Almost had the crap beaten into me...

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Okay, so I am in a bar and as I'm leaving with my mate he asks a random person (who happens to be a girl) for a light for his ciggie. As soon as he asks, a big (300lb) guy starts on my mate saying "What the ... do you think you're doing?!" and spouts off about the girl being his mate's etc.

He comes at my mate, still giving it the mouth and I put my arm between him and my buddy, saying "Mate, just go." (To my friend) and "Don't bother, just forget about it." to the big man. At this point, he starts giving some verbal, so I retaliate with some instigatory comments of myself (mainly concentrating on the fact that he's not such a thin chap) Okay, so I know I should have left it, but if some idiot starts on my mate for no reason then I'm not going to let it lie in a hurry.

At the end of it all and after outrunning the guy (okay, so maybe I'm a coward) my mate says that I'm in the wrong and the guilty party in the whole thing. He says that he could have handled himself and talked him down, but that was in no way a guarantee, and I only tried to prevent anything from even starting.

I've always been told to back down from a fight if possible (hence the cowardly running away), but I'm apparantly the guilty pary here. My friend is an ex-boxer and pretty handy. Even so, I tried to get between the guy and my friend to prevent it coming to blows. Now, apparantly I'm the guilty party.

Am I really to blame? What would you have done in this situation?
 
No, you're not to blame. The "big" guy probably over-reacted just a tad. There's no need to dwell on it though. What happens at the bar tends to stay at the bar. Alcohol does strange things to people.
 
You're right. That's what my mate said and we had a bloody good night in the end.
 
Just one of those things and you are certainly not in the wrong here.

I would not worry about it too much, as has been said booze and some people just don't mix.


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You shouldn't have insulted him about his weight. Not the best thing to do to a complete stranger who's looking for a fight. If you hadn't insulted him I'd have said you were perfectly in the right. Stepping in to try to cool down the situation was probably the right thing to do, better not to have the fight in the first place than for your mate to possible box the guy to the ground, no doubt doing a fair bit of damage if he's been properly trained.
 
You should've or your friend should've just started laughing to get him even more mad. Just start doing sarcastic laughs and laugh your booty off. It works for me every time I was at school or something or even just hanging with my buddies. When he or some one else starts hitting you, hit them in the chest, face or kick them in the knee / shins :D

kthxbye.
 
When your friend said you were wrong, was he still drunk, or was it before he cooled down a bit? His emotions were probably still high at the time and he just wanted to fight.

You did the right thing though, and I hope your friend realizes this.
 
I'll tell you what, I'd rather have the crap beaten OUT of me than IN to me any day. You dodged a bullet there.
 
Go watch Bas Rutten's bar-fighting video.

Never insult someone when they're arguing with you. Anger is the usual spark for an argument. Don't add fuel to the spark. You'll get a huge fire. Next time, just say sorry and jet.

Of course, you realize that if your friend wasn't addicted to tobacco you could've avoided the whole episode, right?
 
I was in the same situation in 8th grade once. And all i got was a punch in the noise which pissed me off. Then all I basically did was punch him once he was on the ground. But I am a bigger guy then he was... But now he constinatly trys and pics fights me. Like if he sees me in the halls he likes to try and act badass and bump me, but usually ends up hearting his shoulders :lol:

I would of done the same thing if I were you. Fights arn't fun. But usually when I go to places that arn't very secure, I usually have a small pocket knife, or switch blade. But I would probally never hit some buddy with it. Never, unless he was threating me. But seriously, I hate caring them around, it's annouing cause you know you have somthing you can be charged against. I also have a close friend that used to get harrassed alot. Hey got a knife, and now they don't mess with him no more. And if you don't belive me, I could get a picture of my knife. But i'm not going to post it here.

But you did nothing wrong of the sort, and running is not coward. And if they bother y ou about it, tell them to $%&# off.
 
It doesn't matter what you did to him, you won if nothing happened to you. Your not a coward if you run away, a black belt in my karate school did that when 5 people were walking tward her. She ran. Don't always try to take somebody on, you don't have to beat the crud out of someone to say that you won in a fight (if you could call it that).
 
Don't throw the first punch. Only fight if you have just cause. The minute the guy lays a finger on you, rip him a new one.
 
Don't throw the first punch. Only fight if you have just cause. The minute the guy lays a finger on you, rip him a new one.

Yes we should all follow the kid's advice, forget the term appropriate force.

What's done has been done move on. Next time your friend gets into trouble and wants to continue fighting, let him.

Learning the hard way is the best way.
 
You shouldn't have insulted him about his weight. Not the best thing to do to a complete stranger who's looking for a fight. If you hadn't insulted him I'd have said you were perfectly in the right. Stepping in to try to cool down the situation was probably the right thing to do, better not to have the fight in the first place than for your mate to possible box the guy to the ground, no doubt doing a fair bit of damage if he's been properly trained.
good advice lol:tup:
"I'm sorry.... bang bam bang. no i'm not"
" you insult my girlfriend? i'm sorry but i have to break your knee"


seriously tho... you could have done a better job to diffuse the situation. The fact that you feel guilty enough to write in such a way shows you are aware of this.
 
:lol: Sorry but....tell your mate to NOT ask for a light from the prettiest lady in the bar that has a 300lb gorilla attached to her arm. I mean honestly.... :lol:
 
:lol: Sorry but....tell your mate to NOT ask for a light from the prettiest lady in the bar that has a 300lb gorilla attached to her arm. I mean honestly.... :lol:

indeed...Maybe it's a good thing he's an ex-boxer.
 
Your mate is probably just mad you didn't boost his ego by saying such things as...

"I should warn you, my mates an ex boxer... a good one aswell."
"Look I don't want to see you humiliated infront of a crowd by my mate who's an ex-boxer"
Or maybe
"Yo Bruda, my Homie here got two guns on his shoulders, and he gonna fly like butterfly, sting like a bee all over your ass."
 
"Yo Bruda, my Homie here got two guns on his shoulders, and he gonna fly like butterfly, sting like a bee all over your ass."

You know what actually be a lol if it really happened, because the big guy would just crack up.
 
Sometimes it's better to run, I remember being with a mate walking in town, it was late and we were taking a shortcut to the bus station, we happend to come across a group of lads who were trying to break into a car. We were just going to keep walking but one of them tried to start trouble, he just walked upto to my mate and headbutted him. Me being me at that time I wasn't having any of it, I told him what I thought of him and what I was ready to do to him. The next thing I know, there's four other guys walking over to us with screwdrivers and knives in their hands. My mate just yelled "run" and grabbed me and they chased us to the end of the road then gave up. I have no doubt in my mind that at least one of thoes guys would have been ready to stab us if they got us, and for what, because we were walking down the same road as them. This happened back in 2000.

I'm a lot more careful in what I say when someone is being agressive, it's a hard thing to get right, that night when my friend got headbutted the guy turned to walk away, then I got mouthy. It leaves you in a connundrum, I mean you can't just stand and watch someone headbutt your mate, but at the same time is doing something about it worth getting kicked in or stabbed for. I've learnt a lot about how to deal with people who are agressive like that fom dealing with my brother, there was a time when me and him would always fight, I mean properly fight. It must have been horrible for our parents when we were living at home, just cleaning up the blood, we still argue and he still tries to face up to me sometimes, but I don't push the buttons that make him explode.
 
Easy to laugh when they got the curb stomp ;)

Heh, crushed skull hey?
I guess you've tried this ultra-deadly move on someone before?
Cause I've seen one and they ain't good.
 
Thoes are nasty, I don't know how anyone could be so evil to do that to someone.
 
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