ABS

[GTP_Monkey]

can anyone tell me the difference ABS make to wheel users,

I’m not seeing much here.

 

[Stotty]

Same as for pad users... allows you to apply the brakes without them locking.

 

[PorscheHD]

Less understeer when cornering i think. But if you are a decent driver that always brakes on time its not a real diffrence.

 

[Stotty]

Less understeer when cornering i think. But if you are a decent driver that always brakes on time its not a real diffrence.

It could help reduce understeer if you trail brake, and you're not reducing brake pressure sufficiently.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

It could help reduce understeer if you trail brake, and you're not reducing brake pressure sufficiently.

One of the challenges actually prompts you to trail brake by leaning on the ABS. Feels all kinds of wrong to me and I could match the time without doing this. I guess it depends on the car but I'm not aware of this being common practise in motorsport. Am I wrong?

 

[Stotty]

One of the challenges actually prompts you to trail brake by leaning on the ABS. Feels all kinds of wrong to me and I could match the time without doing this. I guess it depends on the car but I'm not aware of this being common practise in motorsport. Am I wrong?

Yes, trail braking is essential in some cars.

For example... You won't get a 911 round a circuit with any decent pace without trail braking. WTCC cars are the same.

It's an essential technique to shorten braking distances, reduce entry understeer and control weight transfer.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

Yes, trail braking is essential in some cars.

For example... You won't get a 911 round a circuit with any decent pace without trail braking. WTCC cars are the same.

It's an essential technique to shorten braking distances, reduce entry understeer and control weight transfer.

Trail braking with lots of ABS activation though? I'd always trail brake myself but not by letting the ABS essentially do it for me. I guess if the ABS is good it could trail brake better than a human foot.

 

[Stotty]

Trail braking with lots of ABS activation though? I'd always trail brake myself but not by letting the ABS essentially do it for me. I guess if the ABS is good it could trail brake better than a human foot.

ABS won't let you carry full brake pressure whilst trail braking... you still need to reduce the brake pressure proportional to how much lock you're applying.

 

[Tekku]

The difference is that GTS don't use linear patterns for brake and throttle control so it can be quite tricky to hold the brakes in a certain position with a pedal. This is obvious when you try to trail brake for instance. It's currently much more suited for a controller.

Someone shared this video a while back that explains it: