A couple of setting questions.

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well Im trying to learn how to tune, and Im starting with a mazda rx-7 95', and Im kind of stuck. When I drift through a long gentle turn, the rear doesn't want to break free, but when I take a hard turn and am able to break it free, I just oversteer too much, and spin around. I think this is because of the front tires not having enough grip.

here are my settings.
spring 4.6/7.8
height 95/95
bound 5/3
rebound 7/5
cam 3.5/0.5
toe 1/-2
stab 3/1

these are basically modified settings of some I found in the settings depot since those ones didn't seem to work for me. If someone sees something out of place in these can they point it out? And I need some advice on how to find balance between the front and rear. I dont know if it all comes down to skill in handling the car through different turns, or if theres something I can change in the settings to drastically improve it.

Also, I have a more general settings question.. What do you do if the car wants to change gears too quickly, but doesn't reach the mph it needs until a few seconds after you're reving to the max. thanks.

and by the way, I havee read the tutorial thing on tuning by tankspanker >_>
 
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well Im trying to learn how to tune, and Im starting with a mazda rx-7 95', and Im kind of stuck. When I drift through a long gentle turn, the rear doesn't want to break free, but when I take a hard turn and am able to break it free, I just oversteer too much, and spin around. I think this is because of the front tires not having enough grip.

here are my settings.
spring 4.6/7.8
height 95/95
bound 5/3
rebound 7/5
cam 3.5/0.5
toe 1/-2
stab 3/1
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It's more because you have too much rear grip. It's forcing to try too hard to lose rear grip and by then you are at too wide of an angle to save it. You should also raise the front sprign rate higher than the rear.
 
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well Im trying to learn how to tune, and Im starting with a mazda rx-7 95', and Im kind of stuck. When I drift through a long gentle turn, the rear doesn't want to break free, but when I take a hard turn and am able to break it free, I just oversteer too much, and spin around. I think this is because of the front tires not having enough grip.

here are my settings.
spring 4.6/7.8
height 95/95
bound 5/3
rebound 7/5
cam 3.5/0.5
toe 1/-2
stab 3/1

these are basically modified settings of some I found in the settings depot since those ones didn't seem to work for me. If someone sees something out of place in these can they point it out? And I need some advice on how to find balance between the front and rear. I dont know if it all comes down to skill in handling the car through different turns, or if theres something I can change in the settings to drastically improve it.
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yup, I'd start by doing exactly as Toronado said. Leave the rear rate for now and raise the front spring rate.
try it at something like... 6.5, 7.0, 8.0 and 8.5. See what setting is most comfortable for you and tune from there. I don't think you should need a 3kgf/mm difference between front and rear spring rates on a car that has near 50/50 weight distribution.

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Also, I have a more general settings question.. What do you do if the car wants to change gears too quickly, but doesn't reach the mph it needs until a few seconds after you're reving to the max. thanks.

and by the way, I havee read the tutorial thing on tuning by tankspanker >_>
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This means your gear settings are too tall (geared too much for accel as opposed to speed) or that you have too much power. You've got wheelspin.
Either drop the power, run shorter gears, or just practice a little throttle control. There's no rule carved in stone saying that you have to run at full throttle all the time.
 
these are the setiings i would recomend

spring 10.2/9.8
height 80/80
bound 5/4
rebound 8/8
cam 3.4/18
toe 0/0
stab 3/4
 
ah, thanks for your help all. I think did give this car a little more power than it needed, especially since driving it with stock settings, I realized it could still slide somewhat. I'll try out those settings too.
 
With this help you'll be able to drift the car much easier now;) Thats for shure, there couldn't be any other thing causing this:tup:
 
well, the settings are working nicely, but Im still getting too much wheel spin even with lowering the hp and changing the transmission.Guess I'll just have to keep changing it more.. or try to get another rx-7 with higher hp.
 
Hey BL, what's the site for the settings you and swift made up...How to tune cars...etc?
 
site? no site...
thread

check the link in my sig
 
Thanks BL, hey, HIDEYOURFACE!!! lol, thought that'd be a little funny, here's Boundary Layer and Swift's GT4 Drifting Guide, you can learn how to tune through that and there's vids to show you what kind of drift's there are. Just click here for the guide.
 
ummmm....
this is from his first post matt

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and by the way, I havee read the tutorial thing on tuning by tankspanker >_>
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lol
but good thought
 
o0o Oops...Sorry, I didn't read that, what a n00b (ME) :)
 
speaking of the faq, I think you should put more videos up on how to drift different kinds of turns, like u-turns, really long ones, 90 degree angles, and stuff like that. Once people know hoe to drift, I think the hardest thing to learn is to find the line, and how much speed you need going into different turns.
 
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speaking of the faq, I think you should put more videos up on how to drift different kinds of turns, like u-turns, really long ones, 90 degree angles, and stuff like that. Once people know hoe to drift, I think the hardest thing to learn is to find the line, and how much speed you need going into different turns.
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funny thing you should mention that...
there's a project going on at IDM very similar (if not identical) to what you're suggesting...

Nothing to see yet, we're still working on it. Progress has been slow lately.
 
i think it would be better if everyone learnd on their own
that way when it come down to 1 on 1 comps theres more veriety
 
GT4 Drift King
i think it would be better if everyone learnd on their own
that way when it come down to 1 on 1 comps theres more veriety
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help wouldn't hurt. The idea of training videos is AWESOME:sly: good luck to IDM and I can't wait to see them if you guys make them:)
 
GT4 Drift King
i think it would be better if everyone learnd on their own
that way when it come down to 1 on 1 comps theres more veriety
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well before you develop your own style you need to have the basics down and actually be capable of drifting. videos would help speed up that process I think, so you know what you should be aiming for when you first drift.
 
yah bsics are good but advanced techniqes should be left for them to figure out(mabye at most explained but not shown)
 
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