24h race, should I a-spec or b-spec?

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I've waited so long. My friend who first said that he would join "my team" for the 24h race, decided to abandon the idea. So I'm all alone now. I don't feel I have the time nor the dedication to race 24 hours on my own. But, I want the F1 car. Still, I feel a little bit weak, if I should use B-spec.

What do you guys suggest? Will the B-spec pit-in Auto?
 
yes b-spec will pit in but it takes a little longer if you dont watch it and do not press x on the option screen. if you dont want to have to worry about loosing then use something like the minolta and set it to 3 with hard racing tyres and get on with what ever you want to do come back in 24 hours time and there will be a shiny new f1 car waiting.

Personally i think a-specing it is the best because its a good experience and you feel like you actually earnt the F1 car too.
 
I BSpec'd the Enduros. The fact that you cannot save in the pits is a very poor game design, even if only for the very long races. If the power supply goes off you are ****ed, and where I live that happens more than it should.

I may go back and Aspec the shorter ones at some time though.

Steven

P.S I enjoyed doing the Le Mans 24hrs in the Le Mans 24hr game, so I know what it is like. You had day->twilight->night->dawn->day, mixed weather, and you could save whenever you came into the pits. Great little game, PD could learn a lot by looking at how this game was done.
 
I recommend you get B-spec bob up to 40-60 skill points in each category. I did about a 3rd of the'Ring and then let Bob get on with it.
 
I'm going to do both...

I B-spec'd it to get the car first, and planned to do a 'super-weekend' in A-Spec, but haven't got the time to do that now. I had planned to get some people to help me, even got a few responses from here (RogsR34UK ;) ) , but as yet haven't arranged anything.... most likely I will do what Famine did... a few hours every night and just leave the PS2 on all week...

It has to be done in A-Spec eventually - if you are serious about GT that is :sly:
 
I B-spec'd it, but I did a few laps of each race just to feel connection to the prize car.

Just look up the name Pierre Levegh; and you'll see why I don't do 24-hour races myself all at once.
 
I have 2.5 hours to go on my 3rd 24 hours race, should finish tonight. All in a-spec (see sig). The feeling of accomplishment when that clock rolls over to 24 is amazing. I did them all over about a two week span for each, never more than about 3-4 hours a day. It is not too bad that way. Can't see doing it in one session, though.
I did the Ring first, to get the F1 then Sarthe2 and Sarthe1 in that order using the F1. It is overkill, I know but I didn't want to mess with the car becoming undrivable at 15 hours or so. (I did add 200kg balast and took off as much downforce as it would let me and it is still overkill...)
 
FYI...Levegh's fatal accident had nothing to do with trying to drive the race alone. In fact, his nearly-solo race was three years before the accident in 1952. It's a good thing you can't blow the motor by missing a shift in GT4.

I'm going to do both A-spec and B-spec. When I get the chance (vacation time soon), I plan to start the Le Sarthe race at 4:00 p.m. Saturday and go to 4:00 p.m. Sunday, just like the real thing. (3:00 Sat. - 3:00 Sun. for the Nurburgring) I'll do a few hours, then hand over to the B-spec, he'll do a few hours and we'll trade off. He's a little slow, so hopefully it will be a good race, him losing time and me having to drive hard to catch up, keeping it close.

BMW V12 LMR for Le Sarthe I and Silk Cut Jaguar XJR-9 for the Le Sarthe II. Can't wait.
 
scratchy
You can use ZZII's thread http://gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=70037&highlight=altezza if you want info on a good challenge. If you are going to b-spec, dont waste your minolta on the nurb 24h race; just use a Camaro LM or CLK DTM or some other easy to earn race car that wont have to pit as often. It's still a timed race whether you KILL the competition or not.
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Thanks for referring to my thread! :) The Altezza Touring Car is a very nice car for this race. It is pretty much a guaranteed win, but certainly not overkill. If a BMW M3 GTR shows up, you may only win by 3 or 4 laps. (Out of nearly 200, that is a pretty close race.)

I did some research looking for a good car and found that anything you can run under 7'00 with in practice is overkill. My fastest lap in the Altezza was a 7'03.560, but during the race I averaged more like 7'12 since I wasn't pushing hard the whole time. Any car that you think you can average 7'10-7'20 in gives a nice challenge. Here's another report by bakabaka with some great testing documentation for this race: http://gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=66015&highlight=nurburgring+24h. You can definitely get a high-a-spec-point race here, which makes the 24 hours of racing more enjoyable. I think it would be somewhat boring to a-spec with a Minolta and win by 30 laps.
 
I B-spec my first 24 endurace, although i was happy that i got my F1, i regret it, *deep shallow sorry sad sigh*, i think u should a-spec it, ull feel...umm more fullfilled because u actually did the work. Just plan a weekend, and do it just watch for those little disasters that may switch off ur ps2 or un pause it during a race....the fustration will lead to utter loss of control, fly controllers and so on ..... :ouch:

FUTUREDRIFTER
 
Lofberg
I've waited so long. My friend who first said that he would join "my team" for the 24h race, decided to abandon the idea. So I'm all alone now. I don't feel I have the time nor the dedication to race 24 hours on my own. But, I want the F1 car. Still, I feel a little bit weak, if I should use B-spec.

What do you guys suggest? Will the B-spec pit-in Auto?
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I'd say do it A-Spec (as that is what games are made for, to be played).

But if not, maybe just A-Spec 12 hours and B-Spec the rest.

Or do like I did and run for an hour,let B-spec go an hour,run another hour and so on and so forth.
 
All I would say is, if you got the time and if you really want to do it, do it A-Spec. I'm planning to do it A-Spec too...

The most importantly is, if you really like the game, you should do it A-Spec. The choice is up yours.

Also, if you want to do it A-Spec, ZZII is a good reference if you need more informations :D
 
I always did a mix of A-Spec and B-Spec for the 24hr enduros. For the 'Ring 24hr, try using a JGTC500 ride, stock. Even with the M3 GTR in the field, you will kill the competition because the M3 always loses control right before the pit entrance whenever its tires are worn.
 
bigjoe
....but I didn't want to mess with the car becoming undrivable at 15 hours or so.
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I just finished Sarthe II in A-spec, used the Audi R8, and the chassis wear really wasn't that bad. Was still lapping consistently within about 3s of my best lap, right to the end. Just make sure you keep right down the Hunaudieres straight though, there's an enormous bump at the left side of the track, just after where the 1st chicane would be on Sarthe I, which will throw you right without warning.
Between where the 1st and 2nd chicanes are on Sarthe I, there's 3 big grey barns on the left, after you've passed them its safe to move over when doing Sarthe II. Braking with chassis wear in effect has some foibles, but once you're used to it after a few laps, it's not really that big a deal.

Say NO to B-Spec! Every mile of this fabulous game is mine, and mine alone, to be driven.
I only have 6 more enduros to go now, & I'm really looking forward to the Nurburgring 24hr. :D Split the 24hr races up though, many of us have done it that way with no ill effects to our PS2s, just make sure it's well ventilated and attach a post-it note over the power button so no-one turns it off by mistake! :ouch:
 
i did ALL A-spec in any race (see my sig.. b-spec all ZERO!) i just finish Nurb first with 2000 R1's and got 200 pt. and won by 9 sec :-D it's so challege and FUN! it took me 4 days to finish it.. then my 2nd 24 hours is Le man II with Playstation LMP '04 total stock, with 10 point :( won by 3 lap, and for GT40? i won by over 300 laps :-D! cuz GT40 stuck on sand all day and didn't MOVE at all, i explained it in other topic in write up. and it took me 5 days to finish it.. then after that my PS2 won't read GT4 anymore :( :( :( :( it read other game (GTA SE, Need for speed unerground 2, socom I - II - (preorder for III :) just fine but :( i missed GT4, but i have good news, my friend will buy slim PS2 and he'll give me Fat ps2 for free.. i tested on his ps2 and it's work just fine.. i guess i played ps2 too much and killed it :)...

and all i know my ps2 won't read gt4 because i guess it's something broke inside... i opened it (it's 4 year old, so no warriy something), and it's just seem fine, but when i turned it on and it won't read my GT4, then i turned it off and found out this PS2 is EXTREAM HOT in 5 min!!! the fan is working i cleaned out dust from filter but still not helping..

so as you can see what i'm trying to say, be careful what to pick A-spec or B-spec, B-spec mean No fun, and A-spec can damage your ps2 if left on for long time.. by the way i'm owner of DFP and gt4 not working :( but as least i got need for speed, formula one carrer chamption, and midnight club 3.. it's work just fine in this 3 game, i wish this could work on GTA SE will be awesome but oh well (like when in car, use wheel; when on foot, use normal daul shock control)
 
MADTJ
i did ALL A-spec in any race (see my sig.. b-spec all ZERO!) i just finish Nurb first with 2000 R1's and got 200 pt. and won by 9 sec :-D it's so challege and FUN!
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:crazy: :crazy: 9 seconds!? That's insane! That's what happened to me on the 4h: I had a good enough car to pull way ahead but I started listening to music and had an inefficient pit strategy, so the AI caught up to me and I had to really hold him off for the last few laps and won by only 8 seconds. But for the 24h, I made sure to leave room for error, but not kill the competition. I would love to go back and try it with the Amuse S2000 R1 for 200 points, though. I heard it's a great car to do it in, and I'm glad to see someone has proven this.

Also, as MADTJ was saying, the PS2 Slimline does not have as good a ventillation setup as the regular PS2, and so it may not be the best idea to a-spec on these. Has anyone else had Slimline 24h experience (good or bad?).
 
My slimiline has been fine. I bspec'd the 24 hr Enduros overnight, while at work & back to back, with no problems. Yes it does get a tad warm but when I did the enduros I put the PS2 on two books (just overlapping at end/side) just to ensure that there was room for air flow under it.

Was it needed ? No idea, but it does no harm.

Steven
 
StevenDunn99
I BSpec'd the Enduros. The fact that you cannot save in the pits is a very poor game design, even if only for the very long races. If the power supply goes off you are ****ed, and where I live that happens more than it should.
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Same here. My neighborhood has quite a number of power jolts and brown-outs, which means surge protection on every outlet in my house that has an electric item over $20 plugged into it.

Another reason I don't A-spec the 24-hour races; my 24-hour Nürburgring race was nlighted by two "power-outs" and the La Sarthe II 24-hour race went with three blackouts until I finally managed an entire race.

I would go ballistic if the power went out 23 and 1/2 hours into my A-spec race, so let's say I'm doing the world a favor by B-specing those three races.
 
If you switch between A-Spec and B-Spec, don't you lose the possibility for your driver to gain experience points for that race or A-Spec points?
 
Giancarlo
If you switch between A-Spec and B-Spec, don't you lose the possibility for your driver to gain experience points for that race or A-Spec points?
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yes, if you mix them up then you get no A or B spec points. which i suppose doesnt mean much unless youre an elitest who wants to squeeze every last point available and have a 100% win ratio.
 
DJ-CiviC
All I would say is, if you got the time and if you really want to do it, do it A-Spec. I'm planning to do it A-Spec too...

The most importantly is, if you really like the game, you should do it A-Spec. The choice is up yours.

Also, if you want to do it A-Spec, ZZII is a good reference if you need more informations :D
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i agree with you, if you are really into the game u should do it in A-spec. 👍
 
ZZII
:crazy: :crazy: 9 seconds!? That's insane! That's what happened to me on the 4h: I had a good enough car to pull way ahead but I started listening to music and had an inefficient pit strategy, so the AI caught up to me and I had to really hold him off for the last few laps and won by only 8 seconds. But for the 24h, I made sure to leave room for error, but not kill the competition. I would love to go back and try it with the Amuse S2000 R1 for 200 points, though. I heard it's a great car to do it in, and I'm glad to see someone has proven this.

Also, as MADTJ was saying, the PS2 Slimline does not have as good a ventillation setup as the regular PS2, and so it may not be the best idea to a-spec on these. Has anyone else had Slimline 24h experience (good or bad?).
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umm i think u missed my point, my PS2 is 4 years old and this slimline didn't even out yet, i have those big old fat one
 
MADTJ
umm i think u missed my point, my PS2 is 4 years old and this slimline didn't even out yet, i have those big old fat one
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Ohhh okay, I misunderstood your original post. :)

Another thing I did to try to prevent PS2 "burnout" is vacuum the dust out of the ventillation slits. Not sure if it helps, but it made me feel better, at least.
 
ZZII
Ohhh okay, I misunderstood your original post. :)

Another thing I did to try to prevent PS2 "burnout" is vacuum the dust out of the ventillation slits. Not sure if it helps, but it made me feel better, at least.
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did it every week, and i also open the ps2 and use some air spray to clean dust out of inside, but 4 year old ps2, i think it's just old and needed renew but PS3 is comming soon....... so i'll wait for ps3, all i could do is borrow my friend's ps2 to play for just GT4
 
I totaly agree with everyone who thinks that you should a-spec to get the whole feeling of it. B-spec was made and shouln't it be used? And if your like me, have a job and go to school, you really dont have the time or want to spend the time going around the same track hundreds of times. But, if i had the time i would a-spec it to get the feeling that you achived something instead of letting the computer play the game for you...a bit lazy.
 

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