American used car selection

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Sigh, I am frustrated with the overwhelming amount of JDM cars in this game. Finding an American car in the UCD is like finding a needle in a Haystack.

I cycle and cycle the UCD but all I get are a bunch of miata's, Honda s2000's, 3000GT's and a bunch of different RX-7's etc. It is so painstakingly hard to find an American or any other car besides JDM.

Anyone feel the same?
 
I do...Not that I don't like japanese cars but, I do like variety and more often than not there's several of the mentioned cars in the UCD refresh.
 
I feel the same. But since the developers are Japanese, they have always favored Japanese cars over any others in their games, making the majority of the car list Japanese.

There are a ton of variations of the JDM cars, making them outweigh the small amount of American cars and even Euro cars in the UCD.
 
I think developer country does have an influence on car selection. The original Test Drive Unlimited went to the other extreme with regards to Japanese car selection, out of the dozens of cars that shipped with the game, only three cars in total were Japanese, all of them Nissans and two of them 350Zs.
 
Conclusion, there are more better cars in Japan than in USA.
Name brands that USA never shipped outside USA vs brands that they actually shipped outside USA.
Most American car makers are bankrupt right now and is completely unknown to the rest of the world.
 
I think what you've got here is a case of 'be thankful for what you've got'.
As an Australian, the biggest local racing event is the V8 Supercar Championship. This event comprises of Ford vs Holden, which is much like black vs white...... or Coca Cola vs Pepsi. I feel lucky to have 3 Australian cars in the game, but to only have the Ford V8 supercar is a bit of a let-down to those of us who would have liked to run a few thousand Ford V Holden supercar events online.
I've noticed a lot of users on here from the Netherlands, and they only have one car in the game.
At least you folks get a gamestop Nascar DLC, and the choice of entering the GT Academy to pick up another exclusive Academy Special DLC car.
That's twice as much more than we get.
Having said all that..... focussing on what you haven't got only sours the enjoyment of what you already have. Wish in one hand.... but hold a DS3 in the other. :lol:
 
nizmo_bro
I feel the same. But since the developers are Japanese, they have always favored Japanese cars over any others in their games, making the majority of the car list Japanese.

There are a ton of variations of the JDM cars, making them outweigh the small amount of American cars and even Euro cars in the UCD.
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The majority is Japanese but not JDM.

The Eunos Roadster/Mazda Roadster is Japanese and JDM. The Miata is Japanese and USDM. The MX-5 is Japanese and EUDM. Silvia? Japanese & JDM. 240SX? Japanese and USDM.

That's half the point of having all these variations of Japanese cars - they aren't just JDM.
 
Famine
The majority is Japanese but not JDM.

The Eunos Roadster/Mazda Roadster is Japanese and JDM. The Miata is Japanese and USDM. The MX-5 is Japanese and EUDM. Silvia? Japanese & JDM. 240SX? Japanese and USDM.

That's half the point of having all these variations of Japanese cars - they aren't just JDM.
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I'm not sure if I'm making this up, but didn't PD sort of accidentally fabricate some cars that never existed? It seems like they took the car lists from the different regions' GT4 releases and merged them into one game, which is why we have the MX-5, Miata and Eunos Roadster all in one game. By doing that I'm pretty sure they made up a trim level of MX-5 that was only ever found in the Eunos Roadster, or something along those lines. I can't remember if actually I read that somewhere or just thought I did, though.

Still, it would have been nice if PD had included more non-Japanese cars, but the fact is, having played GT since the very first game and following WRC when I was younger, I really, really love Japanese cars, so PD have included almost all my favourite cars as it is. No doubt that the game would have been massively improved if they'd included more EU/US cars to redress the balance.
 
neema_t
I'm not sure if I'm making this up, but didn't PD sort of accidentally fabricate some cars that never existed? It seems like they took the car lists from the different regions' GT4 releases and merged them into one game, which is why we have the MX-5, Miata and Eunos Roadster all in one game. By doing that I'm pretty sure they made up a trim level of MX-5 that was only ever found in the Eunos Roadster, or something along those lines. I can't remember if actually I read that somewhere or just thought I did, though.
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I've written pretty much that exact sentiment before, on this site, so you probably read that :D

Yes, all the trim levels of MX-5 are Eunos Roadster/Mazda Roadster names. Europe and the US did get some similar trim levels - some identical - but with different names. The Eunos Roadster SR Limited, for example, is almost exactly the same bar the wheels as the MX-5 Berkeley (though the Berkeley wasn't available in Chaste White, just Sparkle Green Metallic) and came out at the same time, but Japan didn't get the Berkeley and Europe didn't get the SR Limited - in the game, we just get SR Limited with the different MX-5 nameplates.

You'd need to be an MX-5 geek to notice this.
 
adramire
Sigh, I am frustrated with the overwhelming amount of JDM cars in this game. Finding an American car in the UCD is like finding a needle in a Haystack.

I cycle and cycle the UCD but all I get are a bunch of miata's, Honda s2000's, 3000GT's and a bunch of different RX-7's etc. It is so painstakingly hard to find an American or any other car besides JDM.

Anyone feel the same?
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Its like you were reading my mind. I was just thinking it'd be so nice to DUMP about 100 of the s2000S and RX-7s and replace them with some USA cars. I also wished that in GT4 and 3. :crazy: :scared: :yuck: :sick:
 
So funny that people are still complaining about how there's too many variants of Japanese cars in a Japanese game for car enthusiasts. Some of them are probably unnecessary and Kaz has admitted as much himself.

I see an American car about every second time I've filled the UCD, they're hardly tough to come by. Just because you don't want another 375,000 mile '54 Corvette doesn't mean it wasn't there. The game has historically not had that many, I think it might have had none originally. They didn't add that many new cars, and they had to make all those identical-in-all-but-appearance COTs. That surely limited the number of premium American cars they had time to work on.
 
Famine
The majority is Japanese but not JDM.

The Eunos Roadster/Mazda Roadster is Japanese and JDM. The Miata is Japanese and USDM. The MX-5 is Japanese and EUDM. Silvia? Japanese & JDM. 240SX? Japanese and USDM.

That's half the point of having all these variations of Japanese cars - they aren't just JDM.
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No need to nitpick, I'm sure you understood what I was getting at. :)
 
The terms are not interchangeable as you were using them. Either way about though, your point is incorrect. You get Miatas, 240SXs and even Tiburons (okay, so they're Korean), all of which may be of Eastern origin but which are US market only. Better than that, you even get a Japanese car the Japanese don't get at all and is built in the US - the Toyota Tacoma.

You just need a Sentra and an Altima and you've got a Denny's parking lot.


The reason there's all the alternate versions of the Japanese-origin cars is, in fact, because of JDM/USDM/EUDM differences to start with. GT4 accounted for all of these differences, so those of us in Europe got MX-5s, Japanese gamers got Roadsters and American players got Miatas. For GTPSP, to allow online gaming, they smooshed the car lists from the regions together so a Japanese player in a Roadster could race a European player in his MX-5 and an American in his Miata or any combination thereof - and that car list was the basis of the GT5 car list's standard models.

So there you go. The reason there's three times as many MX-5s, twice as many RX-7s and twice as many Mitsubishi GTOs as there should be is because of PD taking account various regional domestic markets. They've done it a slightly silly way, I'll grant you...
 
You may not get a lot of sympathy on this one as many people took advantage of the OCD a few changes back when the complaint was that it was full of only American cars :D I know I bought them all and have all the American cars I desire...yes there are a few FoMoCo products I dont have by choice 👍

adramire
Sigh, I am frustrated with the overwhelming amount of JDM cars in this game. Finding an American car in the UCD is like finding a needle in a Haystack.

I cycle and cycle the UCD but all I get are a bunch of miata's, Honda s2000's, 3000GT's and a bunch of different RX-7's etc. It is so painstakingly hard to find an American or any other car besides JDM.

Anyone feel the same?
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Famine
The terms are not interchangeable as you were using them. Either way about though, your point is incorrect. You get Miatas, 240SXs and even Tiburons (okay, so they're Korean), all of which may be of Eastern origin but which are US market only. Better than that, you even get a Japanese car the Japanese don't get at all and is built in the US - the Toyota Tacoma.

You just need a Sentra and an Altima and you've got a Denny's parking lot.


The reason there's all the alternate versions of the Japanese-origin cars is, in fact, because of JDM/USDM/EUDM differences to start with. GT4 accounted for all of these differences, so those of us in Europe got MX-5s, Japanese gamers got Roadsters and American players got Miatas. For GTPSP, to allow online gaming, they smooshed the car lists from the regions together so a Japanese player in a Roadster could race a European player in his MX-5 and an American in his Miata or any combination thereof - and that car list was the basis of the GT5 car list's standard models.

So there you go. The reason there's three times as many MX-5s, twice as many RX-7s and twice as many Mitsubishi GTOs as there should be is because of PD taking account various regional domestic markets. They've done it a slightly silly way, I'll grant you...
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The problem is that cars like the 240SX aren't modeled correctly. The real S13 and S14 240SXes look different from Silvias and 180SXes.
 
How do you figure? The S13 240SX is an RPS13 Silvia (200SX in Europe) with a 2.4 non-turbo engine. S14 240SX is an S14 Silvia (200SX in Europe) with a 2.4 non-turbo engine - each had a first generation (Zenki) and a facelift (Kouki). All versions of both were built entirely in Japan. In the same factory.


Nevertheless, as we've pointed out above, for the MX-5/Miata/Eunos Roadster they invented never seen trim levels for the non-Japanese market cars when they cloned across the Japanese market ones and gave them EU/US names.
 
I wish there were more American cars in the game, but there is a pretty good selection. And, in my opinion the 2010 SS Camaro is one of the most versatile, good handling cars in the game.
 
Ecchi-BANZAII!!
Conclusion, there are more better cars in Japan than in USA.
Name brands that USA never shipped outside USA vs brands that they actually shipped outside USA.
Most American car makers are bankrupt right now and is completely unknown to the rest of the world.
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Ford??
 
Ecchi-BANZAII!!
Conclusion, there are more better cars in Japan than in USA.
Name brands that USA never shipped outside USA vs brands that they actually shipped outside USA.
Most American car makers are bankrupt right now and is completely unknown to the rest of the world.
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Ford, General Motors, Chrysler and Doge were all shiped to europe and are selling more and more cars, especially Ford and GM.
In Europe the best selling car brands line up like this:

1. VW Group
2. PSA Group (Peugot and Citroen)
3. Renault
4. GM Group
5. Ford
6. Fiat Group
7. BMW Group
8. Daimler Benz
9. Toyota Group
10. Nissan

worldwide is a bit different:

1. Toyota
2. GM (General Motors)
3. VW (Volkswagen)
4. Ford
5. Honda
6. Nissan
7. PSA Group (Peugot and Citroen)
...

Nothing supports the conclusion, that Japanese cars are "better". Its more likely, that the price drives the sales. Japanese cars rank among the cheapest cars in europe and i guess it will be no different in other parts of the world.
 
keldabest13
Ford??
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I see that you do in fact have the ability to see my avatar.

Let's try this again.
Ecchi-BANZAII!!
Name brands that USA never shipped outside USA vs brands that they actually shipped outside USA.
Most American car makers are bankrupt right now and is completely unknown to the rest of the world.
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Aqua F1
I've yet to find the GT5 F1 car. That series on extreme is the only one avoiding me :guilty:
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HINT: check online dealer ship
 
nohum
Custer85, assuming his sources are legitimate, has already nullified your very poorly written argument.
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Where is it poorly?
Prove to me that the FGT isn't in the OCD or I'll report your sorry ass.

EDIT: I just checked the OCD since I already was in the GT Life.
You're a phony, nobody, arrogant bigot.
Enjoy your horrible week, bad sir.
 
Personally I think that the lack of american cars from all of the cars is quite acceptable. Outside domestic market American cars are not a big hit. And GT5 is for my opinnion not lacking any significant American cars (prove me wrong, because I want learn more about the American cars :p ). @Custer85: Those European sale numbers arent telling all the truth because GM owns Opel and Vauxhall (which arent American companies) which I would say makes a great deal (maybe even more than half) of GM motors sales in Europe. I have to agree though that Ford is respected in Europe. And in the whole worlds sales if it would declude domestic market GM and maybe Ford too would be down quite much. Prove wrong though, I dare you :). E: PS. I wouldnt say that prize would mostly run the sales. Especially in Europe
 
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Don't all the sub-groups of Ford operate essentially as independent companies? Like Ford US, Ford Europe and Ford Australia are essentially three separate entities with the autonomy to run themselves rather than have Ford HQ tell them what to do. I lived in England for 30 years before moving to Canada and the Fords (with the exception of the Focus) are totally different.
 
Im not 100% sure about totally independent companies but yes quite much. And Focus too is made by the Ford Europe or is it Ford UK
 
The Focus used to be, but I think in 2010 they standardized them to be the same on both sides of the pond. I might be wrong, my old mind isn't as sharp as it used to be.
 

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