Sports Cars 2018 Endurance Racing Discussion Thread - WEC, ELMS etc

Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by Kowhai, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. Kowhai

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    WEC Super Season

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    1: 6 Hours of Spa, 5 May
    2: 24 Hours of Le Mans, 16-17 June
    3: 6 Hours of Silverstone, 19 August
    4: 6 Hours of Fuji, 21 October
    5: 6 Hours of Shanghai, 18 November
    6: 1500 Miles of Sebring, 16 March 2019
    7: 6 Hours of Spa, 4 May 2019
    8: 24 Hours of Le Mans, 15-16 June 2019

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    LMP1

    Rebellion Racing - Rebellion R13
    ByKolles Racing Team - ENSO CLM P1/01
    Manor - Ginetta G60-LT-P1
    Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 Hybrid
    DragonSpeed - BR Engineering BR1
    SMP Racing - BR Engineering BR1

    LMP2

    TDS Racing - Oreca 07
    Racing Team Nederland - Dallara P217
    DragonSpeed - Oreca 07
    Signatech Alpine Matmut - Alpine A470
    Jackie Chan DC Racing - Oreca 07
    Larbre Compétition - Ligier JS P217

    LMGTE Pro

    AF Corse - Ferrari 488 GTE EVO
    Ford Chip Ganassi Team UK - Ford GT
    BMW Team MTEK - BMW M8 GTE
    Porsche GT Team - Porsche 911 RSR
    Aston Martin Racing - Astin Martin Vantage AMR

    LMGTE Am

    Spirit Of Race - Ferrari 488 GTE
    Team Project 1 - Porsche 911 RSR
    Clearwater Racing - Ferrari 488 GTE
    MR Racing - Ferrari 488 GTE
    Dempsey-Proton Racing - Porsche 911 RSR
    Gulf Racing UK - Porsche 911 RSR
    TF Sport - Aston Martin Vantage GTE (2017)
    Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin Vantage GTE (2017)

    ELMS

    Calendar

    1: 4 Hours of Le Castellet, 15 April
    2: 4 Hours of Monza, 13 May
    3: 4 Hours of Red Bull Ring, 22 July
    4: 4 Hours of Silverstone, 18 August
    5: 4 Hours of Spa, 23 September
    6: 4 Hours of Algarve, 28 October

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    LMP2

    DragonSpeed - Oreca 07
    United Autosports - Ligier JS P217
    Panis Barthez Competition - Ligier JS P217
    Repsol Racing Engineering - Oreca 07
    Algarve Pro Racing - Ligier JS P217
    G-Drive Racing - Oreca 07
    IDEC Sport - Ligier JS P217
    Duqueine Engineering - Oreca 07
    AVF by Adrián Vallés - Dallara P217
    APR - Rebellion Racing - Oreca 07
    SMP Racing - Dallara P217
    Graff - Oreca 07
    Cetilar Villorba Corse - Dallara P217
    High Class Racing - Dallara P217

    LMP3

    United Autosports - Ligier JS P3
    Cool Racing - Ligier JS P3
    NEFIS By Speed Factory - Ligier JS P3
    360 Racing - Ligier JS P3
    Ecurie Ecosse/Nielsen - Ligier JS P3
    DKR Engineering - Norma M30
    AT Racing - Ligier JS P3
    Oregon Team - Norma M30
    Eurointernational - Ligier JS P3
    Inter Europol Competition - Ligier JS P3
    RLR Msport - Ligier JS P3
    BHK Motorsport - Ligier JS P3
    Ultimate - Ligier JS P3
    M.Racing - YMR - Ligier JS P3/Norma M30

    LMGTE

    Spirit Of Race - Ferrari 488 GTE
    JMW Motorsport - Ferrari 488 GTE
    Proton Competition - Porsche 911 RSR
    Ebimotors - Porsche 911 RSR
    Krohn Racing - Ferrari 488 GTE
     
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  2. DesertPenguin

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    Such a stupid idea to have a series span over the year change. Still don't get that decision...
     
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  3. catamount39

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    Its a transitional season before they implement a new cycle in 2020 if I recall.
     
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    Then why not save the teams some money and skip a year?
     
  5. catamount39

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    Are you insane? A major world championship not racing for more than a year and basically giving a middle finger to all the sponsors and those invested in this? There's no horribly big deal about this, it's only 8 rounds and the teams will have nearly 9 months off between Le Mans 2019 and (what one may assume) Sebring 2020.
     
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    I forgot about the sponsors side of things yea that would work. It's just such a weird move that they went with right?
     
  7. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    No it's actually one of the more logical moves implemented by the ACO/FIA for once when one's analyzed the circumstances that @catamount39 has given some insight to.
     
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  8. SagarisGTB

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    I was under the presumption that the popular theory on the purpose of the super season was to transition to a winter season format (like in Formula E). Under that supposition, the following "regular" season would start approximately September 2019 and conclude at the 2020 24 Hours of Le Mans.
     
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    I get the idea of finishing at Le Mans because realistically most people stop following after that race. Why not just have Le Mans later in the year? Like the end of summer? That way everything can be in one year and still end at Le Mans. One race per month.
     
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    There had been talks before about making it a winter series like Formula E, but it never really gained any traction.
     
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    They didn't want to end the season at Le Mans because if the team/drivers who win the championships didn't win Le Mans no one would be talking about them....
     
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    Hard to find traction in winter conditions sometimes
     
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    Studded tires might help ;)
     
  16. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    Yeah cause nothing shouts Sports Car Racing like studded tires
     
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    Porsche is thinking of trying to beat the Nordschleife and Pikes Peak record with the 919.

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    AND They are trying to make a road legal version? *heavier breathing*
     
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    Havent read that, only that they would be thinking of trying to beat those records. Dont think it's possible or that Porsche has the interest on it. But having in mind that Merc and Aston is going to release and could release extreme hypercars, maybe Porsche does so in the future. Who knows...
     
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    That’s what the article I read said on the issue. But I’m not so sure about the credibility so I wouldn’t take it to seriously.
     
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  23. TheElbows

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    Yep, top-end motor racing is, by it's nature, untenable. People obviously want to see developments, new tech, new cars...this costs money, big money. It's why we rely on a few companies each year stepping up to the plate to take it on "just because". It's always been this way though. New tech comes along, rules the sport, is outlawed or creates a massively expensive arms race which cripples the sport, etc.

    I'm a bit amazed we get such decent racing as it stands now. :D
     
  24. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    Wait you didn't enjoy the 95-99 arms race? That spiraled so heavily out of control teams did one of two things: leave or join a more expensive series since they were already paying a ton. (e.g. F1)
     
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    The LMP1 grid will double in size next season with new entries from Rebellion, Manor, SMP, Dragonspeed and possibly others. The LMP1 non-hybrid cars will be performance balanced with the hybrids.

    The 2020 LMP1 regs have already been agreed. They're known as GT-Proto and will be LMP1 hybrids, but with strong road car styling cues. They'll be closer (looks wise) to GT500 than DPI. The likes of Toyota, Ford, McLaren, Aston Martin, Renault, Porsche etc. are involved in the reg discussions. Privateers will be catered for as each major component (like the hybrid) will be performance balanced and spec'd, so they can be produced by the well known chassis and drivetrain suppliers.
     
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  26. SHGTP

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    From 2019/20 the WEC will start in September and end at Le Mans.....like a football season.

    It gives everyone an opportunity to run outside F1's traditional schedule, and of course conclude all titles at Le Mans.
     
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    Sure would get me interested in Le Mans again.
     
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    That would be awesome if it was real.
     
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  30. Bram Turismo

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    Thank God Sebring is back on the calendar. I've missed that track. The 12hrs of Sebring used to be that start of the racing calendar that always wanted me to fire FIA GTR back up again on the PC.