All those with logitech G27 or G25 wheels...

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Do you have these same issues with your wheels?

On any given day my wheel wont work right when playing GT5 or GT6. It will be fine for days but then.........it wont. It always works perfectly when playing any other racing/car game. It's only in GT that these issues happen.

Here are the problems.....

First: I will be racing and the brake will stick on slightly. This usually happens on straits. I can tell not only because I am going too slow but I can actually see that the brake is on when looking at the brake gauge. There will be a little red showing at the bottom indicating the brake is being pushed down slightly. I can pump the brake quick and sometimes it will fix it but by then I've lost a lot of ground and it will happen several more times during the race. Not to mention I spend half my time looking at the brake gauge to see if its sticking and not looking at the road. I have rebooted the system and that does nothing. I checked and cleaned out the inner workings of the G27 and nothing. I even got the new GEYE brake spring (Which is awesome by the way) and that has not helped this issue.

Second: Again, this does not happen all the time. It can be a couple times a month or a couple times a week. When it does happen it will usually happen for the entire day. Ok...... the gas will redline when I take my foot off the gas. So when I brake the gas is still on. This of course pushes the car. But that's not the worst part. The worst is when I shift using the 6 speed. When I put the clutch in the gas bounces off the rev limiter. This means I can't shift. It will not go into gear when the gas is revving. I pump the gas, brake, clutch, nothing really helps. I use the 6 speed for probably 80 % of my racing so this is infuriating.

So I was just wondering if anyone with a G27 or G25 experience these issues? If so, have you found a solution? Please keep in mind that these issues only happen while playing GT5 and GT6. It's fine when using it for any other racing/car game.

Thanks for your time and feedback. :)
 
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The old DFP and DFGT had a known issue with pedals. I thought the pedals were completely redesigned for G25/27.
The solution for the old one was gluing the pots to the casing.
 
I am using a G27 and don't have any problems like that. Which one du you actually have the G25 or G27? You didn't really say in your post.
 
check your bake pedal axis is not loose; or the parts linking it around to the base has no become oval.

there is probably an issue around there ;)

hapened a lot on DFGT sets; and a few heavy duty players i know with g27s.
probably will hapend to the plastic fanatec sets too ;) i assume the CSP sets will be ok though ; i ve been runing them for close to 4 years ( at least since first batch of the time ) and they have not moved a mm. ( changed the wiring on the electronics though.. that sucked big time.


if you drive those thing to much they all end up needing a servicing. if waranty is over; take it a part; look at the junction bits and see if the prob is there or if you have grit on the electronics themselvs.
 
I have a G27 and haven't noticed any problems like you've said. My advice is to make sure the USB port is cleaned out and plugged in all the way... you never know.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I just can't help but think it has to do with GT because I experience none of these issues with other racing/car games.

I will try these ideas and see what happens. If anyone else has any other ideas or info it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again. :)
 
I had the G25 and now have the G27, both worked very well with no flaws.

I have a CH joystick for flying that had a loose potentiometer that prevented full range of the roll axis. I took it apart and tightened the pot and all was well. It hasn't come loose in 2 year since tightening it.
 
SmileyOr
I had the G25 and now have the G27, both worked very well with no flaws.

I have a CH joystick for flying that had a loose potentiometer that prevented full range of the roll axis. I took it apart and tightened the pot and all was well. It hasn't come loose in 2 year since tightening it.
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Yeah I guess I'm just going to have to take it apart again and check everything out.
 
My son just got home from school and reminded me of another issue. In other games when we drive over curbs and things the wheel vibrates and shakes. This does not happen when playing GT 5 or 6. We both remember it happening in GT4 and we did not have the brake issue in GT4.

Anyways, Just thought I would add that bit of info. ;)
 
Just a thought... Could your pots need cleaning? Tuner cleaner works great on pots.
How old is your wheel?
Does it seem to happen more and frequently?
Are the games that it works fine on, on the PC?
 
Raging Bull
Do you have these same issues with your wheels?

On any given day my wheel wont work right when playing GT5 or GT6. It will be fine for days but then.........it wont. It always works perfectly when playing any other racing/car game. It's only in GT that these issues happen.

Here are the problems.....

First: I will be racing and the brake will stick on slightly. This usually happens on straits. I can tell not only because I am going too slow but I can actually see that the brake is on when looking at the brake gauge. There will be a little red showing at the bottom indicating the brake is being pushed down slightly. I can pump the brake quick and sometimes it will fix it but by then I've lost a lot of ground and it will happen several more times during the race. Not to mention I spend half my time looking at the brake gauge to see if its sticking and not looking at the road. I have rebooted the system and that does nothing. I checked and cleaned out the inner workings of the G27 and nothing. I even got the new GEYE brake spring (Which is awesome by the way) and that has not helped this issue.

Second: Again, this does not happen all the time. It can be a couple times a month or a couple times a week. When it does happen it will usually happen for the entire day. Ok...... the gas will redline when I take my foot off the gas. So when I brake the gas is still on. This of course pushes the car. But that's not the worst part. The worst is when I shift using the 6 speed. When I put the clutch in the gas bounces off the rev limiter. This means I can't shift. It will not go into gear when the gas is revving. I pump the gas, brake, clutch, nothing really helps. I use the 6 speed for probably 80 % of my racing so this is infuriating.

So I was just wondering if anyone with a G27 or G25 experience these issues? If so, have you found a solution? Please keep in mind that these issues only happen while playing GT5 and GT6. It's fine when using it for any other racing/car game.

Thanks for your time and feedback. :)
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I have a G27 and have not noticed any problems and to your second part of the question about that gas will redline when I take my foot off the gas that is normal to do that and it also does it with a DS3. And also you may notice the engine sound when you take your foot off the gas pedal for a few seconds again it happens with a DS3 also so there is nothing wrong with your G27.
 
GrumpEone
Just a thought... Could your pots need cleaning? Tuner cleaner works great on pots.
How old is your wheel?
Does it seem to happen more and frequently?
Are the games that it works fine on, on the PC?
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I think we have had it over four years. We used it on GT4 before GT5 came out.

Not sure what "Pots" are.

I don't think it is happening more frequently.

All games are on PlayStation 3.

Thanks. :)
 
hall90
I have a G27 and have not noticed any problems and to your second part of the question about that gas will redline when I take my foot off the gas that is normal to do that and it also does it with a DS3. And also you may notice the engine sound when you take your foot off the gas pedal for a few seconds again it happens with a DS3 also so there is nothing wrong with your G27.
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Well it doesn't just do it for a second. It does it four many seconds. So much so we can't shift and when I brake it pushes the cars even though my foot has been off the gas for several seconds.

It does this once in a while. But when it does do either one or the other (Gas or brake issue) it will almost always do it for the entire day.
 
Raging Bull
Well it doesn't just do it for a second. It does it four many seconds. So much so we can't shift and when I brake it pushes the cars even though my foot has been off the gas for several seconds.

It does this once in a while. But when it does do either one or the other (Gas or brake issue) it will almost always do it for the entire day.[/quote
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The game is the problem.
 
Raging Bull
Do you have these same issues with your wheels?

On any given day my wheel wont work right when playing GT5 or GT6. It will be fine for days but then.........it wont. It always works perfectly when playing any other racing/car game. It's only in GT that these issues happen.

Here are the problems.....

First: I will be racing and the brake will stick on slightly. This usually happens on straits. I can tell not only because I am going too slow but I can actually see that the brake is on when looking at the brake gauge. There will be a little red showing at the bottom indicating the brake is being pushed down slightly. I can pump the brake quick and sometimes it will fix it but by then I've lost a lot of ground and it will happen several more times during the race. Not to mention I spend half my time looking at the brake gauge to see if its sticking and not looking at the road. I have rebooted the system and that does nothing. I checked and cleaned out the inner workings of the G27 and nothing. I even got the new GEYE brake spring (Which is awesome by the way) and that has not helped this issue.

Second: Again, this does not happen all the time. It can be a couple times a month or a couple times a week. When it does happen it will usually happen for the entire day. Ok...... the gas will redline when I take my foot off the gas. So when I brake the gas is still on. This of course pushes the car. But that's not the worst part. The worst is when I shift using the 6 speed. When I put the clutch in the gas bounces off the rev limiter. This means I can't shift. It will not go into gear when the gas is revving. I pump the gas, brake, clutch, nothing really helps. I use the 6 speed for probably 80 % of my racing so this is infuriating.

So I was just wondering if anyone with a G27 or G25 experience these issues? If so, have you found a solution? Please keep in mind that these issues only happen while playing GT5 and GT6. It's fine when using it for any other racing/car game.

Thanks for your time and feedback. :)
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Take off the pedal plugs and plug it back in, worked on my DFP...
 
hall90
The game is the problem.
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Possibly but unlikely, since many others are not having the same issues, with the same hardware and software.



Convergent
Take off the pedal plugs and plug it back in, worked on my DFP...
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Also a possible issue, I'd definitely try that before tearing apart the pedals to get to the pots.




Raging Bull
I think we have had it over four years. We used it on GT4 before GT5 came out.

Not sure what "Pots" are.

I don't think it is happening more frequently.

All games are on PlayStation 3.

Thanks. :)
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'Pots' are short for Potentiometers or Variable resistors. 4 Years of use would lead me to believe this may be the issue, specially if you have pets, smokers around, or are in a dusty environment. The link included is a very thorough guide on cleaning them correctly, rather than the quick way of dousing the pot in contact cleaner and waiting for the cleaner to evaporate fully (which is how I have cleaned my guitar's pots for years).


Checkout this link:
Spiking Pedals Fix/Cleaning Pots.
 
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Thanks everyone. I will try the easiest solutions first. Though I have a feeling the "POTS" are probably the issue from reading what GrumpEone linked.

Thanks again. :)
 
GrumpEone
'Pots' are short for Potentiometers or Variable resistors. 4 Years of use would lead me to believe this may be the issue, specially if you have pets, smokers around, or are in a dusty environment. The link included is a very thorough guide on cleaning them correctly, rather than the quick way of dousing the pot in contact cleaner and waiting for the cleaner to evaporate fully (which is how I have cleaned my guitar's pots for years).


Checkout this link:
Spiking Pedals Fix/Cleaning Pots.
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I had the same issue with my brake sticking slightly "on" sometimes. I did what GrumpEone and some others have suggested...I disassembled until I got to the pots, and sprayed them with some tuner cleaner from Radio Shack. Make sure you use "tuner cleaner". It cleans electric contacts and leaves behind a slight lubricant. I just read thru the link that GrumpEone posted. I wouldn't recommend that procedure, there's too much possibility of breaking something. Just spray the pots in place, really soak them, and while still wet, work them back and forth about a dozen times. Some of the cleaner will get inside the pots and clean the contacts. Then, let them just sit until the spray is completely evaporated. Remember the spray cleaner that got inside the pots will take a while longer to dry. I would guess a couple hours before re-assemble. I did mine a couple years ago and it's been working fine since (G25 about 5 years old with almost daily use).
 
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@Raging Bull - I had the same issue with my G25's brake pedal. I just swapped the brake pot with the clutch pot & the problem was solved. I think the reason you don't get it with other race games is that they all have somekind of dead zone before the pedal activates, whereas GT seems to have none (except for the clutch) so that when your pot begins to go it shows up instantly. Can't help you with the throttle problem though, but would suggest buying a new pot for it.

You might find the following site helpful: www.thesimshop.com
 
What about the shifter? Are there any in there or just the pedals? Just want to make sure.

Thanks!
 
Chrunch Houston
Just the pedals. The wheel has an optical sensor much like an old mouse, the kind with a rolling ball.
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rolling ball ? you mean the first gen before 1998 ? with the ball underneath ? those where not optical; modern mice are. if the term track ball mouse does mean something it comes from that.
 
1Lambofan
What about the shifter? Are there any in there or just the pedals? Just want to make sure.

Thanks!
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normally its a potentiometer but a lot better protected i wouldnt open it up if not an issue.


but GT5 and 6 had a mjor issue with clutch control ; it sucks big time .


ie ; if you have youre foot full on throttle and change gear with clutch you will never ever get it in .... ( beleive me i stay on gas in the E30 when up shifting it DOES NOT have the time to rev more than i want ... and it a 300hp motor.

if you have the foot en brakes past 80% your screwed to ; you cant down shift. test ; retest.... never stoped me IRL .


now want the WORST OF ALL ? my E36 M3 SMG2 shifts 2 or 3 times faster than the shifts in gt6.... and im not even going to go on the ferrari side of that discussion ;)


the gear system has and allways will be an issue , let alone having half the pedal in dead zone before it hits a fake clutch ... thats an another issue , the clutch is barelly controlable compared to a real one ;) done blame your self or your tools; its probably the software ;)
 
I had this in my g27 and i switched the clutch for brake springs, presto, problem solved... Fyi, I don't use the clutch pedal, to create better spacing between them. I use brake nothing and gas
 
Greg330im
rolling ball ? you mean the first gen before 1998 ? with the ball underneath ? those where not optical; modern mice are. if the term track ball mouse does mean something it comes from that.
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The the rolling ball caused a disk to rotate. The disc had slots in it and an optical sensor counted the slots that passed through it as the disk rotated.
mouse04.jpg

A typical arrangement of LEDs and sensors inside a ball mouse
 
You have dirty potentiometers in your pedals. Clean them with compressed air or electronic contact cleaner spray. You don't have to clean them as thouroughly as in link provided by GrumpEone. If pedals are working in dusty environment (eg. under a desk, near computer, like mine), they are likely to get dirty often, so it's good to clean them every 6 months or so.

I've had this issue with DFGT before, now I have it with G27, it's nothing serious. But it can be annoying at times. Although G27 seem to get dirty pots slower, in DFGT I saw slight spiking only after 2-3 months.
 

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