A tuning tutorial would be welcomed

[Unknown?]

One thing I think Polyphony should include in future updates/games is a tuning tutorial. They give you lots of tuning options but I don't know what the heck the effect of changing the camber will do or how to properly adjust the stiffness of the shocks. It would be cool if they had some sort of basic training that would let people who have never worked on cars know what it is that they are doing.

 

[Verbal]

It would be cool if they had some sort of basic training that would let people who have never worked on cars know what it is that they are doing.

Im an automotive engineer and vehicle dynamics is my day job. TBH that doesn't help me the slightest bit with setting up cars in GT. Some settings work as expected, but many others do very little and some even do the exact opposite of what you'd expect...

 

[The_Rpg_Moogle]

I support this, even if it was only a tutorial on how the tuning works in the game instead of in real life. I can't for the life of me grasp wether I'm setting the suspension stiffer or softer...

Honestly, what is it?

Lower numbers are softer, higher numbers are stiffer, or is it the other way around? Add to that the fact that apparently for some cars the suspension works reversed and there you have my confusion

 

[Nurburgthing.]

Doesn't each option have a little explanation / rough outline of what your fettling will do? I know 5 did.

For me, tuning is a 3 stage thing, suspension first, gearing depending on the circuit or circumstance and then start adding power. The LSD settings is still a bit of a mystery to me.

Just like real life though, always tune the chassis before adding any extra power.

 

[Bo]

All settings have descriptions, I think that should suffice. And there are some glitches with the settings, for example camber just reduces grip without doing anything else.

 

[TenEightyOne]

There are millions of tuning guides on the internet and I'll wager that over 2.7 million of those are on this forum*



*Facts guessed for illustration purposes

 

[Exorcet]

There are millions of tuning guides on the internet and I'll wager that over 2.7 million of those are on this forum*



*Facts guessed for illustration purposes

One big problem there is trying to figure out who is correct. I've seem some very bad things written. It would be nice if PD provided a guide. In the old days when game manuals were more than a sheet of paper, you had lots of useful information. In fact the Gran Turismo 1 manual is excellent. Recent GT manuals have gone downhill with most games, but PD did put an extensive in-game manual in GT5. Is there no such thing in GT6?

All settings have descriptions, I think that should suffice.

It might be enough when just starting, but when you try more advanced tuning simple descriptions can leave a lot of questions.

 

[TenEightyOne]

One big problem there is trying to figure out who is correct. I've seem some very bad things written.

There are genuinely some poor guides but it comes down to this; does the advice work for you or not?

I've often found that I can't drive friends' tunes and vice-versa. I like understeer setups, some of my friends like oversteer setups.

That means that the advice that helps one person might be completely useless for you. Start trying some guides and find a tuner who seems to suit your style.

 

[ploopsy]

The descriptions given ingame are still a bit iffy and vague. With that said they have improved a lot over the years. In past GT games some of the English descriptions of settings read like they were robo-translated from Japanese to English so the grammar was a bit funky.

 

[Nurburgthing.]

Try and get a copy of Apex which came with GT5. Quite a lot of info in that. Doesn't GTPs very own GTPedia have a guide within?

 

[xiando]

The hardest part for me isn't finding credible sources of info on the net, it is translating solid, technical content from reputable sources on the net with the "game" aspect of the tuning controls onboard GT.

 

[LVracerGT]

Im an automotive engineer and vehicle dynamics is my day job. TBH that doesn't help me the slightest bit with setting up cars in GT. Some settings work as expected, but many others do very little and some even do the exact opposite of what you'd expect...

This, I can tune cars in GT but it takes 5 times as long as other racing sims. A tuning guide won't help when the tuning options don't work like they should. I've been saying since GT5 launched how mind boggling it is that they still don't have tire pressure adjustments (the most basic tuning adjustment, that can make a big difference at the same time). I kept my hopes high for GT6 but no dice. Still no individual camber, and spring rate adjustments, still no positive camber adjustments, still no caster adjustments. All this hype about the new suspension and tire model and still the same barbaric tuning adjustments.

It's literally impossible to tune a car properly in GT. Ever heard of cross caster settings for tracks with more turns one way than another? Even if you have you can't do it in GT. Camber is the biggest piss off in GT. Without any sort of telemetry, camber settings are a shot in the dark, and any changes are a battle between the car actually handling better or a placebo effect.

 

[andy0a]

Yes a tutorial is welcome and it would help many people no doubt, but.... When I played GT5 I had no idea what anything did, besides an oil change and car wash. To be completely honest to the OP, the tuning part is one of the higher learning curves of the game, and frankly the only way you can really learn is to try it out yourself, immerse yourself, apply different settings, check lap times, thats what gave me some semblance of what to do. GT6 is a bit buggy so settings that would apply in real life and for GT5 are sometimes invalid now, or they are even reversed.

Though with GT6 like ^ post, no telemetry settings or raw data? Geez, thanks, its like I'm doing tuning in a third world country.

If you need help or issues with things, you could always post it as a question, as many bright minds and engineer aspiring tuner geniuses will be glad to help on GTPlanet.

 

[LVracerGT]

Some of the tuning adjustments have descriptions in the game that tells you what they do. I.E. fully adjustable LSD. But like was stated before, some adjustments are backwards or don't work like they should.