Add option to restart race in a championship

[Sier_Pinski]

Seriously. It's frustrating having to exit and redo a whole championship because of a spin-out or being pitted by the AI in a certain race. Just add a reset button to the pause menu to restart a single race in a championship.

 

[varmintx]

Ummm...that's the point of a championship. One screw-up could mean you lose. Without that consequence, there's no difference between them and the normal set of races.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I'm sure Lewis Hamilton would've liked this in China in 2007.

 

[MadCyclist]

Seriously. It's frustrating having to exit and redo a whole championship because of a spin-out or being pitted by the AI in a certain race. Just add a reset button to the pause menu to restart a single race in a championship.

It's true, the whole deal of a championship is that it isn't simple grinding and if you lose one, you may very well lose all. If push comes to shove, suspend the championship and backup your save after each win; I had to do that for the Dream Car Championship in GT5 with the dreaded XJR-9 using my 787B prior to winning the MINOLTA.

 

[khj94704]

I'm sure Lewis Hamilton would've liked this in China in 2007.

And Massa would have liked it if the race had started 2 minutes earlier at Interlagos in 2008...

 

[JogoAsobi]

It was the same deal in GT5.
on FGT Championship a few times, until I could win them all in a row.
Would not have it any other way.

 

[Whodoyouthink]

It's true, the whole deal of a championship is that it isn't simple grinding and if you lose one, you may very well lose all. If push comes to shove, suspend the championship and backup your save after each win; I had to do that for the Dream Car Championship in GT5 with the dreaded XJR-9 using my 787B prior to winning the MINOLTA.

Was the case for me with the Formula GT Championship. Probably the most stressed I've ever been playing Gran Turismo. The car, races, and game may not have been the best simulation, but what I felt was probably as close as it gets. Seriously the amount of concentration and reaction needed to win those races was unreal! I mean with that car it wasn't just about taking the lead but also maintaining it. Terribly wild car, even with proper tuning.

Anyway, as long as you finish well enough to win a gold overall in the championship, then you can get a bad result in a race or two and then go back to gold them afterwards. I'd say if you can't do well enough to get the overall result you want within 1-2 tries, you need to practice more. I'll reiterate and say the whole idea of the championships is to put some pressure on you to preform and have a consequence for not meeting the gold standard.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I understand the OPs' frusturation. Yes, having a restart button during a championship would defeat the whole point. But when some BS happens, you really wish it was there for a moment, especially if you were dominating the first few races.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

I rarely restart a race of any type, just doesn't seem right to do so. I definitely think that allowing to restart a race in a championship would be a bad idea. You get spun out you just have to recover as best you can and try to get the best finish you can and move on to the next race. If you do not get gold overall then do it again and again if necessary until you win it then if there is a race or 2 in there where you did not get gold run that race again.

Over the years I have been in a lot of races in various games where I got spun out or overcooked a corner and fell way behind. I always hang in there and do the best I can afterwards if nothing else I get more experience on the track and sometimes even win those races thought to be lost or place much higher than I would have thought.

 

[FishHunters]

No. Its frustrating, but that's what it's all about. Its a series and you have to outscore the opposition. One mistake may be catastrophic.

 

[Broseph]

Then there would be no reason to have championships at all. The entire game would just be single races. I vote no.

This is almost as bad as that "rewind" button in forza. No risk = no challenge = no fun.

 

[o9lifted]

No!

 

[kizz29]

I would like to add a practice option to set my gears properly, and maybe a qualifying option too.

 

[che_bonsai]

I would like to add a practice option to set my gears properly, and maybe a qualifying option too.

And that's good idea!
BTW, if you lose championship - you can still replay cirquits one-by-one then (thats okay for Platinum trophy).
I have the same frustration with Karts, but i mastering my driveskills and will close KartsCHamp on gold (not only single races).

 

[mister dog]

I would like to add a practice option to set my gears properly, and maybe a qualifying option too.

That would defeat the purpose of the rubber banded AI; they want you in the same starting position so it will take you the amount of laps before the final one to get past the moving obstacles, then the rabbit waits for you, let's you pass and then pushes you until the finish line, so all the punters that don't know any better have that feeling of "excitement" and "a close race".

Qualifying, grid starts etcetera would jeapordize this "science".

 

[Dave Beerman]

championship position reversed order grid starts would make my GT experience a lot better

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

That would defeat the purpose of the rubber banded AI; they want you in the same starting position so it will take you the amount of laps before the final one to get past the moving obstacles, then the rabbit waits for you, let's you pass and then pushes you until the finish line, so all the punters that don't know any better have that feeling of "excitement" and "a close race".

Qualifying, grid starts etcetera would jeapordize this "science".

The car in front does not wait for you though he will drive slower if you are not catching up, He also does not rubber bang to hang with you though he will draft off you if close and may have a faster car. He will drive harder once you are in front but this general term of rubber banding is inaccurate.

If you take a car that is to slow you will not win. If you take a car that is to fast and drive well you will win by a very large margin. If you take the right car you will have a close race. What the right car is depends on your skill level. For me it is anywhere from 50-100 PP below the AI. Note this is not 50-100PP below the max allowed but below what the AI is using. Some races will allow you 50+ PP more than the AI and if you use a car like that then only the worst drivers would ever see a challenge.

As for qualifing the AI is slow in the corners so it is not hard to turn a faster lap even in a weaker car so getting pole position would not be hard in most cases and then you start out front and run away with the race easily. For me this would not be nearly as much fun and would require me to run additional laps that I am not getting paid for so I would not use it even if it were there.

GT4 had it. I think I used it in one championship on 2 tracks. Hong Kong and Opera of Paris. Hong Kong especially was hard to pass on and I would get started behind the RX7 or something like that with the Minolta up front so by the time I got past the slower cars in the rear the Minolta would have a huge lead and was very difficult to catch whereas if I qualified I could start on the pole and win easily. Of course this was back in the day when I drove with the DS, did not know the track and had little experience on GT. Now I would start in the back every time on purpose to make the race harder

championship position reversed order grid starts would make my GT experience a lot better

That would actually be good as the same car would not always be finishing at the front of the pack in many cases

 

[Catlin]

Do you want a rewind feature too in case you crash?

 

[Jubby]

I'd like to see the cut penalty added to International A championships and races, too. They occur in Super events, but the Super events are very light in volume. Removing the restart option is awesome for higher level races.

 

[DBM]

I find the AI drive better in Championship races and try very hard not to hit you, anyone else found this.
As said before you can always suspend the Championship and backup the save, and re-load save if it goes badly wrong.
Most Championship's pay good money, so I don't mind having to repeat, If I do badly.

 

[sorg]

Actually, not having restart option is a stupid idea. Not because I like to defeat championship idea, but because THERE IS option to restart the race.
You just need to suspend the championship and exit the game. Then start the game again and play from suspended position. If you loose, then restart the whole game (not race) again. And you can do this as many times as you want until u get desired result.
That's why having this "long way" option, it's stupid to not allow restart the race as usual.

Actually, GT5/6 have a lot non-logical behavior and features. Strange that in 15 years PDI still makes the game looking like made by novice developer.

 

[MSTER232]

It was the same deal in GT5.
on FGT Championship a few times, until I could win them all in a row.
Would not have it any other way.

It was the same deal in GT4 and GT3. In fact it might have been like this with championships since the first GT game.

 

[eSZee]

While I've spent many many hours redoing various championships because of the AI's or my own mistakes, I would hope championships stay as they are.

 

[RReed43]

I would like to add a practice option to set my gears properly, and maybe a qualifying option too.

The way to do this is to practice the tracks in Arcade mode before competing in the Championship. I had to practice with the 125 Shifter Carts because i was unfamiliar with both the tracks and the carts. I also learned how to set the gears for the tracks.

I believe the Championship format is the most challenging encountered in the GT series and should be kept as is.

 

[lazywolfe]

Do you want a rewind feature too in case you crash?

And if he does? Nothing wrong with that. He'd effectively be playing on Easy difficulty if it were F1 2010.

I use the highest difficulty in the F1 games for fun and it takes away the rewinds. Win/win solution. As has been demonstrated a million times already, GT needs options.

 

[e-racer]

I would like to add a practice option to set my gears properly, and maybe a qualifying option too.

There is a way to practice. Suspend the championship, run the track on it's own to get your gearing correct, then go back in.

 

[lazywolfe]

There is a way practice. Suspend the championship, run the track on it's own to get your gearing correct, then go back in.

And you know that's incredibly tedious, right? Please say yes.

 

[Bo]

I was doing the Red Bull championships today, and in the karts at Eiger I got mindlessly turned round at the first corner... but I put my head down and won quite easily. The championships aren't that hard, if you have a huge crash, get taken out etc, i'm sure you would be back in the lead within 1 lap. I was actually doing the electric series at Matterhorn today in an Aqua, and I rolled the thing with 2 corners to go. The lead Prius was so slow that I floored the throttle and overtook him in the braking zone. You must never give up, because the AI does begin to slow down. And if you do screw up very badly and need to restart, then it's your own fault. If you're a real racing driver and have a bad round, you can't stop the whole field, line everyone up and have another crack at it. It's racing.

EDIT -

Actually, GT5/6 have a lot non-logical behavior and features. Strange that in 15 years PDI still makes the game looking like made by novice developer.

And by begging for championship restarts, you look like a novice driver. If you lose because you kept crashing, tough. You weren't fast enough. Having every single race incredibly easy to win in defeats the whole objective of racing - you will never have a desire to do better or improve your skills. PD are doing you a world of good by making you pay for mistakes, because it makes you want that win and want to improve. If you want every single race to be super easy, you might want to stop playing racing simulators, because they simulate real life.

 

[GT5Power]

Having a restart button would ruin the point of the championship. I do understand your frustration, but that would make championships too easy, wouldn't it?

 

[frivoloushobby]

It doesn't bother me that there is no reset for championships. It does bother me that I have to compete against touring cars and LMPs. Yes, TCs and LMPs race on the same track at the same time but they do not race each other. It makes the leaderboard too predictable and limits my car options if I want a first place championship when there are 2 LMPs and 14 touring cars.