Another BTR '86 Tune

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For something a little different, I'm not going to present another new variant of a tune that will cure the BTR '86 and Yellowbird handling issues. Rather, I've taken all the tunes already posted and , well averaged them to see if the "regression to the mean" concept works. Now some may say "but, but the tunes were made for specific power and tire combinations, you can't do that..." But I did, and here's what I found:

Front Height = 102
Rear Height = 115

Front Spring = 7.72
Rear Spring = 9.60

Front ext = 5
Rear ext = 5

Front comp = 5
Rear comp = 5

Front roll bar = 5
Rear roll bar = 5

Front camber = 0.9
Rear camber = 0.9

Front toe = -0.06
Rear toe = 0.36

Brake Balance F/R = 6/4

LSD Initial = 15
LSD Accel = 22
LSD Brake = 24

Average Weight Dist = 44/56. Stock 930 Turbo was 37/63 IRL, BTR is 41/59. You can probably get close to 50/50 with ballast but why bother? The idea is to keep some semblance of the character.

Test setup is for a 930 Turbo replica, set for 1340 kg and 450 PP. Test track is Apricot Hill with the Gold Standard lap time of 1:39.0 with Comfort Softs.

First off, a Turbo 930 is a cruddy 450pp car, many other 450 pp cars can meet the time easily, pushing the 930 lower than 1:40 was tough. You can see from the average settings that the general tuning trend is ;

Lower the car, with rear higher than front
Stiffen front springs, soften rear springs
dampers, roll bars average out midpoint, stiffer than stock
Bit of camber f/r
Bit of negative front toe, medium rear toe
Front weighted brakes
LSD roughly low-mid settings.

Tuning does work and do make the car a few seconds better, but...

The upshot is, [drumroll] the average settings don't work too well. I had best times and most consistent control with slightly modified @helseth extreme settings from 16 Jan 14. But, again you can't make a silk purse out of this sow, it has no special capabilities or hidden speed waiting to be unlocked.
 
Me too loves this BTR '86 . I got one 450PP for Big Willow & weight 1260kg. Will try to adjust the weight to 1340kg and try it on Apricot Hill and have fun. Currently use DS3 cos my arm injured in an accident.
 
Just got a laptimes 1:39.901 with my own tunes ( DS3 ~ no drivers aids) & using the 5 speed transmission. As you said is true. This car must be driven skillfully if you want it to be fast as real world. Throttle with care! Lol.

PS: Should be at least 1.5 seconds faster if driven with steering with ABS 1 and using custom gearing cos I'm no good to tune those gear.
 
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Here is my final Yellowbird/BTR '86 tune, works fine for both cars and in fact Yellowbird is better all around from minimum 440PP to 550PP. Not great mind you but a good 550PP car. Needs some attention on long sweeping curves or tight esses/chicanes. This car can reach 205 mph on the Mulsanne (no chicane) or 200mph on the N'ring Dottinger straight, you can probably adjust the final ratio down a bit to get the IRL 211 mph top end for the car.

front - 75, rear 90 height
9.75 / 7.00 f/r springs
6/1 f/r comp
6/1 f/r ext
5/2. f/r arb
0.9/0.9 f/r camber
-0.06/0.80 f/r toe
(Note very high rear toe)
8/5 f/r brake balance
50/50/50 LSD trippin'
66 kg at -50%
44/56 f/r weight.
567 hp, 1216 kg
Transmission fully custom, set for 211 mph with final ration at 3.800
 
I would like to post my tunes if got 1:37 very consistent with 1340kg 450PP. Still learning with this track using ABS off with my DS3.

BTR '86 Lover...
 
1:38.860 but consistent is low 1:39. (DS3 No Drivers Aids) The most important of this car tune with 1340kg for me is the LSD Accelerator and weight distribution. You guys if using ABS 1 and steering should be no problem doing 1:37. Hope some one to do a tune lapping 1:37 or 1:38 very consistent...
 
I used a DS2 with ABS 1, TCS 1, no SRF, really squeezed to get a 1:38.8. Almost any NSX on the other hand set for 450pp can do much better.
 
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I used a DS2 with ABS 1, TCS 1, no SRF, really squeezed to get a 1:38.8. Almost any NSX on the other hand set for 450pp can do much better.

My style is tune & drive without any assist to the end. You can do this also until satisfied then put the assistance. Sure you can drive it more easy.

I only love to drive more classic & hard to have fun. Win or lose doesn't matter. :cheers:
 

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Here is my final Yellowbird/BTR '86 tune, works fine for both cars and in fact Yellowbird is better all around from minimum 440PP to 550PP. Not great mind you but a good 550PP car. Needs some attention on long sweeping curves or tight esses/chicanes.
Used this (with some small changes) for the BTR '86.
Until this, the car was killing me in the Nürburg 24' races, especially in the wet.
I have it on 590PP - still OK.
Thanks.
 
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