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So on the new OPM disc, they said there would be a "GT4 Trailer" on it for the "Track GT4" segment they do. So naturally, I got all excited, thinking I'd be able to watch the awesome E3 trailer with Nürburgring and all that on my big ol' TV.

But as it turns out, it's the BASTARDIZED AMERICAN VERSION, taylored for the MINISCULE ATTENTION SPANS of the AMERICAN PUBLIC!!!! This new "trailer" is practically all footage from the Prologue intro, and the music is some lame-ass guitar ripping. I hate the video, I'm never watching it again.

See, apparently, American's aren't interested in anything that isn't fast-paced and action packed, so Polyphony decided that they need to treat us like ADD sufferers. And that's the same reason they won't give us Prologue. Sometimes I wish I lived in Europe.

Has anyone else seen this trailer? What do you think of it?
 
who cares, just wait for the game to come out, then u will see it
 
I care, because this just drives home the fact that Polyphony refuses to treat its american audience with any sort of respect.
 
then move to japan, and how are they not showing respect to u??
they wont make a replay just cause u requested it lol....
 
Doesnt matter as long as they give you (US) GT4
 
What a surprising stereotype for a country that champions Oprah and Jerry Springer.
 
What a surprising stereotype for a country that champions Oprah and Jerry Springer.


Whats wrong with Oprah?
 
What a surprising stereotype for a country that champions Oprah and Jerry Springer.
 
You know I couldn't quite decide how to respond to this question so I decided to do the sensible thing - go and read more about what I'm talking about. So I went to Google and searched for Oprah, and indeed could have saved the internet two queries by simply typing www.oprah.com instead. I'm presented with the standard glamourous home page with the bold title "Oprah.com is your leading source for information about love, life, self, relationships, food, home, spirit and health." Doesn't that strike you as pretentious? That someone can just claim to be the source of all this wonderful information? She may draw on professionals and collate numerous different sources but it doesn't instantly make her an authority. Perhaps I'm being harsh and she's just the frontperson for a large collective of individuals attempting to make a positive contribution to humanity. Maybe she should give them some credit then.

So I looked beyond the title to the main chunk of the site. I'm presented with a story about the Olsen twins - I'm sure that'll make for some inciteful and philosophical reading right? It'll have their respective opinions on Zen Buddhism, the Iraq fiasco, maybe their thoughts on OPEC? But then I notice the abstract describes the story as being "Boys, clothes, money—take an inside look into the lives of Mary-Kate and Ashley!" Can you spell superficial? We're meant to care?

Just above that we have a special feature, "Get in shape...". Sounds promising, trying to promote self improvement and facillitating people's ability to do so? Until you read the next line " ...in style! Colorful fleece sweatshirts, a pink terry jog set, t-shirts and more, all in the Oprah Boutique. Shop now to benefit the Angel Network." Look! It's another shameless corporate plug, with superficiality thrown in for good measure! Where do I sign up? The Angel Network? Now they're holier than me too? Here comes that P word again - pretentious.

By now I'm quietly chuckling to myself and wondering what other magic is in store for me. So I click the menu link for the show itself. There's the Olsen story, which I've already covered. Below, we have another story about Paris and Nicky Hilton (I personally thought it was Nicole Ritchey - sp? - but whatever), no doubt another probing expose. Anything else of note? "Meet these brave and bold women" Feminism with your meal anyone?

Perhaps my favourite feature is the forum quote at the bottom of each page - I really delighted in hearing 'soccergrl5's opinion on the Olsen twins. I'll give her this, she said something far more meaningful and well-worded than anything else on the site.

The Spirit and Self section is utter bull**** ripped straight from any number of feel good books every written, with a healthy dose of spiritualist hippy crap. And before anyone tells me I don't know what I'm talking about I dated a spiritualist for a while, I've heard all about meditation, channeling, readings, auras, natal charts and so on. I also really don't care. If this sort of stuff has any positive impact on your life, congratulations, that's great. It doesn't for me so I don't care. It's pretty simple. Features like "Life-Changing Questions" are redundant - apart from the fact most people should simply know most of the crap in there, why do you have to take risks? Who says you have to do anything? I'll tell you who - you, if you're in any control of your life whatsoever. Otherwise, you're just an insecure puppet. "When Life Seems Unfair" - there's a great topic. Seems? Life IS unfair. Get used to it. Stop dreaming of an idealistic paradise and accept that whatever happens happens and make the best of it. We also have the standard promotional "Beauty from the Inside Out", advocating that inner beauty will overcome sheer physical ugliness. Bzzt.

Oprah is another person who attempts to take the living out of life by making light of people's problems and trying to advise others on what they should do. That's all very well and good but we're dealing with people who are generally mindless enough to take whatever is presented on these shows as gospel instead of weighing up the actual facts and making an informed decision for themselves. In effect, they allow their lives to be dictated to them instead of simply living, which I object too quite vehemently.

These shows make heroes and villains out of everyday people for no real reason except to bolster ratings. How many times have we seen "Troubled Teens" be trotted out for us all to marvel at? We're supposed to be surprised by another gothic, or a slut? Who cares? It's mindless garbage. The more we parade these people the more other people behave like them. We wind up with systemic problems in society. Every teenager faces issues - it's just an inherent part of growing up. If people spent more time living life and less time watching crap on Oprah the world would be a better place and I'd have to deal with less people asking about AI, fuel consumption and online play.

So there's my considerably long 2 cents. You want to post about how Oprah makes a positive impact on people's lives and genuinely helps people deal with reality? Go nuts. I believe if you feel your life was genuinely turned around by a talk show host out to make money, you're either really naive, really oblivious or really sad.
 
👍 I guess youre right I just never cared about Oprah to think if what she does is right or wrong. The hell with her and Dr. Phill
 
I don't think I can express how surprised and proud I am to have actually made a difference with that post...

Cheers Greyout.
 
So because the US produced Oprah and Jerry Springer they deserve crappy Gran Turismo support?

I'm not making the connection here...
 
L1ama
then move to japan, and how are they not showing respect to u??
they wont make a replay just cause u requested it lol....
Like I said, sometimes I want to move to Europe (not Japan, Japan doesn't suit my style so much).

Isn't it fairly obvious how they show us no respect? They don't give us any GT Concept, they don't give us Prologue, and now they think they can get away with making a special extra crappy trailer especially for us. I'm not asking them to make a replay; the trailer I liked was ALREADY MADE, is it really too much to ask for them to use that one? EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD GETS BETTER GT SUPPORT THAN THE US & CANADA!
 
To be fair, the trailer may have been put together by OPM themselves, and not by PD at all.
 
And i thought this was a thread about AirStreams!
 
Eagle
What a surprising stereotype for a country that champions Oprah and Jerry Springer.

I don't recall anyone coming to Oprah or Jerry and asking them how to run the Country. Their shows are for entertainment purposes, as are the majority of things televised. I certainly hope you don't view all television programs as accurate, valid representations of a country. Mr. Bean anyone? Where's your Prime Minister Benny Hill? C'mon people....
 
This is proof that, yet again, the best posts in the Gran Turismo forum have absolutely nothing to do with Gran Turismo. :D

In any case, I think Sony felt it wasn't worth the trouble to market and distribute 2000 copies of a teaser of a game. Someone (you know, the unwashed masses of NFS players) would cry foul over it's pricetag-to-content ratio.
 
Sven
Isn't it fairly obvious how they show us no respect?

As obvious as the steeringwheels in our hands.

Sven
They don't give us any GT Concept, they don't give us Prologue, and now they think they can get away with making a special extra crappy trailer especially for us. I'm not asking them to make a replay; the trailer I liked was ALREADY MADE, is it really too much to ask for them to use that one? EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD GETS BETTER GT SUPPORT THAN THE US & CANADA!

The next time K.Y. pops his head up in public, he should be grilled as to why this is.
Somebody has to know the answer, most of all him.

Cheers,

MasterGT
 
Eagle
You know I couldn't quite decide how to respond to this question so I decided to do the sensible thing - go and read more about what I'm talking about. So I went to Google and searched for Oprah, and indeed could have saved the internet two queries by simply typing www.oprah.com instead. I'm presented with the standard glamourous home page with the bold title "Oprah.com is your leading source for information about love, life, self, relationships, food, home, spirit and health." Doesn't that strike you as pretentious? That someone can just claim to be the source of all this wonderful information? She may draw on professionals and collate numerous different sources but it doesn't instantly make her an authority. Perhaps I'm being harsh and she's just the frontperson for a large collective of individuals attempting to make a positive contribution to humanity. Maybe she should give them some credit then.

So I looked beyond the title to the main chunk of the site. I'm presented with a story about the Olsen twins - I'm sure that'll make for some inciteful and philosophical reading right? It'll have their respective opinions on Zen Buddhism, the Iraq fiasco, maybe their thoughts on OPEC? But then I notice the abstract describes the story as being "Boys, clothes, money—take an inside look into the lives of Mary-Kate and Ashley!" Can you spell superficial? We're meant to care?

Just above that we have a special feature, "Get in shape...". Sounds promising, trying to promote self improvement and facillitating people's ability to do so? Until you read the next line " ...in style! Colorful fleece sweatshirts, a pink terry jog set, t-shirts and more, all in the Oprah Boutique. Shop now to benefit the Angel Network." Look! It's another shameless corporate plug, with superficiality thrown in for good measure! Where do I sign up? The Angel Network? Now they're holier than me too? Here comes that P word again - pretentious.

By now I'm quietly chuckling to myself and wondering what other magic is in store for me. So I click the menu link for the show itself. There's the Olsen story, which I've already covered. Below, we have another story about Paris and Nicky Hilton (I personally thought it was Nicole Ritchey - sp? - but whatever), no doubt another probing expose. Anything else of note? "Meet these brave and bold women" Feminism with your meal anyone?

Perhaps my favourite feature is the forum quote at the bottom of each page - I really delighted in hearing 'soccergrl5's opinion on the Olsen twins. I'll give her this, she said something far more meaningful and well-worded than anything else on the site.

The Spirit and Self section is utter bull**** ripped straight from any number of feel good books every written, with a healthy dose of spiritualist hippy crap. And before anyone tells me I don't know what I'm talking about I dated a spiritualist for a while, I've heard all about meditation, channeling, readings, auras, natal charts and so on. I also really don't care. If this sort of stuff has any positive impact on your life, congratulations, that's great. It doesn't for me so I don't care. It's pretty simple. Features like "Life-Changing Questions" are redundant - apart from the fact most people should simply know most of the crap in there, why do you have to take risks? Who says you have to do anything? I'll tell you who - you, if you're in any control of your life whatsoever. Otherwise, you're just an insecure puppet. "When Life Seems Unfair" - there's a great topic. Seems? Life IS unfair. Get used to it. Stop dreaming of an idealistic paradise and accept that whatever happens happens and make the best of it. We also have the standard promotional "Beauty from the Inside Out", advocating that inner beauty will overcome sheer physical ugliness. Bzzt.

Oprah is another person who attempts to take the living out of life by making light of people's problems and trying to advise others on what they should do. That's all very well and good but we're dealing with people who are generally mindless enough to take whatever is presented on these shows as gospel instead of weighing up the actual facts and making an informed decision for themselves. In effect, they allow their lives to be dictated to them instead of simply living, which I object too quite vehemently.

These shows make heroes and villains out of everyday people for no real reason except to bolster ratings. How many times have we seen "Troubled Teens" be trotted out for us all to marvel at? We're supposed to be surprised by another gothic, or a slut? Who cares? It's mindless garbage. The more we parade these people the more other people behave like them. We wind up with systemic problems in society. Every teenager faces issues - it's just an inherent part of growing up. If people spent more time living life and less time watching crap on Oprah the world would be a better place and I'd have to deal with less people asking about AI, fuel consumption and online play.

So there's my considerably long 2 cents. You want to post about how Oprah makes a positive impact on people's lives and genuinely helps people deal with reality? Go nuts. I believe if you feel your life was genuinely turned around by a talk show host out to make money, you're either really naive, really oblivious or really sad.



oookay....this has nothing to do with us getting gt games, so focus
 
A little back on topic; I hated the music too. It was a pathetic rip-off of "Hot For Teacher" by Van Halen. My 8 year-old son could have done a better job than that. :lol:

The video was just ridiculous. It clearly was added as an after thought.
 
Do you know where we can find and watch this video trailer without buy the game?
 
You live in Europe, so you can either buy Prologue, or download the Prologue intro somewhere, and get essentially the same thing.

PSM probably made the call as to what to include in the movie, and given that most non-GT addicts wouldn't have bothered to search out international copies of Prologue nor download various Prologue movies, it was probably a wise call on their behalf. From the sound of it, it will appeal to the NFS market whose attention span is notoriously short. It's a bit like the Toyota demo - it's not designed to impress real GT players, just to woo the odd sap who sees something shiny.

North America not getting Prologue, that is an insult, no doubt, and I think it's a sad thing.

Sorry for the blatantly off-topic rant, at least some people had a laugh.

I will just say to Lethalchem: Mr. Bean and such shows consist of actors. Jerry Springer, whether staffed by actors or not, passes these people off as being real life people we're meant to relate to or simply be amazed by.
 
Here's another example of a crap thread.
If a thread has no informative content , then it should be removed immediately. I wonder how you gt fans reply to things like this. 👎
 
Because it's yet another thing to discuss until we're all blue in the face and it helps that day when GT4 is actually released move that little closer...

C.
 
What, we're not allowed to simply discuss things?
 
Eagle
I will just say to Lethalchem: Mr. Bean and such shows consist of actors. Jerry Springer, whether staffed by actors or not, passes these people off as being real life people we're meant to relate to or simply be amazed by.

But unless one is a complete moron, one realizes it's all for show, and purely for entertainment purposes.
 
Lethalchem
But unless one is a complete moron, one realizes it's all for show, and purely for entertainment purposes.

Which is why I said:

Eagle
That's all very well and good but we're dealing with people who are generally mindless enough to take whatever is presented on these shows as gospel instead of weighing up the actual facts and making an informed decision for themselves.

The fact is these shows make an effort to look sincere and factual, and people are dumb enough to believe.
 
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