About brake drifting.

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I'm not sure how it really works, but is this how it goes?

You approach a corner and as you reach it, you brake first then turn hard enough so the car starts to slide sideways and at the same time add some throttle to try to keep it sliding sideways until you reach the exit.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Yes... There seems to be nothing wrong with your method... The reason that happens is because all the weight is unloaded from the rear, causing the rear wheels to spin excessively... That is how a drift starts :)
 
break drifting is the most efficent way of drifting most of the time. i like feinting to link turns, plus it looks cool. even though you cant really do it in gt3, in other sims like gt4 you dont even need to use the break to drift. and the handbreak is basicly useless in gt3 in my opinion. but thats just my small opinion. I mean, if driver induced understeer isnt possible in gt3, then you should have no need for a handbreak. but whatever floats ur boat. I know people use it in real life because its easier than shifting weight... but theres still no need for it in gt3. maybe gt4 will be realistic enough to make it feel more usefull. 👍
 
alright alrighties... you drift guru's have successfully confused me again :scared:
hehe.. anyways, i believe i've asked this question before... and i recieved different answers.. being assured they were correct...

anywyas.. i asked whether you are supposed to break first and then turn.. or turn then break. SD and monkey magix i think both agreed you break after you turn in.. because the sudden loss of wheel spin breaks traction... but just like you... i was thinking that loading all the weight onto the front wheels w/heavy braking then turning in would work... unfortunately.. it works better for me in gt2 to turn then break...

could anyone explain this to me??? :ouch:
 
Well Gabkicks, I think your wrong about ebrake drifting in real life because, think about it, your flying down the freeway like 120mph, wtf are u gonna do when corner comes up, you gonna break, and think you'll be able to turn easily, or use the ebrakes??????.....I also believe they have it for GT3 because, ppl can get around sharper corners faster by using the ebrake b4 entering the corner, than braking, and turning.
 
e-brake in real drifting is priceless and a must. In GT3 maybe. There are differences between sliding in GT3 and in real life. Brake drifts are fairly uncommon when it comes to the street and your average drifter being that brake drifts tend to be more difficult and dangerous because your entry speed will be more to compensate for braking harder than usual. E-brake drifts are the best bet more often than not when it comes to safe, effective drifts. Of course I am talking real life...in GT3 the e-brake can be used to get your ass where you need it when in the middle of a slide, or a way to lose some speed while maintaining angle.
 
I normally 'drift with the brakes out'... Either inertia or power oversteer (and I've refined my power oversteer to a degree now that I just have to use the engine's power to initialte the drift, not carry it the whole way through like I used to)
 
DarkAzN
Well Gabkicks, I think your wrong about ebrake drifting in real life because, think about it, your flying down the freeway like 120mph, wtf are u gonna do when corner comes up, you gonna break, and think you'll be able to turn easily, or use the ebrakes??????.....I also believe they have it for GT3 because, ppl can get around sharper corners faster by using the ebrake b4 entering the corner, than braking, and turning.



nope, i've seen it in real life. if you just start your slide really early you dont need much breaking at all if any. the handbreak obviosly is usefull as you can see in any drifting vid. but in gt3 its not needed. I'm good at weight shifting. and for me, the ebreak is way too slow. 👍
 
Sorry very offtopic but the monkeyd and supraflys crew aren't here anymore? It's been a very long time since I've been here and was just wondering. soo new.....!
 
azndrifter318
Sorry very offtopic but the monkeyd and supraflys crew aren't here anymore? It's been a very long time since I've been here and was just wondering. soo new.....!

Nice to see ya.... It has been a while...

Project D and Monkey D are both in limbo until GT4 arives.... However, there is a new team "cough" IDM "cough"... *looks at sig*....


;)
 
hate it or love 180 hit it on the head. e-breaking alone is a real move in drifting called a "side-long" drift, san-patsu drifts or hi speed drifts dont need the e break cause of the speed but can be used to keep the rear out. plus not all drifts nor many enter at 120 mph more like 120kph or 60 to 80 mph
 
ur correct, but u sound like something out of those D1 highlight vids. It just sounds weird calling it a move :indiff: Ebreaking is the safest way to drift because its one of the slowest, and doesnt require great weight shifting skill.
 
E-braking is the first thing that comes to people's minds if the want to slide or drift...
 
sorry for being snappy,, just around it alot. technique would have been a better word i guess just did'nt come to me thats all
 
Gabkicks
ur correct, but u sound like something out of those D1 highlight vids. It just sounds weird calling it a move :indiff: Ebreaking is the safest way to drift because its one of the slowest, and doesnt require great weight shifting skill.

Good answer... That's very true...

The E-brake is a very useful tool... It can be used to lengthen drifts, it can be used to initiate drifts, it can be used to adjust angle (especially in AWD's), and of course it has to be used with FF's....

;)
 
isnt e brake drifting called choku dori .. i think im correct the e brake is used to start a drift earlier and get higher angle on ne given corner i personally like a the brake but it really isnt needed in gt3 if u havea good weight shifting technique .. what is manji ?
 
DarkAzN
Well Gabkicks, I think your wrong about ebrake drifting in real life because, think about it, your flying down the freeway like 120mph, wtf are u gonna do when corner comes up, you gonna break, and think you'll be able to turn easily, or use the ebrakes??????.....I also believe they have it for GT3 because, ppl can get around sharper corners faster by using the ebrake b4 entering the corner, than braking, and turning.

ok....let's just hope that all the drivers out there have enough brain power to brake earlier for a turn when they're going 120 mph...i can't really say e-braking for drifing is totally WRONG, but it is if you're using it to start a drift and get sideways...using the brake is plenty. E-brake can be used to extend your drifts not to start them...unless you're (FF sliding)
 
Granted forced induction, using brake can be enough, but here is how I usually come in corners (real). I'll be doing about 70-90 km and right before I start to turn the wheel I hit the floor brake and the e-brake. (while I have the e-brake up, i'm clutching and reving) This allows my car to toally lock up and makes it very easy for me to keep it going. There are a billion techniques to start a drift, but braking is one of the more hard ways. It's not quite as simple as doing 120mph, braking hard and turning into the corner. That's how I've seen countless new people total cars...
 
i still think its shady in gt3 to slide through a turn going 45mph using e break to keep the car sideways, when you can get the same angle at 60mph. In games like lfs i understand a lil handbreak here and there. but gt3.... Maybe for a few weird turns, but i dont even use it then, but i'm not that showy. lol, i've chokued more during actual races (my winning celebration if i burned someone right before i cross the finnish line) than during drift sessions.
 
Choki's are fishtail drifts down the straight boys.... E-brake's have two uses for drifting, one... To extend drifts and two... start a drift before a turn actually start ( means when you hit the apex, you are already sideways ;)) I don't demonize e-brake, I just don't see much use of it yet... Gt4 perhaps but Gt3 is only for early drifts... I'm out :)
 
ummm all this choku this and dori that...honestly no one uses these terms. Not even people in japan. It just sounds like someone reading a website or a book. Common terms like faint, e-brake drift, power-over, yes these are used, but the actual japaneese names aren't even used here in japan lol...Also, even pro's use e-brake during a slide. It helps stabalize your ass end, can slow you down if your drifting close to someone or start a drift. When it comes to drifting e-brake, a manual, rear-wheel drive (yes I know front can "drift") are all a MUST.
 
Hmmm.. I have to agree with you there 180sx... I've rarely used this term until now...
 
drifting 180sx
ummm all this choku this and dori that...honestly no one uses these terms. Not even people in japan. It just sounds like someone reading a website or a book. Common terms like faint, e-brake drift, power-over, yes these are used, but the actual japaneese names aren't even used here in japan lol...Also, even pro's use e-brake during a slide. It helps stabalize your ass end, can slow you down if your drifting close to someone or start a drift. When it comes to drifting e-brake, a manual, rear-wheel drive (yes I know front can "drift") are all a MUST.

guys, we are talking about the game, not in real life...
e-brake is NOT a MUST in the game...
 
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