American Muscle Cars at 24 Heures du Mans, World Touring Car 700

Nader_ws6 · Feb 26, 2023

This is my first post here at GT planet..
I'm a American muscle fan as long as i can remember, heck i had a few myself, but in Gran Turismo they were always pain in the ass especially old ones, i just couldn't get them to turn well,
after many tries and also read alot of stuff and copy alot of tunes from internet, i get hang of it little bit,
so i thought to share it here, i think there are alot of others like me would love to see their old american muscle actully win some races
Also put a video of WTC700, made a few mistakes but stil made it first place

Time : 32:38
Fastest lap: 4:27

OldandSlow · Mar 1, 2023

You may be interested in this: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/touring-car-masters-1963-1978.411037/

05XR8 put this excellent group together.

Nader_ws6 · Mar 1, 2023

OldandSlow
You may be interested in this: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/touring-car-masters-1963-1978.411037/

05XR8 put this excellent group together.

Thank you, following

Live25 · Mar 2, 2023

Can you share more details on your tune? Aero parts and engine/chassis upgrades for instance.

Nader_ws6 · Mar 2, 2023

Live25
Can you share more details on your tune? Aero parts and engine/chassis upgrades for instance.

Yes sir,
Hemi 426 Challenger engine
Got all upgrades: engine, exhaust, suspension, brakes and high-end supercharger, tried to mess with weight and power to get it at 700pp
Weight reduction stage 3
Increase body rigidity
Wide wheels and wide tires, No widebody
Type A front spliter and rear wing at max downforce
4.0 Rearend ratio
1st 1.969
2nd 1.249
3rd 0.907
4th 0.696
5th 0.569
nothing fancy, still trying to find LSD sweet spot for turns, recently changed from dual shock controller to TM 248, BIG help!

Live25 · Mar 2, 2023

Nader_ws6
Yes sir,
Hemi 426 Challenger engine
Got all upgrades: engine, exhaust, suspension, brakes and high-end supercharger, tried to mess with weight and power to get it at 700pp
Weight reduction stage 3
Increase body rigidity
Wide wheels and wide tires, No widebody
Type A front spliter and rear wing at max downforce
4.0 Rearend ratio
1st 1.969
2nd 1.249
3rd 0.907
4th 0.696
5th 0.569
nothing fancy, still trying to find LSD sweet spot for turns, recently changed from dual shock controller to TM 248, BIG help!

Thanks man, I'll give her a run tomorrow!

Nader_ws6 · Mar 4, 2023

So i change name of topic and going to have some fun
and try more big ol' american muscle cars in 24h le mans WTC 700,
gonna share tune and videos, suggestions or tune tweaks are certainly welcome

This one is definitely cleanest run i ever had with classic muscle cars,
luckly had not much rain, but still was very gentle with throttle when exiting corners

Time : 32:16
Fastest Lap : 4:18

Darrenersmit · Mar 8, 2023

Ooo, I'll get involved with this. Just started messing with the muscle cars lately.

Nader_ws6 · Mar 8, 2023

Darrenersmit
Ooo, I'll get involved with this. Just started messing with the muscle cars lately.

helllllll yeah brother! welcome

Darrenersmit · Mar 8, 2023

Nader_ws6
helllllll yeah brother! welcome

had a quick go and tinker with the custom eckerts yesterday, quick tinker with the boss tonight.
Straight out shootout tommorow to see who comes out on top over the race.

OldandSlow · Mar 9, 2023

The Eckert's drives great, it's the gas mileage that's an issue at Lemans. Fine for custom races, though.

The Boss is a killer car.

Darrenersmit · Mar 9, 2023

OldandSlow
The Eckert's drives great, it's the gas mileage that's an issue at Lemans. Fine for custom races, though.

The Boss is a killer car.

Both seemed around the same for fuel 2.5 laps roughly, eckerts definitely drives better. I'm predicting it will be a clear winner.

OldandSlow · Mar 9, 2023

Darrenersmit
Both seemed around the same for fuel 2.5 laps roughly, eckerts definitely drives better. I'm predicting it will be a clear winner.

I'll have to run mine again, I couldn't get 2 laps out of the Eckert. The Boss, no problem there.

Nader_ws6 · Mar 9, 2023

OldandSlow
I'll have to run mine again, I couldn't get 2 laps out of the Eckert. The Boss, no problem there.

I havn't run these two, but with most chevys and mopars I could get 3laps on lean mode and some short shifting,
That pro touring 1970 rampage camaro is also horrible had to short shift from 1st lap to make it through 3laps

Nader_ws6 · Mar 9, 2023

Here another run I made with 1970 Dodge super bee
And just to make it more fun this one is with Dual shock controller, was easier than I thought,
Real fun begin at lap 3 (10:00) when rain start and still had RH tires on

Time : 30:23 (6Laps)
Fastest Lap : 4:30

Darrenersmit · Mar 9, 2023

OldandSlow
I'll have to run mine again, I couldn't get 2 laps out of the Eckert. The Boss, no problem there.

You got the super charger on? Presuming that will drink alot of fuel. And having the standard short gear ratios will too.

Darrenersmit · Mar 9, 2023

Fastest lap in the eckerts 4:23.
FM3 gave 2.5 laps(ish)
Final position was 3rd
Total time 31:21

Fastest lap in the Boss 4:28
Fm3 gave 2.5 laps(ish)
Final position was 17th
Total time was 34:something
Absolutely pelted it down with rain lap 5 so was totally unfair. Winner goes to the boss in my eyes would of one the race had it not been for the rain.

Mu gear set up was awful on the Boss too, could of gone much faster

Nader_ws6 · Mar 9, 2023

Darrenersmit
Fastest lap in the eckerts 4:23.
FM3 gave 2.5 laps(ish)
Final position was 3rd
Total time 31:21

Fastest lap in the Boss 4:28
Fm3 gave 2.5 laps(ish)
Final position was 17th
Total time was 34:something
Absolutely pelted it down with rain lap 5 so was totally unfair. Winner goes to the boss in my eyes would of one the race had it not been for the rain.

Mu gear set up was awful on the Boss too, could of gone much faster

I like the boss better anyway,eckerts dosn't looks right to me
add me if you like maybe can race somtime
psn: Nader_gmr

OldandSlow · Mar 12, 2023

Darrenersmit
You got the super charger on? Presuming that will drink alot of fuel. And having the standard short gear ratios will too.

Darrenersmit
Fastest lap in the eckerts 4:23.
FM3 gave 2.5 laps(ish)
Final position was 3rd
Total time 31:21

Fastest lap in the Boss 4:28
Fm3 gave 2.5 laps(ish)
Final position was 17th
Total time was 34:something
Absolutely pelted it down with rain lap 5 so was totally unfair. Winner goes to the boss in my eyes would of one the race had it not been for the rain.

Mu gear set up was awful on the Boss too, could of gone much faster

I maxed out the Eckerts, so it drank fuel.

I used Praiano’s tunes for both. The Boss tune is perfect.

Darrenersmit · Mar 12, 2023

I prefer to learn the tuning side of things myself. Rather than just copy and paste someone else's work. Learn from my own errors and try again.

bigmull · Apr 23, 2023

I have just added a tune for the Shelby Cobra,it may not be the final tune as I may change the body and redo the body mods so I can remove the added 62kgs to bring it below 700pp.

Nader_ws6 · Apr 23, 2023

bigmull
I have just added a tune for the Shelby Cobra,it may not be the final tune as I may change the body and redo the body mods so I can remove the added 62kgs to bring it below 700pp.

havn't try that car, let us know how it goes.. 👍

bigmull · Jun 10, 2023

Nader_ws6
Here another run I made with 1970 Dodge super bee
And just to make it more fun this one is with Dual shock controller, was easier than I thought,
Real fun begin at lap 3 (10:00) when rain start and still had RH tires on

Time : 30:23 (6Laps)
Fastest Lap : 4:30

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I just added my tune for this car,you might want to try it, it is a lot more stable and wins the 700 pp Le Mans easily,it’s in The Doc’s Classic Car Tunes Emporium. I removed the rear Spoiler and Front Splitter with no apparent loss of handling.