2011 Ford F-series Super Duty! All you need to know is 735 torques

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Despite showing us the 2011 F-Series Super Duty five months ago, there's been not a word on power. Finally, here they are: Powerstroke, 390HP and 735ft-lb of torque. 6.2-liter gas engine, 385HP and 405 ft-lb of torque. Your move GM.



Ford and GM have been playing a somewhat annoying game of cat and mouse with their newly revealed heavy duty pickup trucks. Ford unveiled their new F-Series Super Duty in September while GM unveiled their new Silverado HD two weeks ago at the Chicago Auto Show. Neither have divulged any kind of power numbers in a game of one-upsmanship, using every last minute to wring more power out of their engines to try and gain a competitive advantage. Well Ford's come out with official numbers, and they're pretty darn staggering.

Without question the brand new, all-Ford designed 6.7-liter V8 Powerstroke diesel is the headliner, boasting a formidable 735 lb-ft of torque at 1,600 RPM and 390 HP at 2,800 RPM. That's a stump ripper to be sure and represents a 85 ft-lb and 40 HP improvement over the last engine. There's plenty to like about the engine beside the numbers. First, it's just plain cool, with a reverse breathing layout meaning the intake side of engine is outboard and exhaust is inboard. The valley-mounted twin compressor turbo essentially packs a twin-turbo's worth of punch into a single turbo's packaging, and because of the extremely short manifolds and thus manifold volume leading to the impeller side, turbo lag has been essentially eliminated. It's also got a compacted graphite iron block for strength, forged crank, forged rods, aluminum pistons, crossbolted four bolt mains, and some crazy plate stamped rocker arms for valvetrain durability.

To keep the enviro-nerds happy, the after-treatment system is a urea-based NOx scrubber with a diesel particulate filter to keep emissions clean, and if you're so inclined the engine's designed to run smooth on B20 biodiesel. The engine's backed by the all-new Torqueshift transmission with a live PTO off the side for implements and in total the whole packages is 180 lbs lighter, 160 lbs from the engine, 20 lbs from the transmission. It's supposedly pretty quiet too, but we still go weak at the knees whenever a 7.3-liter Powerstroke's making its wonderful racket, so that's not so important to us. Oh, by the way, the new engine is the same option price as the outgoing one at $7,835.

The 6.2-liter gas motor is new as well, though detuned a bit from its first application in the F-150 Raptor. Here it produces 385 HP at 5,500 RPM and 405 ft-lb of torque at 4,500 RPM. That's an 85 HP and 40 ft-lb improvement over the outgoing 5.4-liter. In case you forgot, the biggest comparative truck these engines go into — the F-350 — is capable of up to 21,600 lbs of gooseneck towing and 6,250 lbs of payload. If you're taking notes that means Ford's besting GM's claimed towing capacity by 1,600 lbs and is at a payload disadvantage of a scant 50 lbs when compared to the Silverado 3500 HD. GM's still playing coy on its power numbers, but until they spill the beans Ford's the solidly established as the heavy duty king of the hill.

God I love being a Ford man. The fun bits are bolded and underlined for quick reference. :D
 
I remember getting passed on the highway not too long ago by an F-350 and Ram HD towing fifth-wheel car haulers. On the first trailer, the F-350, was a Ford Escape (3,500), a Ford F-150 Super Crew (5,600), and a Nissan Armada (5,600). Make that 14,700 pounds. Plus the trailer, which had to be a couple tons by itself.

That's hardly approaching the towing limit of even the old truck. To illustrate, that was these...

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On this...

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Pulled by this:

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As a matter of fact it looked oddly like this...

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And they just cruised on by going about 70mph. They were probably getting similar gas mileage to my RX7 while doing that, too. Pretty amazing. How often do you guys get that in England?
 
How often do you guys get that in England?

It's never happened.

Also you can fit an entire Dodge Viper in the F-350's wheelbase. Fun fact.


Edit: Actually, there's a few damn good reasons it's never happened. First, the "car" itself weighs 9,800lb - 4.4 tons. The maximum permissible vehicle weight for a standard UK driving licence is 3.4 tons. Secondly the rig itself weighs 8.7 tons. The maximum permissible rig weight for a standard UK driving licence with towing entitlements is no more than the towing vehicle's gross vehicle weight (that's the towing vehicle plus its maximum permitted onboard payload). Finally, the overall weight is 13.1 tons. The maximum permissible weight for the entire vehicle on a standard UK driving licence with towing entitlements is 8.25 tons.

In order to achieve a 4.4 ton vehicle pulling an 8.7 ton rig for a total of 13.1 tons, you'd need an HGV Class 2 licence (which also needs an HGV class 1 licence). At which point you'll probably have a lorry.
 
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That's a stump ripper to be sure and represents a 85 ft-lb and 40 HP improvement over the last engine.

That's an 85 HP and 40 ft-lb improvement over the outgoing 5.4-liter.
So impressive they have to tell you twice. And get it wrong...
 
So impressive they have to tell you twice. And get it wrong...

It's referring to two different engines though...

The diesel gains 40hp, the gas gains 85. The diesel gains 85 ft-lbs, the gas gains 40.
 
It's never happened.

Also you can fit an entire Dodge Viper in the F-350's wheelbase. Fun fact.


Edit: Actually, there's a few damn good reasons it's never happened. First, the "car" itself weighs 9,800lb - 4.4 tons. The maximum permissible vehicle weight for a standard UK driving licence is 3.4 tons. Secondly the rig itself weighs 8.7 tons. The maximum permissible rig weight for a standard UK driving licence with towing entitlements is no more than the towing vehicle's gross vehicle weight (that's the towing vehicle plus its maximum permitted onboard payload). Finally, the overall weight is 13.1 tons. The maximum permissible weight for the entire vehicle on a standard UK driving licence with towing entitlements is 8.25 tons.

In order to achieve a 4.4 ton vehicle pulling an 8.7 ton rig for a total of 13.1 tons, you'd need an HGV Class 2 licence (which also needs an HGV class 1 licence). At which point you'll probably have a lorry.

Hm. Sounds like the only way you'd see one of the big diseasel trucks over there is if we offered them chassis-cab only and with 5th wheels as an option...
 
There are cars which fall foul of the weight limit, but they're blind-eyed - I believe the Hummer H1 exceeds the boundaries of the UK licence. I don't think anyone would genuinely be pulled over and fined for driving an F-350 on a stock licence.

But in terms of load lugging, you'd never see an F-350 with the possible exception of a hardcore-Americana-lover pulling a 60s musclecar to a dragstrip. If you need up to 7.5 tons of stuff moving, you use a 7.5 ton van, rather than a "car".
 
No, I don't mind trucks at all. I actually want a diesel 2500 at some point. But I think the new Ford fronts are pretty garish. Chevy is a little better, GMC and Dodge are just right.
 
How exactly did they mess the HD line up so much in the looks dept.?

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That is one of my favorite truck designs of all time, now they just look horrible.
 
Perhaps Ford is having a mid-life crisis and yearns to once again sell vehicles with yards of chrome?
 
If you paint the grille the body color it wouldn't be so bad. But either way, who cares that the grille is ghastly--that's the beauty of it really. I WANT something absurd and imposing. But either way the diesel engine in this thing is just a pure beast. Can't wait to hear it. :D
 
I wish they would make the grille bigger. And maybe add some chrome.

I'm also worried about that badge... I could see it being an issue that the blue oval gets a little hard to make out from the upper layers of the statosphere.

But these things are freaking huge. And you don't realize it until one pulls up in front of your friend's Neon at the gas station and the hood is significantly higher than the roof of the car you're in. I'd probably get scared of heights sitting in one.
 
I'm also worried about that badge... I could see it being an issue that the blue oval gets a little hard to make out from the upper layers of the statosphere.

But these things are freaking huge. And you don't realize it until one pulls up in front of your friend's Neon at the gas station and the hood is significantly higher than the roof of the car you're in. I'd probably get scared of heights sitting in one.

Yeah, my friend's dad has this style F-250...

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...and I don't think it has a lift, bigger tires, or anything. I got a ride in it once and its so high. You pull up behind someone at a stop sign and the back of their car disappears from sight.
 
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