A TTTDI? How Do You Even Say That???

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After Audi unveiled the almighty R8 V12 TDI at the Detroit Auto Show, I asked the obvious question and they made it clear that they had no plans to build a production version. Now that the disappointment has subsided somewhat, Audi is offering up a consolation prize, although it's not known yet if the US market will get a crack at it. For the first time since the original TT debuted ten years ago, Audi will be offering a version with a diesel engine. A 170 hp, 258 lb-ft 2.0L TDI will be available in both the TT Coupe and Roadster. Putting the torque down through all four wheels by way of a six-speed manual gearbox, the coupe will run 0-62 mph in 7.5 sec, with the ragtop accomplishing the feat in 7.7sec. While by no means blistering speeds, the nature of diesel engine torque will mean that the TTs will feel quick everywhere. The real upside to all of this is the fuel economy of this claimed world's first diesel sports car. The lighter, more aerodynamic coupe will be capable of 44.3 mpg while the convertible is just behind again at 42.7. Pretty impressive when gas prices as likely to go ever higher. The Audi press release is after the jump.
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EPIC!

A fast, clearly capable car that gets 44 MPG and probably won't be too hard on the wallet? I'd definitely say that this joins the R8 and S5 as one of three Audis I'd actually want.
 
TDI- Turbo Diesel Injection? Imagine if it were a Twin Turbo, TTTTDI :lol: Sounds like Diesel is the way of the future at the moment. Screw electric, slow cars for Mums maybe.......
 
Posh... my crappy old beater is faster.

But damned if i can actually get over 30 mpg... the way I drive... :lol:
 
Is this the same engine we'll be seeing in the TDI Jetta? I seem to recall that engine having less torque with similar power numbers. Whatever is in the Jetta Sportwagen is what the mom and dad want next :dopey:.

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A fast, clearly capable car that gets 44 MPG and probably won't be too hard on the wallet? I'd definitely say that this joins the R8 and S5 as one of three Audis I'd actually want.
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I wonder what it will cost. Given the performance, it can't be too much....
 
Considering a Cooper for myself, this would pretty much run at about the same speed and get better fuel economy. Then one reminds himself that it would likely cost double what the MINI would, and furthermore, that the Rabbit TDI would be a better choice should VW ever offer it in North America.
 
The VW guys in Chicago said that the Jetta would be here, and it's up on the VW site. I wouldn't be surprised to see more models coming in the future.
 
Well this is the future guys. 👍
Who says hybrid, electric and E85 cars are good? Diesels are as good as ever!!! 44.3 mpg for a sports car? :eek: I wonder if the engine noise is like the R10.... :D Definitely something to look forward to......
 
This one does lead me to wonder that if a TT-TDI could be a success, how far away could that pesky R8 TDI be? Furthermore, if the concept is a success for Volkswagen/Audi, it would be an extremely short amount of time before BMW, Mercedes and the like eventually deposit their own diesel-powered sports cars in the market.

High torque, moderately high horsepower, and high fuel efficiency should make it a no-brainer for the US market...
 
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This one does lead me to wonder that if a TT-TDI could be a success, how far away could that pesky R8 TDI be? Furthermore, if the concept is a success for Volkswagen/Audi, it would be an extremely short amount of time before BMW, Mercedes and the like eventually deposit their own diesel-powered sports cars in the market.

High torque, moderately high horsepower, and high fuel efficiency should make it a no-brainer for the US market...
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Holden's Commodore is getting a VM Motori V6, it's a family sports car, and early speculation was that the diesel V6 will be getting 180kw and over 500Nm of torque (convert it yourself to imperial :sly: ) That might be enough torque to make it perform better than the petrol V6. Time will tell.
 
Remaps to 205 hp and more torque than your average V8. A twin turbo 2.0TDI is in development to give over 200hp stock.

Oh and my sources were correct again, months ago they were saying there was gonna be a 2.0TDI Quattro. :D
 
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Furthermore, if the concept is a success for Volkswagen/Audi, it would be an extremely short amount of time before BMW, Mercedes and the like eventually deposit their own diesel-powered sports cars in the market.
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I think the new Volkswagen Diesels will be the cars to watch, being the mainstream interest checkers. And I believe the other Germans already have plans to assault the market with their oil-burners, so they should probably be here in a few years. A diesel SLK and Z-series would be interesting though.
 
Finally, after all these years, just what ive been waiting for!👍, I want one of these... BAD
 
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I think the new Volkswagen Diesels will be the cars to watch, being the mainstream interest checkers. And I believe the other Germans already have plans to assault the market with their oil-burners, so they should probably be here in a few years. A diesel SLK and Z-series would be interesting though.
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Mercedes has already begun to infiltrate the market, albeit, quietly. There have already been several glowing reviews of the E320 and ML320 (or was it the GL?), so its only a matter of time before they shove a few more BluTecs in the rest of the lineup.

...BMW is due to give us the 335d by the end of this calendar year, I believe. And there is talk of us getting a diesel 1-series as well. One hopes the 535d comes as part of the package too...

Volkswagen's expanded diesel line should be arriving at dealers shortly as well. When I was there a few days ago, they had two phone calls about the diesel Jetta, and they've already got a waiting list with several people on it. Rational thought leads me to believe that they will offer the engine in the Passat shortly thereafter, and one would hope that the Rabbit eventually gets the same optional engine. Hopefully.

Ford and Chrysler, as far as I know, do not have large diesel programs, which make me very sad. The thought of a diesel Fusion or Taurus is indeed quite good, but with the EcoBoost stuff coming down the line, I suppose I can't be too sad. Chrysler still had plans to use their former overlord's BluTec stuff, in Jeeps I think, but not much has happened with it lately.

As for GM, here in North America, only the new 4.5L diesel V8 has been approved for sale in our trucks and SUVs. Because it will fit wherever a small block can, the theory is that it will make its way into the G8 and possibly the Camaro. That same diesel V6 from the CTS may eventually be offered here as well, but there aren't any plans for that (officially) on the books. One would hope that it gets the green light, and furthermore, that it finds its way into the next Aura/Malibu/G6/9-3/etc.

Honda has a diesel version of the Accord coming down the pipe for 2009 as well, and I believe the same version of that engine will be made available in the Acura TSX as well. Assuming that it is successful, I wouldn't be surprised to eventually see a diesel-powered Civic, and likely, diesel-powered versions of the Odyssey and Pilot.
 
That lump has been available over here in the 5-door A3 for some time now. Don't know how long exactly, but a mate has one on a 56 plate, so it's over a year.

I think that these high-specific-output diesels are in the second stage of maturity. My Espace (2.0 dCi 175bhp) drives like a petrol, in that it's pretty much dead below 1,500rpm, then the power comes in all of a rush by 2,000, and it's all done at 4,000, even though the rev limit is at 5,500. I think I've been at 5,000 once in 13,000 miles. So, it's not a tractor like my Dad's Shogun (2.8L turbo diesel, chipped to 180bhp), which never needs to go above 2,000 rpm, and smokes like a chimney if you do. Mine is clean, smooth and fast, but dead low down, and dead high up. Still faintly trad-diesel in that respect.

But I've noticed that the service intervals on these cars are quite low, suggesting a degree of stress to the engine. Mine has an interval of 9,000 miles, whereas the 150bhp 2.2 diesel is 12,000, and Dad's Shogun is 18,000. This will be the third stage: when such powerful diesels can give the numbers but also not have to go to the garage quite so often.
 
On this engine I think its every 10k that they need servicing, or every year. Know of one guy having upgraded his A3 2.0TDI to 330hp. Says next stage is over 400hp and he doesnt seem to have had any reliability problems as of yet.
 

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