2011 Mustang vs M3

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Well i recently have started getting into American muscle and mustangs. It looks like performance wise the mustang gt is every bit as good as the iconic bmw M3. I am glad to finally see ford getting the mustang to handle better i am seriously thinking of buying either this or a subaru sti hatch in about a year or so. Tell me your thoughts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muRC7WJHgmA
 
I don't like fords and I don't like the look of the mustang, it looks too big, the bmw looks much nicer. If it was my money i wouldn't buy either car, but if I had to choose, I wouldn't even consider the bmw over the mustang, the mustang looks like more fun, it's way cheaper and with the money you save you could make the mustang much faster and you could afford to do lots of track days.

Ok just realised I was comparing the wrong cars:dunce:
 
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I personally would never buy an M3 to expensive to maintain in my opinion. Parts and mods are expensive here in the states. I just prefer American ( or japanese muscle over euro brands syply from a cost and reliability standpoint i have alotr of freinds with Audi s4s and vws and though i do respect the cars ( i think european cars have great interior) i do believe they charge to much for there cars. Just my opinion and how I look at things.
 
2011 Mustang GT easy. Better looking, sounds better, more comfortable, has bigger boot and is cheaper. And so what if it's a hair slower on a track, the extra $25k price difference for that fraction of a second and a BMW badge is worthless to me. I'll take that extra $25k I'd save and buy a second 2011 Mustang for the fiancée.
 
First was locked due to his attitude it seems. This might be his second chance.
 
I'll take option C.. C like Chevrolet Camaro. Not the V8 though, but the V6 with manual and RS package. ;)
 
JCE
2011 Mustang GT easy. Better looking, sounds better, more comfortable, has bigger boot and is cheaper. And so what if it's a hair slower on a track, the extra $25k price difference for that fraction of a second and a BMW badge is worthless to me. I'll take that extra $25k I'd save and buy a second 2011 Mustang for the fiancée.
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I highly doubt that, esp. with the same, cheap material they put in the interior.
 
Then a Mustang is a winner in my book!


McLaren
I highly doubt that, esp. with the same, cheap material they put in the interior.
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Just because its cheaper interior does not mean its less comfy. I was in furniture store, a 150 dollar lazy boy was very comfy over a 800 dollar designer...

Also mustang is bit softer on the suspension, so it must be more comfortable for every day driving.
 
Joker-GTBR
The Mustang's rear suspension is light years behind the M3, you can suffer with it
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Yet, It still seems to be successfully raced. Who knew?

I'd rather have the cheaper Mustang. Not only because it's cheaper at the dealer, but, parts are cheaper (and easier to find), and the car is probably way more fun with that live rear end. Plus, the aftermarket is huge, options are endless; doing coil-overs, brakes, wheels and tires is a cheap enough affair and will yield huge handling gains.

At the end of the day, I am not a race driver, I don't need the (barely) faster lap time, what I do want though is some excitement, and a BMW computer really probably doesn't deliver that as well... that and I've never been a huge BMW fan, and there happens to be a '05 GT in the family, so I'm bias. :)
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
Just because its cheaper interior does not mean its less comfy. I was in furniture store, a 150 dollar lazy boy was very comfy over a 800 dollar designer...
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Notice that I said material. That material affects comfort.
Also mustang is bit softer on the suspension, so it must be more comfortable for every day driving.
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Uh, no. Softer suspension does not automatically = More Comfort.
 
Mclearean the 2010 is actually quite confortable my cousin jut bought one and we did a 4 hour trip from DC to Penssylvania ill get pics up later
Also interior in the 2010 and 11 is alot better than the 2005-09 mustangs iwth the money you save though you could put your own custom interior and still be saving money form the bmw
 
I didn't say it wasn't comfortable. I said I doubt it's more comfortable than a M3. Unless there's some major difference between the '10 & '11's ride feel, the M3 was a much more comfortable car to me than the '10 GT I've driven.
 
If it was my money I'd get the Mustang so I don't have the pompous douche factor you get with the M3. With the Mustang you're just a douche.
 
McLaren
I didn't say it wasn't comfortable. I said I doubt it's more comfortable than a M3. Unless there's some major difference between the '10 & '11's ride feel, the M3 was a much more comfortable car to me than the '10 GT I've driven.
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Thats understandable I disagree but i do respect your opinion Mclaren and dont get me wrong I Like the BMW its just nice to see a car match its performance for so much less
 
Prosthetic
If it was my money I'd get the Mustang so I don't have the pompous douche factor you get with the M3. With the Mustang you're just a douche.
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Really is there any call for that were talking cars not what you percieve the person in the car to be
 
McLaren
I highly doubt that, esp. with the same, cheap material they put in the interior.
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After sitting in both the Mustang is infinitely more comfortable than the M3. The "cheap material" as you put it doesn't effect the level of comfort I'm interested in. The seats, hip room, head room and shoulder room mean more than what the door or dash are made out of.Plus the slightly softer suspension is a bonus making it a better daily driver.
 
I'm really stunned about this thread... If it's because of the price, go, but I think the M3 is WORLDS better than the Mustang.

Of course, you are all americans and love that kind of cars. And petrol is much cheaper there...
 
I take option D, Ferrari.

I've never like BMW's much, and I'm not one for muscle cars either, but there are some muscle cars that you just cannot say "I don't like!" Unfortuanly, the Mustang is not one of those.

You may kill me for saying that if you like. :p

t4
 
JCE
After sitting in both the Mustang is infinitely more comfortable than the M3. The "cheap material" as you put it doesn't effect the level of comfort I'm interested in. The seats, hip room, head room and shoulder room mean more than what the door or dash are made out of.Plus the slightly softer suspension is a bonus making it a better daily driver.
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I'm 6'4 and I fit wonderfully in an E92 M3...

Though I'm kind of curious why this thread was revived...

And Ferrari is never an option in the real world tlowr4 :lol:
 
you could always split the difference, get a 370Z. Just make sure you spec the track brake pads. The stock ones disintegrate if you use then on the track. R&T found that out the hard way...
 
Only problem is, the V6 370Z is a step below the V8 Mustang and M3 in pace.

Been hearing a lot about the new Mustang, would like to try it out. More torque, more mechanical grip... The one big issue with the Mustang over the M3 would be the live axle. While it's believable that they've gotten it around the track faster than an M3, since a live axle doesn't affect grip on a smooth surface... I'd like to know how well they've damped axle tramp in the corners on bumpy roads.

tlowr4
I take option D, Ferrari.

I've never like BMW's much, and I'm not one for muscle cars either, but there are some muscle cars that you just cannot say "I don't like!" Unfortuanly, the Mustang is not one of those.

You may kill me for saying that if you like. :p

t4
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Sadly, there is no front-engined, rear-wheel drive V8 Ferrari anywhere remotely close to that price range. It would be nice if they produced one, though.
 
Right, the M3 manages worse mileage than the Ford.

Niky, I've read that the Mustang axle works wonderfully most of the time, but a live axle is still a live axle and they can only work so well over bumps. In situations like that it's still clear that it has a live axle, even if it is the most well controlled in history.

Jim Prower
you could always split the difference, get a 370Z. Just make sure you spec the track brake pads. The stock ones disintegrate if you use then on the track. R&T found that out the hard way...
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Car and Driver has actually crashed two 370Zs, one of them the NISMO version, because of the "normal" pads. Those incidents prompted Nissan to offer the performance brake pad. Before that, the fade was unimaginable.
 
Wow... The Mustang fuel consumption surprised me!

The Mustang swings between 17 and 26 miles per gallon, which means 9.41-13.83 liters/100 km, while the M3 is between 9.3 and 17 liters/100 km. With DKG optional gearbox the consumption drops to 8.5-15.9. I guess it's is slightly better in the Mustang in overall.

But, I don't understand how if the Mustang is heavier and has somewhat less power (althought more torque) can win the M3 in the 1/4 of mile race...
 
Gears, and likely traction. If there's one thing the live axle does well, it's hold the rear tires straight up and down, which is great for taking off.

But here's caveat emperor...Your conception of the M3 being lighter?

E90 M3 Coupe: 3,704 lb
Mustang Coupe GT V8 Manual: 3,533 lb

Lesson: Don't always believe stereotypes. Sometimes, they're not true.
 
Jim Prower
you could always split the difference, get a 370Z. Just make sure you spec the track brake pads. The stock ones disintegrate if you use then on the track. R&T found that out the hard way...
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Do not waste your money on factory 'track pads'. Real track pads squeal like pigs, chew the hell out of rotors, and emit so much dust you'll hate them. Use 'street' pads/OEM for the street.

Get a real set of track pads & solid rotors and swap those in for any driving event you may do. Carbotech, PFB, Hawk, etc all offer pads w/high heat ranges. Take it a step further and run ducts if you're serious. Even ghetto ducting is better than absolutely nothing.

With exception of some exotics & Porsche; all OEM pads will fade, start on fire, etc after a few hot laps. It doesn't matter if it says 'Brembo' or they're 1-piston sliders, they'll overheat.
 
I said the M3 was lighter because I heard it in the drag race video (or I think I heard it, however, my English is not perfect).

3648 lb for the M3 and 3605 for the Mustang :)
 

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