/5 Brakes 4/5, and obviously shorter tranny's). The Z06 tore my tires up too fast but had better conering (Back end seemed to rotate around the turns better), and had about 2 laps more gas in it. My right front tire went about 3 times faster than the rest of my tires, so i had to run race hards and barely made it on 1 pit stop. The ZR1 has more power and is better on tires, but worse on gas. I put race softs on it for both stints, but i ran out of tires with half a lap to go and lost 12 positions. It has about 7 laps of gas, as i ran out 20 seconds before the pits. The rear seems much tighter, despite similar suspension and downforce settings, and has less rotation and more understeer. I ran about 2 seconds a lap faster, but only because of the race softs. I feel id either have to go RM/RM or RS/RH next time. The Z06 actually seemed a little quicker on hard tires, but i cant figure out why i burnt my right front tire so fast. Any suggestions as to why, or what other car i should use please feel free to leave your input.. thanks in advance.
 
You're tearing tires up (I'm guessing rears), because your differential is nearly unlocked. I usually base my setups around the diff, because you establish rear traction and then tighten up the front, balance off the car, etc. I would be running diff settings at least three times those values. I don't run below 15/30/15 on anything. Sans fwd, which I don't bother with.
 
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PlayerONE7125
Anybody know a good car for this race. I tried a ZO6 LM Race car, and a ZR1 LM Race car, both stock with mostly stock settings(with downforce changed to 350/450, dif 5/10/5 Brakes 4/5, and obviously shorter tranny's). The Z06 tore my tires up too fast but had better conering (Back end seemed to rotate around the turns better), and had about 2 laps more gas in it. My right front tire went about 3 times faster than the rest of my tires, so i had to run race hards and barely made it on 1 pit stop. The ZR1 has more power and is better on tires, but worse on gas. I put race softs on it for both stints, but i ran out of tires with half a lap to go and lost 12 positions. It has about 7 laps of gas, as i ran out 20 seconds before the pits. The rear seems much tighter, despite similar suspension and downforce settings, and has less rotation and more understeer. I ran about 2 seconds a lap faster, but only because of the race softs. I feel id either have to go RM/RM or RS/RH next time. The Z06 actually seemed a little quicker on hard tires, but i cant figure out why i burnt my right front tire so fast. Any suggestions as to why, or what other car i should use please feel free to leave your input.. thanks in advance.
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Burning up the right front is often from over aggressive corner entry and/or over turning the front wheels (common with DS3) and just generally not being smooth with your inputs. If you find the car is understeering as well, it's easy to fix with a race car, just raise the front aero or lower the rear if front is already maxed and it'll do the trick. Apricot Hill is hard on tires. The first couple of corners and the big sweeper just suck the rubber right off the rim so you have to be smooth there. More downforce overall for more grip and less sliding might also help.
 
332i
You're tearing tires up (I'm guessing rears), because your differential is nearly unlocked. I usually base my setups around the diff, because you establish rear traction and then tighten up the front, balance off the car, etc. I would be running diff settings at least three times those values. I don't run below 15/30/15 on anything. Sans fwd, which I don't bother with.
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Yea the ZR1 on race softs i tend to burn the rears, i figured with a higher differential it would kick the rear out more thus burning my tires quicker. Hopefully my girl lets me play ps3 today, i gotta send her out to go shopping, so i can get some quality gt6 time in as in the weekends are the only time i get to see her and my ps3. Ill def try the dif thing out tho, thnx alot for the advice.
 
Not problem. You'll probably have to tighten up the front to remedy a little understeer, but you may not depending on the current setup. You're probably turning better laps on hards, because they're much tougher to overheat.
 
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Burning up the right front is often from over aggressive corner entry and/or over turning the front wheels (common with DS3) and just generally not being smooth with your inputs. If you find the car is understeering as well, it's easy to fix with a race car, just raise the front aero or lower the rear if front is already maxed and it'll do the trick. Apricot Hill is hard on tires. The first couple of corners and the big sweeper just suck the rubber right off the rim so you have to be smooth there. More downforce overall for more grip and less sliding might also help.
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Yea the front aero is raised all the way on both cars, but the ZR1 seems to understeer on hards, a little less on softs, but i have to be as agressive as i can to catch the citreon gt and bmw/mclaren in front. Out of the box i like the Z06 better despite having a smaller pp (insert dirty joke). Its more consistant for me and i run faster times than the ZR1 on race hards, although my best lap has been with the ZR1 on race softs, i just gotta find a way to get 1 more lap per stint out of the tires. Also the ZR1 has 2.5/1.5(1.0 maybe) - camber stock, opposed to the Z06's 0/0. I wonder if that has to do with the understeer and decreased tire wear.
 
Hm. Something is up, because I can win that race with my E60 M5, which should be less powerful and heavier. No downforce, either. I would check out some of the tunes for it on here and test them.
 
Well i use stock suspension, no aids, so i guess no abs is whats chewing my tires up. I usually spin out once or twice due to my tires dying, or run out of gas. Im not used to the track, and i only have ltd time with my ps3. Not everyone is a wizard. I run a low 1:17 avg lap with Z06 on RH, and high 1:14 avg with the ZR1. This is my first race dealing with pitting and i just need to get my tire strategy down. Im like james hunt i just blow past the pits on E with bald tires. I dont really wanna go the tune route unless i have to, i rather slowly tweak my own settings. More fun for me that way.
 
I do mine own as well, just wasn't sure if you were familiar or whatnot. I'm no wizard. I wish :) Have you tried doing mediums back to back? Before the tire glitch was fixed, I would run hards or mediums for the first stint and softs for the second. I would run the first stint at about 11-12 min, so I had 7-8 to go hard on softs and not have to worry about coming up short on rubber.
 
332i
I do mine own as well, just wasn't sure if you were familiar or whatnot. I'm no wizard. I wish :) Have you tried doing mediums back to back? Before the tire glitch was fixed, I would run hards or mediums for the first stint and softs for the second. I would run the first stint at about 11-12 min, so I had 7-8 to go hard on softs and not have to worry about coming up short on rubber.
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Sounds good, i love pitting tho, i think im gonna run an endurance race on gt5 later since i pretty much have a fresh new game i started, just gonna get some practice here to get myself ready for the real thing
 
PlayerONE7125
Yea the front aero is raised all the way on both cars, but the ZR1 seems to understeer on hards, a little less on softs, but i have to be as agressive as i can to catch the citreon gt and bmw/mclaren in front. Out of the box i like the Z06 better despite having a smaller pp (insert dirty joke). Its more consistant for me and i run faster times than the ZR1 on race hards, although my best lap has been with the ZR1 on race softs, i just gotta find a way to get 1 more lap per stint out of the tires. Also the ZR1 has 2.5/1.5(1.0 maybe) - camber stock, opposed to the Z06's 0/0. I wonder if that has to do with the understeer and decreased tire wear.
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Sounds like you have many issues going on. Get rid of the camber. 0/0 camber provides the most grip and probably and the stock camber probably has something to do with the tire wear issue and understeer. Soften the brakes too. If you're locking up, turn it down to 2/1 or even 1/0. It'll only cost you a couple seconds per lap but you'll be more consistent and the tires will last longer.
 
Yep, lower brake pressures really help, especially with a gamepad I imagine. I find 1-3 up front usually helps with tires heating up within braking zones as you turn in. My buddy has been working on a setup and does t understand that it is not the setup...he's riding the brakes into the turns at high brand pressures. By the time he is turning in, the tires are already roasting and the front washes out on him. Turns 10, 11 and 12 can nearly be turned into a straight shot too and you can still keep two wheels on the tarmac.

As someone else mentioned apricot hill is brutal on tires. It's a quick track with cars like this running fair downforce levels and you're booking it through most turns, other than the hairpin. When I pit, the front right is usually the worst of the four in terms of wear. All the highest speed turns are lefts. Most notably 1&2 and 6&7. The last turn seems to get the right rear wearing.
 
Use the Peugeot 908 HDi FAP. Won by 33 second and it can be used to win all the S class races. You have to detune it first but it still doimnates
 
I just saw a video on youtube of a guy running a mercedes sls, he was doing 1:21's and got first place, and in my corvette i was avg 1:17's and i couldnt even see 2nd place.. wierd
 

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