2023 ABB FIA Formula E World Championship Discussion

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With pre-season testing underway in Valencia, its high time we discussed all that the worlds first single-seater electric Championship will have to offer.
Some questions to generate discussion:
  • Who will win the Drivers and Constructers championship?
  • Who will be dark horses?
  • Who is the most underrated driver on the grid
  • What about the rookie field? How will Hughes and Fenestraz fare?
  • Which team has the best and worst livery?
  • What race are you looking forward too most?
  • Are you going to any races?

DRIVER LINEUPS
Nissan - Norman Nato/Sacha Fenestraz
NEOM McLaren - Rene Rast/Jake Hughes
NIO 333 - Sergio Sette Camara/Dan Ticktum
Envision - Sebastien Buemi/Nick Cassidy
ABT Cupra - Robin Frijns/Nico Mueller
Mahindra - Lucas di Grassi/Oliver Rowland
Maserati MSG - Edoardo Mortara/Maximilian Guenther
Avalanche Andretti - Jake Dennis/Andre Lotterer
Jaguar TCS - Mitch Evans/Sam Bird
Tag Heuer Porsche - Antonio Felix da Costa/Pascal Wehrlein
DS Penske - Stoffel Vandoorne/Jean-Eric Vergne

Calendar
R1 - Mexico City - 14 Jan 2023
R2 - Diriyah - 27 Jan 2023
R3 - Diriyah - 28 Jan 2023
R4 - Hyderabad - 11 Feb 2023
R5 - Cape Town - 25 Feb 2023
R6 - São Paulo - 25 Mar 2023
R7 - Berlin - 22 Apr 2023
R8 - Berlin - 23 Apr 2023
R9 - Monaco - 06 May 2023
R10 - Jakarta - 03 Jun 2023
R11 - Jakarta - 04 Jun 2023
R12 - Portland - 24 Jun 2022
R13 - Rome - 15 Jul 2022
R14 - Rone - 16 Jul 2022
R15 - London - 29 Jul 2022
R16 - London - 30 Jul 2022
 
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My answers
1. Mortara and Maserati
2. NIO 333
3. Nato
4. Hughes will do well, Fenestraz, less so
5. Best - ABT, Worst - Andretti
6. Portland
7. Afraid not…
 

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Gonna be an interesting season for sure. Certainly been lots of teething issues with the new gen3 cars, so much so that there's an extra test session has been added to today to help the teams get on top of it.

In the mock race they did, Mclaren and Hughes came out on top ahead of Guenther and Maserati, obviously can't take much from that with so many cars having issues and such but as Mclaren have inherited a multi championship winning outfit, I'd expect them to be up there. So for me, Jake Hughes is somewhat of my dark horse owing to his FE race rookie status.
 
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JAKE DENNIS WINS THE MEXICO CITY E-PRIX FOR AVALANCE ANDRETTI!

An incredible race to kick off Gen3, full of excitement and nerves right to the finish. It would be Lucas di Grassi in the Mahindra on pole position (with his teammate 22nd and last!), with Dennis on the front how beside him. Jake Hughes would start 3rd on his debut, 4th would be the other Andretti of Andre Lotterer, with Dan Ticktum rounding out the top 5. The race would start and di Grassi would get away well, checking out from Dennis and Hughes, who had tried a move around the outside unsuccessfully. Sacha Fenestraz would move up to P7 with an incredible move on Buemi.

Further down the back, the Abt of Robin Frijns ground to a halt at the T9 chicane, hitting Norman Nato in the rear and causing both cars to retire. This meant a safety car deployment On lap 2. As the safety car wound in on lap 6, the top 4 would keep their positions, but Pascal Wehrlein managed to pass Dan Ticktum for P5. It wouldn’t be long before another safety car was deployed. In fact, it was on the same lap! Sam Bird had stopped his Jaguar car after T1 with a reported driveshaft failure, causing the Porsche safety car to reappear.

There was little action again until lap 12, when Dennis managed to sneak past di Grassi for the lead at T3. This battle opened the door for Hughes in the McLaren to attempt a move on the Brasilian, but to no avail.

Maserati had showed little promise based on their pre season running, and that trend continued when Edo Mortara spun and clouted the T1 barrier meaning another safety car deployment. Dan Ticktum would have to serve a drive through penalty as well for overpower, ending his race. On lap 26, di Grassi and Hughes both took attack mode, but that gave Wehrlein the chance to slip past Hughes, as he was in attack mode from the lap before, meaning the Porsche driver was up to P3, still quite a way behind Dennis, who had checked out.

Lap 29 saw di Grassi 2% down on both Wehrlein and Hughes, in terms of energy. This lead to extreme battery saving by the Mahindra, and Wehrlein eventually passed him for P2 into T9

A gripiing battle ensued for P3, with di Grassi, Hughes, and Lotterer all fighting for the last spot on the podium. Wehrlein had used extra energy to his advantage, and pulled a gap to the fighting group

Incidents for Sergio Sette Camara and Rene Rast ended their races in the 5 ’added laps’ (a new feature adding on time from safety car procedures). These were not televised live, so I cant tell what happened, but they both retired

Buemi and Antonio Felix da Costa joined the fight for P3 with a lap to go, but it would be to no avail as they stayed in their positions. Lotterer would get past Hughes down the inside into T9, but it would be the other Andretti of Jake Dennis who had dominated the first race of Gen3 and took the chequered to win in Mexico City!
 

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JAKE DENNIS WINS THE MEXICO CITY E-PRIX FOR AVALANCE ANDRETTI!

An incredible race to kick off Gen3, full of excitement and nerves right to the finish. It would be Lucas di Grassi in the Mahindra on pole position (with his teammate 22nd and last!), with Dennis on the front how beside him. Jake Hughes would start 3rd on his debut, 4th would be the other Andretti of Andre Lotterer, with Dan Ticktum rounding out the top 5. The race would start and di Grassi would get away well, checking out from Dennis and Hughes, who had tried a move around the outside unsuccessfully. Sacha Fenestraz would move up to P7 with an incredible move on Buemi.

Further down the back, the Abt of Robin Frijns ground to a halt at the T9 chicane, hitting Norman Nato in the rear and causing both cars to retire. This meant a safety car deployment On lap 2. As the safety car wound in on lap 6, the top 4 would keep their positions, but Pascal Wehrlein managed to pass Dan Ticktum for P5. It wouldn’t be long before another safety car was deployed. In fact, it was on the same lap! Sam Bird had stopped his Jaguar car after T1 with a reported driveshaft failure, causing the Porsche safety car to reappear.

There was little action again until lap 12, when Dennis managed to sneak past di Grassi for the lead at T3. This battle opened the door for Hughes in the McLaren to attempt a move on the Brasilian, but to no avail.

Maserati had showed little promise based on their pre season running, and that trend continued when Edo Mortara spun and clouted the T1 barrier meaning another safety car deployment. Dan Ticktum would have to serve a drive through penalty as well for overpower, ending his race. On lap 26, di Grassi and Hughes both took attack mode, but that gave Wehrlein the chance to slip past Hughes, as he was in attack mode from the lap before, meaning the Porsche driver was up to P3, still quite a way behind Dennis, who had checked out.

Lap 29 saw di Grassi 2% down on both Wehrlein and Hughes, in terms of energy. This lead to extreme battery saving by the Mahindra, and Wehrlein eventually passed him for P2 into T9

A gripiing battle ensued for P3, with di Grassi, Hughes, and Lotterer all fighting for the last spot on the podium. Wehrlein had used extra energy to his advantage, and pulled a gap to the fighting group

Incidents for Sergio Sette Camara and Rene Rast ended their races in the 5 ’added laps’ (a new feature adding on time from safety car procedures). These were not televised live, so I cant tell what happened, but they both retired

Buemi and Antonio Felix da Costa joined the fight for P3 with a lap to go, but it would be to no avail as they stayed in their positions. Lotterer would get past Hughes down the inside into T9, but it would be the other Andretti of Jake Dennis who had dominated the first race of Gen3 and took the chequered to win in Mexico City!
Was in interesting race. I think it lacked some of the excitement of previous years, everyone is still a bit tentative in these new cars, reliability concerns still there but it will get better and it was far from dull. The fight for 3rd and then 4th was excellent, great debut for Jake Hughes in the Mclaren but Dennis just had one of those days he had where he is unstoppable and Werlhein was strong as well, both Porsche powered.

A side note on Frijns incident after he hit Nato, the impact of the car bouncing broke his wrist. He is therefore a doubt for Saudi Arabia in 2 weeks time.
 
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I like the packaging of the design. Not a fan of the view from behind, but that’s don’t look as fragile as previous gens. The race was okay. At least I get to see all the action on Stan. Sport.
 
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Was in interesting race. I think it lacked some of the excitement of previous years, everyone is still a bit tentative in these new cars, reliability concerns still there but it will get better and it was far from dull. The fight for 3rd and then 4th was excellent, great debut for Jake Hughes in the Mclaren but Dennis just had one of those days he had where he is unstoppable and Werlhein was strong as well, both Porsche powered.

A side note on Frijns incident after he hit Nato, the impact of the car bouncing broke his wrist. He is therefore a doubt for Saudi Arabia in 2 weeks time.

Jack did mention this on comms, hope he gets well soon and races in Diriyah, but obviously his health is the priority
 
I like the packaging of the design. Not a fan of the view from behind, but that’s don’t look as fragile as previous gens. The race was okay. At least I get to see all the action on Stan. Sport.
Cars look cool and look like a handful. Close field in practise and qualifying was interesting...

The race was maybe a little less exciting than others - but as a contrary view despite a bit of stalemate in parts there was close performance and a pretty high level of jeopardy. As distinct to races with many passes that are really just people sorting into the energy efficiency order or the car performance in F1 and results of DRS or attack mode...

The new format of Attack mode with different strategic use could become interesting on different track layouts if the are a little easier for a power pass, however, maybe the proportional advantage of attack mode is less than in the past? and the lower grip levels may make it difficult for drivers to effectively use attack mode.

edit: Stan sport coverage seems pretty comprehensive. I like it. The new logo and graphics and new theme song all seem like pretty slick production to me.
 
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Definitely enjoying the quality of the production. I’ll have to check out the FormulaE Unplugged as well.
Also enjoying the WRC coverage.
 
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Kelvin van der Linde will replace Robin Frijns in the ABT Cupra car this weekend, after the Dutchman suffered a broken wrist in Mexico City. The South African is well known for his antic at Noisring in DTM 2021, causing Liam Lawson to lose his championship after crashing into him twice at T1 on Lap 1 in both races. He will be making his Formula E debut
 
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Enjoyed the first race, currently enjoying Saudi, am confused about the attack, I feel like it’s more of a hinderance than help. Any one else think this? Also are they both compulsory?
 
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Enjoyed the first race, currently enjoying Saudi, am confused about the attack, I feel like it’s more of a hinderance than help. Any one else think this? Also are they both compulsory?
On this specific circuit, the Attack Mode activation is after the big overtaking spot, meaning 1 minute uses are useless, as it runs out before they get back to the long straight. On this track yes, it seems to slow them down.

They used to get 2 uses of 4 minutes, now it seems to be 2 uses totalling 4 minutes. I think they need to go back to 8 minutes of attack mode as this 4 isn't enough to make up for the time loss by going into the zone.
 
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On this specific circuit, the Attack Mode activation is after the big overtaking spot, meaning 1 minute uses are useless, as it runs out before they get back to the long straight. On this track yes, it seems to slow them down.

They used to get 2 uses of 4 minutes, now it seems to be 2 uses totalling 4 minutes. I think they need to go back to 8 minutes of attack mode as this 4 isn't enough to make up for the time loss by going into the zone.
Thanks! First season I’ve properly watched! I was thinking it might be better at different tracks!
Enjoyed the race today!
 

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How long until F1 copies this podium ceremony?

Not a bad race, the McLaren running out of juice then getting pushed across the line was good stuff.
 
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It’s like driving through the Bat Cave. :lol: The screens and all that was very cool. Albert Park has the real estate to go that elaborate.