(Almost) Realistic Le Mans experience

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Late one night last week, I couldn't sleep, so I turned on the PS2 and decided to race at Le Mans.

I went into the Arcade mode, with the options on a 50 lap race, with a time penalty for contact and mild tire wear (the tire wear in GT4 has to be the most unrealistic aspect). I then went to Le Sarthe I, chose my BMW V12 LMR and set the competition to RSH/RSH and the AI competitiveness at level 6. This gave me a field of two Pescarolos, one Audi, one Bentley and (unfortunately) the Nissan R89C. Almost perfect, except for that one Group C car.

Under the quick tune-up part, I turned the car's HP all the way down to -20% or 623 HP and the weight at 900 kg. This is approximately what the cars have in real life.

Once the race started, I couldn't believe how close to real it was. Since the opposition had 250-300 more horses than I did, passing was very difficult and it was a chore just to stay in their draft on the Mulsanne straight. Lap times were in the 3:30 to 3:31 range, very close to what they turn in real life. Pit stops took place every 10 laps, almost as many laps as the real cars do between stops. I ended up having to pit for fuel before the tires wore out (thanks to the mild tire wear setting).

The 50 laps went by in just under three hours. The racing was entertaining as I had to come from behind several times after screwing up. I had to drive at about 9.5/10 the entire race just to stay with the Nissan. In the end, I was set to pass him after he made his final stop, but on the lap he pitted, I put a wheel off at the Porsche Curves and clouted the wall, so I ended up 2nd, approximately 19 seconds back.

So if any Le Mans freaks like me want a more realistic LM experience, I suggest you give this a try.

Thanks for your time.
 
that's cool, but, without 50 cars on track with classes or day to night to day with weather effects well ... :(
 
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that's cool, but, without 50 cars on track with classes or day to night to day with weather effects well ... :(
ya it wouldve been cool if endurance races went from day to light and back to day
 
Grab a copy of 24 Le Mans if you can find it. Sure the graphics seem poor these days but big grids, day->dusk->night->dawn->day, changing weather, weather forecast, great pit crew, opition to condense race to eg 4 hours where the clock just goes 6 times faster but you still get day/night and weather.

I did the 24hr race in real time to complete the game and the early evening and early morning periods felt so real, eg each time you went down the Mulsanne straight you would notice the moon's position changing and slowly disappearing.

I liked that game, very cool.

Steven
 
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Grab a copy of 24 Le Mans if you can find it. Sure the graphics seem poor these days but big grids, day->dusk->night->dawn->day, changing weather, weather forecast, great pit crew, opition to condense race to eg 4 hours where the clock just goes 6 times faster but you still get day/night and weather.

I did the 24hr race in real time to complete the game and the early evening and early morning periods felt so real, eg each time you went down the Mulsanne straight you would notice the moon's position changing and slowly disappearing.

I liked that game, very cool.

Steven


The only problem with that game is that it does not support the use of a wheel! :(
Otherwise...you're right..it's a sweet arse game...minus the graphics of course! :D
 
Yeah, no dusk-night-dawn, back to day, and only six cars (one of which was a Group C car). But hopefully GT5, GT Vision, GT-whatever they call it will have changing atmosphere and more cars.

I'm just saying the race was about as realistic as GT4 could make it. That why I had the "(Almost)" before the "Realistic Le Mans experience." It was a lot of fun for a stressful three-hour race.
 
OUTSTANDING Job Mulsanne!!! :cheers: Along with several others...I've figured that the "New" Arcade section is the "Hidden Gem" of GT4...BUT you're the first to "Adjust" a Real Race at one of my favorite venues! 👍 I'll definitely give your race idea a shot!...O.G.
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Arcade mode in GT4, actually make more sense that GT Mode. I mean they allow you to set you car to it's RL Hp setting, in GT Mode you can't trim that extra 100+hp off, thereby making your car an overpowered beast. I've done 3 lap race on the Nür with the CLK-GTR powered down to about 708hp and weight down to 900, arcade setting on 5 or 6, 200 A-Spec point race, on R3's. Not an easy race to win since the 787B starts in second position, you play catch up and basically have to drive like Stephan Bellof to beat him. A lot more fun that GT mode, wish PD allowed you to trim vehicle hp to real world number for the races. Good Find Mulsanne.
 
O.K...Decided to do a 20 Lap "Test" of the format but didn't look close enough at Mulsanne's specs. Got a field w/4 GrpCs :scared: foremost of which was the TOYOTA 88C-V Race Car (MINOLTA) '89. He just ran off & hid form me & everyone else. (I was using the Bentley Speed 8 Race Car '03 w/3 more HP than the BMW's) Had a GREAT Battle for third w/the Sauber & one of the Nissans.

Has anyone else noticed how INSANELY FAST the "AI" is between T-4 & T-6! :eek: (Minus their HORRIBLE performance @ Indianapolis of course! :irked: ) They just come outta nowhere & rear end you like crazy! :trouble:

Anyhow...was second (barely) at the end of 20 Laps & 40+ seconds behind the Big Toyota...I "might" be able to catch him by the end of 50 Laps ONLY because he would pit TWO more times.

SO I tried a 10 Lap test Just to see the difference 2 little "Tweaks" would make. Bumped the top speed up a notch & changed to RH Tyres. Came out after pitting at the end of 10 Laps 7.5xx ahead of the Toyota & watched that dwindle to about 3 seconds by the end of Lap 11. "UNrealistic" Lap times (3'27.xxx/best) but probably the only way I can beat this particular field. Interesting "Factoid"...the fuel consumption remained the same even though I ran 10 Laps about 50 seconds quicker! :confused:

THANX Mulsanne👍...I'm sure I'll be spending lots of time on this one!...O.G.
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No problem. Glad to be of assistance.

Yeah, the "real driving simulator" has cars with 200+ horsepower than they have in real life. And you can't dial down the HP in Gran Turismo mode. (Which would make the Le Sarthe I 24Hr. a real dogfight with a 600hp car...)

Another thing I wish PD would do for GT5 is allow you to choose your opposition. Replacing that Nissan Group C car with another LMP car, or having a couple of GT cars in there for traffic would have made the race even more enjoyable.

Have fun guys.
 
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