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I'm new to the GT series and a know-nothing about cars...I currently ave a maxed out Viper, but I'm really bad at turning and cornering...I can beat anything straightaway, but I lose alot of ground on complex tracks ie the first time I played Cote d Azur...what are the best cornering techniques you guys have? Also, how exactly do I drift? I heard that was really useful. Thanks
 
drifting is not useful in racing. Drifting is a show technique to make a corner where your car is sideways skidding.

As for cornering tips...don't use your viper. American cars are meant for speed and power. With there monser engines they way much more than japense cars. What i would suggest is buying an rx-7 the most expensive one (don't buy the supra rz...it doesn't handle well). Fully modded the rx-7 has 709hp w/ an oil change which ius well below the vipers 1000hp but the rx-7 is lightweight and can handle.
 
Troy offers some good suggestions. Although I think his opinion may need to be eased up a bit. Maybe check his grammar as well.

Shock 6822: leave the thoughts of drifting on the doorstep for the moment. It's best to learn how to drive first. Grab a Miata and head for the Roadster enduro. Give it just an oil change and some tires (If you've got the cash).

The other thing you may want to try is taking all the Power mods off the viper.

As for cornering techniques, Brake considerably earlier than you think you should. You've already gained plenty of speed in the straights, losing a bit in the corners shouldn't cause the AI to catch up too quickly. You'll hear "Slow in, Fast out" from alot of people. Try running a Lancer EVO, or an RX-7. Skip the power upgrades, and go for the other upgrades first.

My humble opinion states that 80% of the game is won in the corners, not on the Straight-away.

To add an additional note, The viper and Cote D'azur were a bad combination. Try the RX-7 w/ suspension, brakes, and racing transmission on Grand Valley.

Best of luck

AO
 
Good advice as always from AO. And welcome aboard GTPlanet, Shock!

Don't worry about power at all, at first. Driving an underpowered car will force you to learn smooth driving habits, which you can use later to great advantage with more powerful cars.

In general order, I mod my cars this way:
1) lightweight 1 & 2
2) super slicks
3) power upgrade, or race trans
4) suspension upgrade
5) race trans, or power upgrade
6) everything else

Many people start with a Miata, but the Yaris/Vitz is good too with 75 hp worth of power upgrade. If you have money, I recommend the Evo VI RS, which is the lightest Evo. It is easy to drive when adjusted a little, and can make real power with upgrades. See the 4WD Tuning thread on the "settings" board.

Repeat it like a mantra - "Slow In, Fast Out." The sooner you get on the brakes, the sooner you can get back on the gas.

Good luck and most importantly, have fun!
 
Yeah, I got over a million credits and a bunch of great race cars in my garage so $ is no problem...

What car should I use in place of the Viper? Again, Im willing to spend about any amount of credits...I want a car that;; win me every race I enter ;D

And trying that Roadster endurance, I keep getting in second but the first place car is way ahead...guess I need more practice lol...I put medium racing tires on the Miata

Glad to be aboard duke :)
 
Ah, looking for your babe. I got one of those. Its my 787b, i take it everywhere..though i am 100% done so there's no where else to take it.

I would suggest trying the s lisnese, if that seems just plain impossible, then take your viper to the ameture Gran Turismo World Chapms (10 races/ 5 laps a peice) and win 1st place for the first 9. AT THE END OF THE 9TH RACE SAVE IT, THEN WHEN U CONTIUNE TO THE 10TH RACE (sorry about caps) and just press start and exit. After that u should win the series. And if u don't win the toyota gt1 road car, reset and just keep quiting the 10th race till u win the toyota gt1 road car (a red race car with a huge wing)
 
Originally posted by Shock6822
Yeah, I got over a million credits and a bunch of great race cars in my garage so $ is no problem...
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I smell Gameshark! :lol:
 
Just too much time on my hands...I have 300 something thousand base credits and if I sell all my cars Ill have well over a million

Edit: I have 333,460 credits. I'm at day 175. In my garage:
CLK Touring Car worth 250k credits
CL600 worth 34k credits
Corvette C5R worth 250k credits
Lancer Evolution IV GSR(J) worth 7.5k credits
Camaro Race Car at 250k credits
Astra Touring Car worth 245k
Vertigo Race Car worth 300k
Vertigo Race Car worth 300k (Yes I have 2)
Spoon S2000 Race Car worth 50k
Viper GTS which is my main car at 20k

Add that up and its uh..like 1.8 million total credits. Thats my story ;)
 
Originally posted by Shock6822
Add that up and its uh..like 1.8 million total credits. Thats my story
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Heh, well. I'm not here to judge you. I'm just wondering how you won all those cars without being able to turn a corner...
:reallyodd
 
grrrr my tiresd keep going red on the gt world championship and I have to pit....the other cars never pit :(

I cant win it!

Edit: I won em from the Championhips...European, American, German...save after the 4th race, reload if you dont get the expensive car of the 4 ;P And I can rape anything on soemthing remotely straight, which helps alot
 
Originally posted by neon_duke

Heh, well. I'm not here to judge you. I'm just wondering how you won all those cars without being able to turn a corner...
:reallyodd
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i was the same way, till i completed the game.

I had tons of race cars. My dad said we're going to have to do the enduro's so why not do them now. So we finished those off early in the game giving us alot of supercars.
 
Originally posted by Shock6822
grrrr my tiresd keep going red on the gt world championship and I have to pit....the other cars never pit :(

I cant win it!

Edit: I won em from the Championhips...European, American, German...save after the 4th race, reload if you dont get the expensive car of the 4 ;P And I can rape anything on soemthing remotely straight, which helps alot
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Well, here's your chance to redeem yourself! Take a slightly-upgraded, modest car like a Miata or an Evo or even the Vitz, and go back and learn how to drive!
:thumbsup:
 
what tires do you guys suggest? I use the most expensive ones, but they seem to wear way too easy, while the cheapest ones seem to handle badly
 
Originally posted by troy
I had tons of race cars. My dad said we're going to have to do the enduro's so why not do them now. So we finished those off early in the game giving us alot of supercars.
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What a classic 'Dad' thing to say!
 
(Warning: This is long-winded.)

Hey Shock, a lot of folks have already made valid points... mainly about the torque-happy Viper being a bad choice for such a confined course like Cote d'Azur. Wheelspin is never helpful, but it's your worst enemy on twisty tracks. I dunno about the advice on buying an RX-7 though, it's not what I'd call ideal for a novice driver. A Silvia K's 2000cc or a Sprinter Trueno might be better, for learning purposes at least.

Anyway, to chip in my advice... use the Free Run mode for practice, and use it often. Complex String is a scary looking piece of asphalt, but it contains just about every kind of corner you'll come up against, so you might want to give that some time first, and then try the other tracks available to you to get familiar with them. After all, the best racing teams will practice and test a lot during and after the season, and since you have no limit to your testing time, it's only smart to take advantage of it.

Another very, very important thing is learning where the brake points are on the track so you can take the corners properly. If you keep an eye on your gear indicator, you'll notice the recommended gear (the little red number) flash when you come up close on a turn... that's the trick. When it starts flashing, you should start braking. It takes a bit of practice, but as you get to know the track and your car you can learn when to get on and off the brakes. Remember, brake, THEN turn. As you get better, you can experiment with "late braking" and see how far you can cut into those zones without screwing up the turn.

As for the tire problem, don't even bother wasting money on the softer ones. They wear out far too quickly, and a soft tire that's red handles far worse than a slick tire that's green. I'd say that medium-slick is a good choice to start with, as it'll help you to learn how to deal with the reduced grip. As time goes on, try working with the slick tires and see if you can adjust to those. The skill you gain from all that practice will benefit you as much as the time you save from having to pit less.

I may be new to GT3, but thankfully a lot of my GT1 and GT2 experience carries over so I actually have an clue about what I'm blathering on here.
 
You might also consider taking a run at Monaco in a VW Lupo Cup car. It is far from fast. However, it is one of lthe best handling FF cars, even fully modded. Practice early braking, and accelerating out of the corners.
Another good course for practice is Midfield. Not because it's hard. It isn't. Its main advantage is the corner markers for distance. Take the Vertigo with Medium tires and run it.
Initially, start braking at about the 100M mark. Get off the brakes as soon as possible. Watch for the white tire smoke. When you see it you've let the car start to slide and you are officially out of control. You want be accelerating and in control coming out of the turns.
Then begin pushing up the point where you brake. 100M, 75M, 50M etc. until you find your perfect braking point.
Also use all the width of the road, including the rumble strips to maintain the car on the road and out of the dirt.
One of the best kept secrets of going fast is to slow down and control the car.
 
Originally posted by Shock6822
what tires do you guys suggest? I use the most expensive ones, but they seem to wear way too easy, while the cheapest ones seem to handle badly
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Well, yeah, that's pretty much the trade off. The cheaper tyre's don't wear as much, but also don't give as much grip. The more expensive tyre's give great grip, but wear out too quickly. Just go for Hard tyre's, and just get used to using them. If you learn to corner smoothly, they are still easy to use, you've just got to get used to them.
 
But save the super softs for online competition. In the hands of a fair driver (me) they are six seconds faster around the Seattle course than the sport tires.
For a good driver they would be even faster.
 
Shock: too follow up on the Miatat Enduro, it's easier than it looks. Yes, there is one AI who simply out runs the rest of the pack. For the first 3 laps. Then it will pit on every third lap. Simply use Super hard tires, and once they warm up they grip wuite well. This will make it so you should have to pit once, maybe twice in the entire 40 laps.

Try it, and give it ten laps before you quit. When I ran it, I was turning laps at about 1'40-1'43.XXX. I was 2 laps up at the end of the race, on everyone but the leader.

On a side note, I'm just under 65% this time through, and have never bought a tire harder than medium-slick. Just have to let them warm up.

The RX-7 may be a bit much. The EVO is a great suggestion.

Keep us posted.

AO
 
a little word on the roadster enduro: my best car is the Miata RS with drivetrain upgrades and the cheapest racing tires. you probably know this but the softer a tire is the more expensive it will be. the + side is better grips but the - is loosing tread quickly. with just the cheapest superslicks and fully upgraded flywheel i have won every time of the 3 times i've done the enduro. i have not been able to lap all the other cars in this race (i think it is impossible) but ended with almost 1 lap ahead of the others. don't worry about the car that seems to be running on nitro from the beginning because it uses the softest tires & therefore pits in every few laps. it also ended up last in every race in this enduro. i normally pitted in above 15 laps i.e. about when these tires start turning orange. i think one set of these tires could last between 20 & 25 laps going on reds but this will definately affect performance. from what i gather this enduro is more about all upgrades except that which deals wiith power.
 
Originally posted by sharmad
the cheapest superslicks and fully upgraded flywheel i have won every time of the 3 times i've done the enduro.
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from what i gather this enduro is more about all upgrades except that which deals wiith power.
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Well, actually, no it's not. The Roadster Enduro requires a STOCK Miata. Oil change and tires are the only allowable upgrades. The Miata is not hard on tires, but I don't think it will go 20 laps, even on super slicks.
 
It takes experience and practice, and a little of natural ability.

I suggest viewing replays of the computer cars driving the tracks, watch their braking points, acceleration points, turn in points, etc

Also, I dont suggest using a super higher powered Dodge Viper to learn how to handle GT3's corners. Its sort of like an amateur pilot climbing into a fighter jet after only 2 flights in a cessna.
 

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