a lil breaking help

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sup everyones...gotta ask this cus its frustrating me. how do i adjust the brake contoller so that i can actually turn my frickin car for the corner? everytime i try to counterbrake/trail brake, my car does not turn?help??????.... :nervous:
 
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sup everyones...gotta ask this cus its frustrating me. how do i adjust the brake contoller so that i can actually turn my frickin car for the corner? everytime i try to counterbrake/trail brake, my car does not turn?help??????.... :nervous:
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well you might start off by telling us all how you have it set currently

right now its hard to say. If you're understeering with the majority of the brake bias to the rear, move a little more to the front.

If you already have considerable front brake bias, you could:
start braking earlier (you could simply be going too fast).

Or, try reducing the pressure applied to the brakes as you turn in. The front tires only have so much grip available before they give out. Braking takes precedence over steering in the grand scheme of things. If the brakes are using (for example) 90% of available grip at their full application, and then you try to make a large steering adjustment, understeer is the expected result.​

but, i would start by filling in the blanks in your question.
1. what is your current brake bias?
2. are you attempting to turn in with full braking pressure applied?
 
well, its actually in all my cars. i try to manage it but now its irking me..for all the cars, the current braking settings are 3 in the front and 3 in the back for all of em...yes my syle is turn with full brake application/or sometimes with the e-brake...hope that helps
 
i usually set my brakes to 15/15, especially with awd vehicles. i just use them for straight line braking, and then to help throw the car around with a quick press of the pedal after throttling into the turn.

hard to explain, easy to demonstrate.
 
You CANNOT turn while under full braking. Your front tires will lock up, much like in real life. More than likely, you will need to change you style accordingly, which means moderation with the brake as you turn in. I would give a slight bias to the rear as well if you want to drift.

And Omnis... my understanding of the brake balancer is that 1/1 and 24/24 are the exact same. What it does is determines the difference in brake distrubution... so 1/2 is 33% up front, and 66% in rear... while 23/24 is 48% in the front and 52% in the rear.
 
That has been one of the biggest changes I've noticed in GT4 (from GT3). The braking sensitivty has been tuned up an amazing degree. WHile in GT3 a full application of brakes tended to give you the ability to stop, in GT4, it does nothing but lock the tires.

My suggestion is work on brake control. When you come in hot to a corner, only apply the brake 1/2 way. You'll notice more control, and less tire squeal. Less tire squeal = more traction.

From your bried and eloquently worded desription it sounds like you'd coming into a corner, and going full lock, full lock. As in tires all the way over, brakes all the way on. This equals an immediate loss of traction as you've reduce tire grip and tire direction.

Give it a try, where you use a slower car, and not as much pressure on the brakes and steering. Follow my advice after you've followed TankSpankers.

AO
 
TankSpanker and Der Alta, excellent advise. Since this seems to be a common problem, I updated the drift reference to address this situation.
 
thanks to all for their help..i will try your suggestions shortly after i take new pix of my nsx-r concept and acura hsc...sweet cars. anybody want?
 
Heh actually if you want to do full brake entry's it is actualyl possible, just do 3 in back 9 in front, do a little feint motion before your drift(throw your car from the inside line to the outside) slam the brakes whie counterTURNING and your car will go into a drift motion from the weight transition, also there is this nifty little bar on the bottem of your screen that tell you your weight transition, it'll tell you when to brake and when to appyl throttle.
 

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